mjp28 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 WEEK 13 - BROWNS and NFL injury reports and news, THU, SUN, MON games CLE an early 1 point favorite. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas Get ready for a great weekend of football and the Thanksgiving holiday ! In the AFCN Sunday SF at Baltimore -4.5, the NY Jets at Cincinnati +3.5 and CLEVELAND -1 at Pittsburgh. Enjoy your turkey leftovers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 And the MNF and Thanksgiving Day games. NFL SPREAD 11/25 8:15 PM 275 Baltimore 276 L.A. Rams 49u-10 PK -10 -3½ -05 47u-10 -3½ EV 47u-10 -3 -30 46½u-10 -3 -20 46½u-10 -3½ -10 47u-10 -3 -25 46½u-10 -3½ -10 47u-10 -3½ EV 47u-10 Picks 11/28 12:30 PM 305 Chicago 306 Detroit 41u-10 -1½ -10 -1 -10 39u-10 -1 -10 39u-10 -1 -10 39½u-10 39u-10 PK -10 -1 -10 39u-10 -1½ -10 41u-10 11/28 4:30 PM 307 Buffalo 308 Dallas 45u-10 -7 -10 45u-10 -7 -10 45u-10 -7 -10 45u-10 -7 -10 45u-10 -7 -15 44½u-10 -7 -10 45u-10 -7 -10 11/28 8:20 PM 309 New Orleans 310 Atlanta -5½ -10 48u-10 -6½ -10 50u-10 -7 -10 49½u-10 -6½ -10 49½u-10 -6½ -10 50u-10 -6½ -10 50u-10 -6½ -10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 MONDAY EARLY AM REPORT, so who's going to be ready for the big game Sunday? Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Eric Murray S Nov 24 Out Olivier Vernon DE Nov 24 Out Taywan Taylor WR Nov 24 Out Kendall Lamm OT Nov 24 Out Robert Jackson CB Nov 24 Out Drew Forbes OT Nov 24 Out Pharaoh Brown TE Nov 24 Out Pittsburgh Steelers NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Artie Burns CB Nov 24 Out Burns (knee) is officially inactive for Sunday's contest against the Bengals, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 24 Out Tuzar Skipper LB Nov 24 Out Chukwuma Okorafor OT Nov 24 Out Zach Gentry TE Nov 24 Out Paxton Lynch QB Nov 24 Out James Conner RB Nov 24 Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 A couple of things... On another thread, someone gave the line as Pittsburgh being favored by 1.5 points. So WTF is up with that? Also...are you saying that they are saying that Vernon will be out for this upcoming game vs. the Steelers? If so.....can anyone tell us WTF is wrong with that guy? I mean, did he barf up a lung or what? (courtesy of Ferris Buehler) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Gipper said: A couple of things... On another thread, someone gave the line as Pittsburgh being favored by 1.5 points. So WTF is up with that? If you look at the first line that is the opening line and Pittsburgh was a 3 point favorite things changed after Sunday's game. The second line is the consensus or basically an average of several sportsbooks where Cleveland is a 1 point favorite. Look closer and you'll see here where the line varies from pick (even) to CLE -2. Fun with numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, mjp28 said: If you look at the first line that is the opening line and Pittsburgh was a 3 point favorite things changed after Sunday's game. The second line is the consensus or basically an average of several sportsbooks where Cleveland is a 1 point favorite. Look closer and you'll see here where the line varies from pick (even) to CLE -2. Fun with numbers. What you are saying is that you have listed several sports books, all of whom show different lines for the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 hours ago, The Gipper said: A couple of things... On another thread, someone gave the line as Pittsburgh being favored by 1.5 points. So WTF is up with that? Also...are you saying that they are saying that Vernon will be out for this upcoming game vs. the Steelers? If so.....can anyone tell us WTF is wrong with that guy? I mean, did he barf up a lung or what? (courtesy of Ferris Buehler) He was “very close” last Monday. Whatever that means. it is knee thing so you never know. JuJu and Artie Burns potentially being out would be huge for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 MONDAY AFTERNOON REPORT, a little update. Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Olivier Vernon DE Nov 25 Out Coach Freddie Kitchens called Vernon (knee) day-to-day on Monday, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Eric Murray S Nov 25 Out Pittsburgh Steelers NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT James Conner RB Nov 25 Out Conner (shoulder) -- who sat out Week 12 action -- remains iffy for this Sunday's game against the Browns, Dale Lolley of DKPittsburghSports.com reports. JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 25 Out The Steelers are hopeful that Smith-Schuster (concussion/knee) will be available for Sunday's game against the Browns, Dale Lolley of DKPittsburghSports.com reports. Artie Burns CB Nov 25 Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, mjp28 said: MONDAY AFTERNOON REPORT, a little update. Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Olivier Vernon DE Nov 25 Out Coach Freddie Kitchens called Vernon (knee) day-to-day on Monday, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Eric Murray S Nov 25 Out Pittsburgh Steelers NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT James Conner RB Nov 25 Out Conner (shoulder) -- who sat out Week 12 action -- remains iffy for this Sunday's game against the Browns, Dale Lolley of DKPittsburghSports.com reports. JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 25 Out The Steelers are hopeful that Smith-Schuster (concussion/knee) will be available for Sunday's game against the Browns, Dale Lolley of DKPittsburghSports.com reports. Artie Burns CB Nov 25 Out So....Njoku fully on board to play? Or have they even activated him? Edit: Per the Browns roster on their website, he is still on the "reserve, designated to return" list. Also...they have not taken Ogunobi off the suspended list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 I get the feeling they knew that the Dolphins game should be one where Olivier could get another week of rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 5:19 PM, The Gipper said: So....Njoku fully on board to play? Or have they even activated him? Edit: Per the Browns roster on their website, he is still on the "reserve, designated to return" list. Also...they have not taken Ogunobi off the suspended list. Rule 1) after a gameday..Ignore all injury reports (most are from prior week & same) .. Cause no team has to report them till Wednesday's/Thursday's/Friday's.. Monday's players check in with their boo-boo needs & major injuries (following mri or X-rays) can be reported but not official till listed on report Wednesday Rule 2) Ogun nor any player can practice till league lifts suspension..Teams may then need to release any replacement added (DT Brandin Bryant brought up from PS last week).. Njoku-- Teams trying to add players from IR or FA's try to do this before close of NFL business day Friday's..I've also seen PS guys (RB Elijah McQuire) added on a Saturday after final practice & play that Sunday.. Njoku can practice up to 3 weeks from 11-20-19 to determine his IR status..deadline date 12-11-19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 Look who is creeping up as a good playoff bet. ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/19/20) Team Odds New England Patriots 21/20 <--- almost 1/1 even money Baltimore Ravens * *2/1 hmmmm Kansas City Chiefs 9/2 <--- almost 5/1 Houston Texans 15/1 Oakland Raiders 30/1 Buffalo Bills 40/1 Cleveland Browns 50/1 Indianapolis Colts 50/1 Pittsburgh Steelers 50/1 Tennessee Titans 50/1 Jacksonville Jaguars 250/1 Los Angeles Chargers 250/1 New York Jets 500/1 Denver Broncos 5000/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 TUESDAY 11 AM REPORT, a quick look. Injuries are a big part of football especially this time of year. Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Olivier Vernon DE Nov 26 Questionable Eric Murray S Nov 26 Questionable Pittsburgh Steelers NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Artie Burns CB Nov 26 Questionable JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 26 Questionable James Conner RB Nov 26 Questionable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, mjp28 said: TUESDAY 11 AM REPORT, a quick look. Injuries are a big part of football especially this time of year. Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Olivier Vernon DE Nov 26 Questionable Eric Murray S Nov 26 Questionable Pittsburgh Steelers NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Artie Burns CB Nov 26 Questionable JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 26 Questionable James Conner RB Nov 26 Questionable Key will be if Ju-ju and Conner can play. If they don't the Browns chances of winning go up dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, mjp28 said: WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON REPORT, now the OT is questionable? Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Greg Robinson OT Nov 27 Questionable Olivier Vernon DE Nov 26 Questionable Eric Murray S Nov 26 Questionable Concussion protocol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 WEDNESDAY LATE PM REPORT, a few more names. Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Olivier Vernon DE Nov 27 Questionable Vernon (knee) was a limited participant in Wednesday's practice, Andrew Gribble of the Browns' official site reports. Odell Beckham Jr. WR Nov 27 Questionable Beckham (groin) was limited at Wednesday's practice, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. Joe Schobert LB Nov 27 Questionable Eric Murray S Nov 27 Questionable Murray (knee) has yet to return to practice since undergoing surgery Nov. 1, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Greg Robinson OT Nov 27 Questionable Robinson was placed on concussion protocol Wednesday, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 7 hours ago, hoorta said: Concussion protocol. We have some talented skill position players....but we need decent OLine play in order to utilize them. We need all hands on deck. Robinson may not be all that great, but they keep going back to him after trying somebody else so he's probably the best we've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 On 11/26/2019 at 8:23 AM, hoorta said: Key will be if Ju-ju and Conner can play. If they don't the Browns chances of winning go up dramatically. Conner looked awful when he tried to play a few weeks ago. I can’t imagine him getting better even if he suits up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 In the FYI department: Cleveland at Pittsburgh – The Browns beat the Steelers, 21-7, in Week 11. The Steelers are 7-1-1 SU, 4-5 ATS during the past nine meetings versus the Browns. San Francisco at Baltimore – The 49ers beat the Ravens, 25-20, at home in 2015. New York Jets at Cincinnati – The Bengals squeaked past the Jets, 23-22, on the road in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 And BTW CLEVELAND is an early 10.5 point favorite at home vs Cincinnati next week. