Vambo Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Odell Beckham vague on future with Browns amid worst season https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28231590/odell-beckham-vague-future-browns-amid-worst-season "No one knows what the future holds, like tomorrow," Beckham said when asked after Thursday's practice whether he wants to be in Cleveland next year. "I couldn't tell you what's going to happen." "I couldn't sit here and tell you whether I'm going to be here, want to be here, don't want to be here," Beckham said. "This is exactly where I'm at now, and I wouldn't rather be anywhere else." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 He's signed through 2022 or 2023 isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 He is signed till 2024. He and Landry should be here for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, PoeticG said: He's signed through 2022 or 2023 isn't he? it don't matter....other teams can pick up his contract....contracts have looopholes...he could be gone...and who cares...none of this shitty experiment worked anyway.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, PoeticG said: He is signed till 2024. He and Landry should be here for awhile. don't bet on it....really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 We went from having zero receivers to having one of the best dynamic duo in the NFL. These guys are like brothers and once we address the line, good luck covering all our options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, PoeticG said: He's signed through 2022 or 2023 isn't he? there is also a theory that brady will be gone after this season and that him and obj have been in contact...it is definetly swaying in obj being gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 If Freddie's back, OBJ will want out and he won't be timid about asking for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 hours ago, PoeticG said: We went from having zero receivers to having one of the best dynamic duo in the NFL. These guys are like brothers and once we address the line, good luck covering all our options. A dynamic duo that hasn't produced a turd... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, browns52 said: it don't matter....other teams can pick up his contract....contracts have looopholes...he could be gone...and who cares...none of this shitty experiment worked anyway.... A lot of it is on Freddie. His is an imbecile that would rather target fucken Demetrius Harris in the End Zone then a generational talent. Doesn't help that Baker is throwing INTs like Kluber is throwing off speed stuff. The whole situation is quite sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 Adam The Bull tried to make a big deal of OBJ's interview and how he's got no idea of God's plan for his future....and how that supposedly meant that he may want out of Cleveland. But the fact is, he CAN'T know his future. It's not in his control. He didn't want to be traded from NY. But here he is. So, not only does OBJ not know, but NOBODY knows. He's here. Landry is here. Let's keep them here. Let's work on the OL in the offseason. And let's get this offense where it's supposed to be for next year. We finally have a couple of Honest To God wide receivers....they help the running game just by being on the field. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 It's interesting that Jarvis Landry, after two pretty bad seasons(2017 ranks as one of the worst receiving seasons in nfl history imo) has had a nice year so far this year. He's getting down the field more, and his average route run appears to be longer. In 2017 he somewhere managed to turn 160 targets into less than 1000 receiving yards. How does one do that? 2018 was mediocre at best. Then in 2019 he's become a plus player. The question is whether or not 2019 represents something, or whether or he will revert back to 2017 and 2018? Because if this year represents a move towards running routes of more value and more YAC in general, he's ok even at his current contract. But I sense it is more the former, and if so he will be cut whenever that contract means the Browns can get out of it without a cap hit. IIRC it's not this offseason but the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Tacosman said: in 2017 he somewhere managed to turn 160 targets into less than 1000 receiving yards. How does one do that? 2018 was mediocre at best. In 2017 he was in Miami...and did he not have over 100 receptions. And in 2018 he had 80 something catches. That's mediocre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Orion said: In 2017 he was in Miami...and did he not have over 100 receptions. And in 2018 he had 80 something catches. That's mediocre? I'm still trying to figure out why we'd cut him in the case of "the former" which is he continues to play at a "2019 represents" elevated level... 5 hours ago, Tacosman said: The question is whether or not 2019 represents something, or whether or he will revert back to 2017 and 2018? Because if this year represents a move towards running routes of more value and more YAC in general, he's ok even at his current contract. But I sense it is more the former, and if so he will be cut whenever that contract means the Browns can get out of it without a cap hit. IIRC it's not this offseason but the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 OBJ can't go anywhere we don't want to send him. And if he has ideas about acting up to get out, then he needs to ask Antonio Brown how that worked out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 11 hours ago, WarriorsRpussies said: A lot of it is on Freddie. His is an imbecile that would rather target fucken Demetrius Harris in the End Zone then a generational talent. Doesn't help that Baker is throwing INTs like Kluber is throwing off speed stuff. The whole situation is quite sad. Baker is the one targeting the players I'm the redzone. I can promise you the plays aren't just "OBJ don't run a route or try to get open we're gonna throw to Harris and Landry." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 Forget it, he's rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjp28 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 17 hours ago, D Bone said: If Freddie's back, OBJ will want out and he won't be timid about asking for it. Or he'll just use the ABrown strategy and have a hissy fit until he gets cut and will go outside and do a strange dance on video of course which will then go viral and then get a call from Billy B. and the NE scavengers and sign a one year deal but will forget where he's at and do something stupid and get cut and end up unemployed and out of football. Or something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 So far I've been nothing but impressed by his patience and teamwork. He has every right to be frustrated, but I see nothing but incompetent journalists trying their hardest to make a story when their isn't one. Even bad teams with star WRs get their guy the ball...what's the freakin problem? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 13 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: So far I've been nothing but impressed by his patience and teamwork. He has every right to be frustrated, but I see nothing but incompetent journalists trying their hardest to make a story when their isn't one. Even bad teams with star WRs get their guy the ball...what's the freakin problem? it's a nothingburger. "it's a business" he doesn't know. If he says "I never want to leave the Browns" the question will be "does he care about winning?" or something. Just more dumb journalist questions, mary kay cabbage and tony rizzo style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/6/2019 at 5:52 AM, bjh2130 said: Baker is the one targeting the players I'm the redzone. I can promise you the plays aren't just "OBJ don't run a route or try to get open we're gonna throw to Harris and Landry." It's both of them man. Like I said it's fucken sad. Had both of them on fantasy because I thought they would blow the fuck up but and they have costed me dearly (like literal actual money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 You had Harris in Daily Fantasy? What did he cost... six-bits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Hes not the only one vague about future with browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2866030-baker-mayfield-odell-beckham-jrs-injury-wasnt-handled-right-by-browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, D Bone said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2866030-baker-mayfield-odell-beckham-jrs-injury-wasnt-handled-right-by-browns I didn't hear that Glazer report. That's very interesting to me. I don't fully believe it because he and Jarvis are so tight and I really think Jarvis loves it here. It would be a slap in the face to his best friend. When OBJ is on the field he's giving 100% blocking for teammates and is legitimately happy when teammates score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 ... plus winning helps. Meanwhile I have to wonder how many more passes Baker gets when he speaks even a little out of turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: ... plus winning helps. Meanwhile I have to wonder how many more passes Baker gets when he speaks even a little out of turn. I was 100% OK with his immediate quote on live TV after the Myles Meltdown, but he has got to learn to not be quite so honest regarding other players and their business........... "I don't know about any of that, and that's between _____________ and the team" will serve him well as a leader in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/baker-mayfield-rips-browns-handling-of-odell-beckham-jrs-injury-then-says-hes-sorry-233339866.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 This team has a ton of soul-searching to do this offseason. And growing up to do, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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