mjp28 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 WEEK 2 - BROWNS injury report and weekly updates.......and make that daily updates if necessary. ESPN Tuesday AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Hubbard is still a huge liability, but hopefully it'll get cleaned up (save injury) Monday night. I don't want to get into the weeds, but of the 5 sacks I believe 4 were after Robinson was a moron and Lamm/Forbes also went out. Tough hill to climb with that level of injury. Big one is Higgins-it was apparent that dude brings a lot of value to the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Yup... we need the Higster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 I just saw that Mayfield was practicing without a wrap on his wrist and looked fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 7 hours ago, jrb12711 said: Hubbard is still a huge liability, but hopefully it'll get cleaned up (save injury) Monday night. I don't want to get into the weeds, but of the 5 sacks I believe 4 were after Robinson was a moron and Lamm/Forbes also went out. Tough hill to climb with that level of injury. Big one is Higgins-it was apparent that dude brings a lot of value to the squad. Hmmmm.... could it be for MNF the Browns aren't going to keep Corbett and wazhisname on the inactive list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 ESPN Injuries Tuesday PM Cleveland Browns Injuries Sep 10 Kendall Lamm StatusOut Head coach Freddie Kitchens said Lamm will miss an unspecified amount of time with a knee injury, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Adarius Taylor StatusQuestionable Taylor is dealing with a high-ankle sprain, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. Damarious Randall StatusQuestionable Randall missed practice because he's dealing with an illness, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. Rashard Higgins StatusQuestionable Higgins (ankle) said after Tuesday's practice that he expects to play in the Browns' Week 2 game versus the Jets, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Demetrius Harris StatusQuestionable Harris (shoulder) was spotted at Tuesday's practice, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Dontrell Hilliard StatusQuestionable Hilliard (concussion) isn't participating in Tuesday's practice, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Baker Mayfield StatusQuestionable Mayfield was spotted throwing Tuesday at the Browns' practice session and wasn't sporting any protection on his bruised right wrist, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. Sione Takitaki StatusQuestionable questionable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 15 hours ago, hoorta said: Hmmmm.... could it be for MNF the Browns aren't going to keep Corbett and wazhisname on the inactive list? With Lamm out, it's definitely a possible. We traded some non-insignificant pieces for Wyatt Teller who was I believe a healthy scratch from week one (maybe based on limited practice time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Baker Mayfield is going to be on this list very soon unless we figure things out with our tackles. I thought we lost Baker for the season on that safety...I really did. To be somewhat fair, Baker held onto the ball WAY too long for much of the game, and on that safety he had no business getting sacked. He HAD to know the pressure was coming, so it's either throw it out of bounds, or fire the ball to the dump off. Baker did that at least 4 times where he held onto the ball for way too long, and when you do that, you're going to get holding penalties, sacks, and potentially fumbles. We don't get this fixed and our year will be over before it starts. And by the way, if you guys thought the Titans brought pressure, just wait and see what Gregg Williams does on Monday night. Baker might literally die...like for real. I can already hear Browns fans screaming to run a screen pass, but the Browns are literally the worst team in the universe at running screens, yet we ALWAYS get beat by them. Heck, if Dion Lewis doesn't drop the first one, he would've scored, too. If we're going to win, it's going to be because our defense scores and keeps the ball game low scoring in general. I don't see us scoring more than 17 points, and we're not getting that unless we get lucky on defense with a pick-6 or fumble recovery. I think we have gigantic problems on the OL, and we're not going to be able to run, we're not going to take deep shots cuz no time, and Baker is going to be scared for his life, just like he was when Hue was the coach. I sure hope we win...because if we don't...our season is literally over. It totally sucks to say that, but that's pretty much how it goes in the NFL. We're playing a team that should've won their first game, so you KNOW they're going to be as desperate as us. Also, Gregg Williams didn't get the coaching job with us, and he's going to be pissed. He's probably working 60 hour days trying to figure out what to do, and Gregg has been known to put together a helluva game plan every now and then. He's going to know Baker, he's going to know our offense, and he's going to have his defense ready for us. I think we're in deep shit, but I'm really hoping we pull it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Hey, at