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas Baltimore a 6.5 point favorite at Buffalo -and-. Pittsburgh a 1.5 point underdog at woeful Arizona all next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 10 hours ago, mjp28 said: And BTW CLEVELAND is an early 10.5 point favorite at home vs Cincinnati next week. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas Baltimore a 6.5 point favorite at Buffalo -and-. Pittsburgh a 1.5 point underdog at woeful Arizona all next week. And Buffalo just knocked off the Cowboys in Dallas...... good luck next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, mjp28 said: And Buffalo just knocked off the Cowboys in Dallas...... good luck next week! The Bills winning doesn't help the Browns playoff chances at all. You can just about pencil them in as the #5 seed. So much for "America's Team". They suck..... Mixed emotions that the Bills won, but I'm sure glad the Cowboys lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 My heart desperately wants to predict a winner but my brain isn't having it. Brain keeps saying we're in deep shit and this game, this exact game at Pittsburgh, with the season on the line, with a chance for the sweep, and everything else this game means to our fans and players...is going to be a disaster. I THINK this is my brain's way of not knowing what to do when we have the better team. When WE'RE the team who won 3 in a row. When WE won the previous game and shut them the freak down. A friend of mine told me you never bet with your heart, and I'm certain that's sound advice, but this week my brain can kiss my ass and I FULLY expect a dominating performance that will leave the Steelers' fans crying on the tits of their mothers. Send these assholes HOME for the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Per NFLN tonight Ju-Ju OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 SATURDAY AM REPORT Cleveland Browns NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Greg Robinson OT Nov 29 Questionable Robinson (concussion) is questionable for Sunday's game against the Steelers, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. KhaDarel Hodge WR Nov 29 Questionable Hodge (Achilles) is listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Steelers, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journalh reports. Olivier Vernon DE Nov 29 Questionable Vernon (knee) is listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Dolphins, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. Eric Murray S Nov 29 Out Murray (knee) is ruled out for Sunday's game against the Dolphins, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. Pittsburgh Steelers NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Artie Burns CB Nov 29 Questionable Burns (knee) is questionable for Sunday's game against the Browns, Missi Matthews of the Steelers' official site reports. James Conner RB Nov 29 Doubtful The Steelers list Conner (shoulder) as doubtful for Sunday's game against the Browns, Missi Matthews of the Steelers' official site reports. JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 29 Out The Steelers have ruled Smith-Schuster (knee) out for Sunday's game against the Browns, Brian Batko of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 First week Lamm is not on the injury report. If Robby is ruled out, expect the Lamm Chop. If Njoku is playing they will make a roster move today. I'm thinking Vernon goes ... Zombo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 ONE MAN'S OPINION CLE-PIT II Past history versus the here and now. What are the two differences between Joe turkey Jones and Myles Garrett ? 1. Joe had a cool nickname. 2. Joe got away with it, dumb Myles didn't. Speaking of the dearly departed Myles Garrett is a premier pass rusher, who might be the most valuable player on Cleveland’s defense. But the Browns don’t need the suspended Garrett to beat the Steelers a second time in three weeks. The Browns have their swagger reeling off three straight victories, including defeating the Steelers, 21-7, two weeks ago when Garrett drew a season-long suspension after ripping off the helmet of Mason Rudolph and hitting the quarterback in the head with it. Baker Mayfield is playing his best ball, with an eight-to-one touchdown-to-interception ratio in his past four games. Mayfield has plenty of firepower with Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. The Steelers don’t have an adequate backup quarterback for Ben Roethlisberger. Neither Rudolph, nor third-stringer Delvin Hodges are the answer. The Steelers are likely down their two best skill position players, too, with wide receiver JuJu Smith-Shuster dealing with a concussion and James Connor bothered by a shoulder injury. Pittsburgh also is without suspended center Maurkice Pouncey another week. The BROWNS are 2 point favorites, O/U 39 and will be double digit favorites next week. SO what to do? EASY PART II, take the BROWNS -2 and they should put up enough points to go OVER 39 for a bit and sit back and watch a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Robinson ruled out. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Zombo said: Robinson ruled out. Z 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 DAMMIT. LOL My heart still says we're winning. My brain keeps flashing humongous warning signs. Now Randall is out too? Jesus guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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