LogicIsForSquares Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-today-yield-curve-inversion-triggers-recession-fears-2019-8-1028446749 Interested to see how this shakes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Exactly what the left wants. Nothing else they've tried could take Trump down. An economic collapse would be the ticket. The more fake warnings of a recession the left put out there the more the people believe there will be one. I clearly remember talking about this same shit under Bush. Highways crowded by people going to work, restaurant parking lots full, etc..and they were crying about a recession. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Desperate times......desperate measures. They need to create chaos before they are all arrested. I’m hoping Trump is a few steps ahead of this latest tactic. Amazing what this president has gone through in order to make America great again..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 China production and exports have dropped the last 13 months. Germany economy has also slowed a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Gorka said: Exactly what the left wants. Nothing else they've tried could take Trump down. An economic collapse would be the ticket. The more fake warnings of a recession the left put out there the more the people believe there will be one. Well at least Bill 'Reilly has a lot of faith in tRump and does not believe any of this fake recession news. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!😂 From today's Newsmax.com A Special Message From BILL O'REILLY Dear Fellow American, Some experts say a recession could be on the way. With all the turbulence in the world, it's important to consider putting a portion of what you have earned into an asset that is historically safe, Gold & Silver. That's why I have partnered with the Hartford Gold Group, a company I trust, to get you started with a Free U.S Minted Silver Coin. No purchase necessary, to claim your free coin, simply CLICK HERE You have worked hard over the years to save for your retirement, that's why I'm asking you to contact the Hartford Gold Group and consider investing in Gold and Silver as a safe haven for your retirement. Only 100 Free Coins Available no purchase necessary, to claim: CLICK HERE Thank you, Bill O'Reilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 and then, for some legit explanation about why knee jerking/blaming Pres Trump is just ignorant: U.S. Stocks Stabilize on Strong Retail Sales Data - WSJ https://www.wsj.com › Markets › U.S. Markets 2 hours ago - “The market is looking at warning signals, but it's not yet fully convinced that we're in danger of a global recession or a major downturn,” he said ... ************************************ https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-global-order-crumbles-risks-of-recession-grow-11565784000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Much like a QB, President received too much credit and will get too much blame. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Gorka said: Exactly what the left wants. Nothing else they've tried could take Trump down. An economic collapse would be the ticket. The more fake warnings of a recession the left put out there the more the people believe there will be one. I clearly remember talking about this same shit under Bush. Highways crowded by people going to work, restaurant parking lots full, etc..and they were crying about a recession. To be fair, the stock market did crash in 2008 on Bush's watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 yep, but the fed has a whole lot of responsibility for yanking our economy around with high and low rates. at weird times. https://www.macrotrends.net/2015/fed-funds-rate-historical-chart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Unless you are a total dolt, you aren't assigning blame for the inversion on a politician. Presidents are given too much credit good and bad for the economy. That said, inversions are a sign of future recessions. Hoping it isn't true this go around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 its amazing how so msny of u boobs still dont get that our economy is a "work". Tbe highs and lows are all orchestrated now. The rich who are in onbthe script, get out and go short on everything and make a killkng doing so. We get left with a bsg if shit while the rich make billions off a recession. Its a ponzi scheme and we're the base for it...the "marks" if u will. Its a giant con. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jbluhm86 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 1:46 PM, LogicIsForSquares said: Unless you are a total dolt, you aren't assigning blame for the inversion on a politician. Presidents are given too much credit good and bad for the economy. That said, inversions are a sign of future recessions. Hoping it isn't true this go around. True, but when you hitch your presidency so closely to how well the economy is performing, as Trump has, then it's fair game to blame Trump and his policies when the economy takes a downturn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 And then you have those with TDS who are rooting for a recession: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/09/maher_im_hoping_for_a_crashing_economy_so_we_can_get_rid_of_trump_bring_on_the_recession.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 true, but Pres Trump's policies like cutting bureaucratic red tape everywhere, ending conflicts and tremendous amount of expense to try to comply, saves companies hugely. And, cutting taxes and being more corp friendly is great for OUR economy. That is Pres Trump. The global recession would affect us, but that isn't Pres Trump's doing or undoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 3.7% Unemployment More Jobs than people to fill them. Is that how Recessions work ? I always thought (as do the "Experts") that Unemployment was a leading indicator. JAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'm surprised they aren't hoping for a nuclear war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, JAFBF said: 3.7% Unemployment More Jobs than people to fill them. Is that how Recessions work ? I always thought (as do the "Experts") that Unemployment was a leading indicator. JAG The problem with using unemployment as indicator for or against is that the feds play too many games with the unemployment rate numbers. If you give up on trying to find employment or if you weasel your way into a govt check (the WV method) you are no longer included in the unemployment numbers. So it is hard to get a good read on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said: The problem with using unemployment as indicator for or against is that the feds play too many games with the unemployment rate numbers. If you give up on trying to find employment or if you weasel your way into a govt check (the WV method) you are no longer included in the unemployment numbers. So it is hard to get a good read on it. Totally agree on this. I believe this is one reason POTUS uses the same metrics as previous Admins so as to disarm the "manipulating numbers" accusations. Look at Labor Participation numbers (number of workers in work force), a much more reliable reflection of actuality - currently the highest it has been in many years (maybe ever, don't have exact stats handy). There is another round of Tax cuts coming, and we haven't even done the Infrastructure Bill yet (HUGE). We could see 5%+ GDP easily with these. China ? POTUS just threw them a Bone on the "Christmas Season" coming up spiel, they're Toast, this was just giving them a "save Face" exit strategy. Seriously, Companies are exiting China and they're not going back, plus they're devaluing their own Currency = bad times if they don't do something. (Our) Farmers and China ? Pork. They have a huge issue issue with a certain Swine Virus, their Herds are going to be decimated. China needs our Pork and more, or they're going to have serious issues - look at Hong Kong. Have you noticed that POTUS has said he's not really in any hurry to make a deal with China right now ? Now you know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 If you like the president, and the economy does well, it is because of the president If you like the president, and the economy does poorly, it is not because of the president rinse and repeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: If you like the president, and the economy does well, it is because of the president If you like the president, and the economy does poorly, it is not because of the president rinse and repeat It depends on the Presidential Policies and the support he has for those Policies. The last several Administrations were focused on moving us to a Globalist position (the last one extremely so). The Kumbaya vision of World cooperation they try to sell the people actually just boils down to a handful of Dictators controlling different Regions of the World. People as individuals can be smart. As a Collective they are dumb, stupid, animals (MIB truth). Why do you think they try so hard to divide us ? O was the worst at division that has come down the line in a long long time, and he is a Fraud (and so it will be proven). The Economy is a complex animal, there are some big changes coming that I haven't sorted out myself how they will impact the average Joe. The Fed is going to be restructured at the minimum, which will mean an end to depreciation of Dollars through unlimited printing of Dollars (invisible Inflation). Lot of changes coming that we just need to see how they play out one by one as they come online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 12:01 PM, tiamat63 said: Much like a QB, President received too much credit and will get too much blame. But at least when it takes a dip they all of a sudden STFU about how this is the fruits of Obammys economy. But we're going to have a recession sooner or later just depends on who is by the empty chair when the Music Stops. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 18 hours ago, MLD Woody said: If you like the president, and the economy does well, it is because of the president If you like the president, and the economy does poorly, it is not because of the president rinse and repeat I'm 28 and I know eveythin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: I'm 28 and I know eveythin. Oh you're older than me then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 All these kids were older then than you are now, woodpecker. and they knew so much about life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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