least we're not as bad as the Bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: Hey, at least we're not as bad as the Bears For a goober like me, that was a very interesting breakdown on how some plays are run from various formations, and what the QB should be looking for as the play develops. Have to wonder if I seriously overrated Mitch coming out of college. It will be a hoot if it turns out according to the all knowing Ghoolster we should have taken Trubisky instead of Garrett, and Mitch follows the career track of Paxton Lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, hoorta said: For a goober like me, that was a very interesting breakdown on how some plays are run from various formations, and what the QB should be looking for as the play develops. Have to wonder if I seriously overrated Mitch coming out of college. It will be a hoot if it turns out according to the all knowing Ghoolster we should have taken Trubisky instead of Garrett, and Mitch follows the career track of Paxton Lynch. The NFL still comes down to a QB being able to stand in the pocket, read defenses and get the ball out quickly to the right guy. QBs who cannot do that eventually get exposed, regardless of how physically talented they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted September 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: The NFL still comes down to a QB being able to stand in the pocket, read defenses and get the ball out quickly to the right guy. QBs who cannot do that eventually get exposed, regardless of how physically talented they are. Why so many Heisman quarterbacks don't make it in the NFL, great scrambling or big gun guys who can handle college defenses -but- can't handle the rigors of life in the professional game. Current guys like Man-zel, Mariota, RG III, and maybe Winston or Bradford. Or oldies like Tebow, Weurfel, Leinart, Ware and remember Spurrier? But they are all over the the broadcast landscape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 hours ago, hoorta said: For a goober like me, that was a very interesting breakdown on how some plays are run from various formations, and what the QB should be looking for as the play develops. Have to wonder if I seriously overrated Mitch coming out of college. It will be a hoot if it turns out according to the all knowing Ghoolster we should have taken Trubisky instead of Garrett, and Mitch follows the career track of Paxton Lynch. Well to be fair to Trubisky he has already accomplished far more than Paxton lynch ever did. Not that he has done much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Well to be fair to Trubisky he has already accomplished far more than Paxton lynch ever did. Not that he has done much. I'm not going to go so far to say Trubisky will be on a downhill track. The Bears won a Super Bowl with Jim McMahon, and no one would consider him a great QB by any stretch of the imagination. Mitch was drafted #2 overall, and with that comes some mighty high expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, mjp28 said: Why so many Heisman quarterbacks don't make it in the NFL, great scrambling or big gun guys who can handle college defenses -but- can't handle the rigors of life in the professional game. Current guys like Man-zel, Mariota, RG III, and maybe Winston or Bradford. Or oldies like Tebow, Weurfel, Leinart, Ware and remember Spurrier? But they are all over the the broadcast landscape. Watched a little of the TNF game, and to say the least Winston's career stats to date aren't what you'd expect out of a #1 overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 hours ago, hoorta said: I'm not going to go so far to say Trubisky will be on a downhill track. The Bears won a Super Bowl with Jim McMahon, and no one would consider him a great QB by any stretch of the imagination. Mitch was drafted #2 overall, and with that comes some mighty high expectations. What I have seen of Trubisky are thrown up for grabs far too often... Thats a dangerous way to live... There are quick flashes but then... Thats just about it... He plays scared... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Big year for Mitch... has to prove himself this year and so far he hasn't. The physical tools are there. The Head? Not so much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Big year for Mitch... has to prove himself this year and so far he hasn't. The physical tools are there. The Head? Not so much... It's almost like drafting a QB that high with all of a dozen college starts, and then immediately starting him in the NFL, is a recipe for long-term mediocre results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: It's almost like drafting a QB that high with all of a dozen college starts, and then immediately starting him in the NFL, is a recipe for long-term mediocre results. True in most, but not all, cases... Just did a post on the WSU, Senior QB over in the college section. He impressed the shit outta me last nite and he's starting for the first time this season. Good size.... good mobility... strong enough arm... goes thru progressions... and has the quickest release I've seen since Marino. Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career Washington State 99 127 78.0 1341 10.6 11.4 12 3 193.1 *2017 Washington State Pac-12 SO QB *2018 Washington State Pac-12 JR QB 2 3 5 60.0 17 3.4 -5.6 0 1 48.6 2019 Washington State Pac-12 SR QB 3 96 122 78.7 1324 10.9 12.1 12 2 199.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: Good size.... good mobility... strong enough arm... goes thru progressions... and has the quickest release I've seen since Marino. Wait ... what? Some guy that has started two games at Washington State has the quickest release since Marino?? Were you seeing if we were paying attention? Quicker than Tom Brady? Cause he's pretty quick. Peyton Manning, hell, Baker Mayfield has an awesome quick release. But some dude at Wash St. Is quicker than all of them? Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Randall is out, in concussion protocol. I was just reflecting on that hit that Baker took last week on the safety.. I feel like we really dodged a bullet. Looked like a shoulder injury when seeing the replay. If it wasn’t for the PA, he would’ve seen Hilliard open for a quick pass out of the back field. He also should have the awareness to be looking to that short route first. Which he didn’t. He looked away at something developing down the field. you can see the play at the 2:30 https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/titans-vs-browns-highlights-week-1 Hopefully the reads are cleaned up moving forward. With that being said I hope there is a ground game this week, and a set with a fullback in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, Zombo said: Wait ... what? Some guy that has started two games at Washington State has the quickest release since Marino?? Were you seeing if we were paying attention? Quicker than Tom Brady? Cause he's pretty quick. Peyton Manning, hell, Baker Mayfield has an awesome quick release. But some dude at Wash St. Is quicker than all of them? Z I could be wrong, but I think Zombo was somewhat incredulous about Tour's claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Zombo said: But some dude at Wash St. Is quicker than all of them? Check out the two throws cued up and get back to me... Ball goes from breast plate to back shoulder to gone... effortlessly. Same whether set (play #1) or on the move under pressure (play #2) which means it's innate/baked-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: cue up some Offensive lineman and get back to me... fixed ..Yearly update...am starting with the 2 ox's at left & right tackle at Iowa 👀..damm lighting delay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: Randall is out, in concussion protocol. Did GW send his Cleveland connection hitman in🥊? How do you end up with a concussion & hand injury overnight? the timing just seems really weird ..next man up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, gumby73 said: Did GW send his Cleveland connection hitman in🥊? How do you end up with a concussion & hand injury overnight? the timing just seems really weird ..next man up Haha maybe they didn’t realize his illness was concussion related. We have some nice options with Murray and Redwine 🍷 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Check out the two throws cued up and get back to me... Ball goes from breast plate to back shoulder to gone... effortlessly. Same whether set (play #1) or on the move under pressure (play #2) which means it's innate/baked-in. Looked like a Phillip Rivers_type shotput approach, with a short loading time and then powerful release. Nobody does it like Danny: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 hours ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: Haha maybe they didn’t realize his illness was concussion related. We have some nice options with Murray and Redwine 🍷 Same thing happened with Garrett one year. Concussion out of nowhere. He'll be fine, I don't think he has a history of concussions, so I'm not worried. Also, if there's game to miss, this is probably the one. The funny thing about being a Browns fan is you're so worried about the worst scenario, always thinking of how you can lose the next game. But I have to say, we're GOING to win this game, and I would bet on it. Our defensive coordinator put together a terrific plan save for too much blitzing, and the Titans were READY for it. That's not going to happen again. If we continue to blitz recklessly, we WILL be in trouble because if you think Derrick Henry is talented at catching screen passes, you don't want to see Bell. We don't need to send the farm after Simien. Instead, MAKE him beat your coverage. MAKE him throw those abominable horizontal screen passes to the WR. Suffocate him with DBs and see if he can fit the pill into narrow windows. If he can, then we adjust, but I don't see it happening. Offensively, we need to take advantage of Mosley being out. Njoku should have a huge day, and Baker REALLY needs to take what is available and not press. Nickel and dime them to death, take the calculated deep shots. Win...the...game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Zombo said: Looked like a Phillip Rivers_type shotput approach, with a short loading time and then powerful release. Nobody does it like Danny: I don't see Rivers, but agree about Marino... ... and I accept your apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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