MLD Woody Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 You're take the lowest denominator rap music and assuming it's all like that. It isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Eric Reid blasts singer: 'When has Jay-Z ever taken a knee?' AOL.COM 1 hr ago Jay-Z’s partnership with the NFL has been under fire basically since it was announced. A partnership between the rap mogul’s Roc Nation Sports and the NFL to manage the league’s entertainment and social justice ventures faced a number of uncomfortable questions once it emerged that Colin Kaepernick, who Jay-Z has supported against the NFL in the past, was not involved. Jay-Z had reportedly gone so far as to lobby Travis Scott to drop out of the Super Bowl halftime show over the NFL’s treatment of Kaepernick. Now, he’s associating himself with the league more than Scott ever did and going so far as to declare the movement for change is “past kneeling.” Jay-Z also reportedly claimed he spoke to Kaepernick about the deal, which Kaepernick’s girlfriend said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Fuck em all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 hours ago, htownbrown said: Well digging is associated with painstaking labor, but to each their own. I'm not throwing left of center at you as an insult in this context. Entertainment is a reflection of what the people demanding it want. To say entertainment has no reality based influence on people is silly. Didn't you want to "Be Like Mike"? I did. Did you buy a Baker jersey yet? Music has an even bigger influence and audience. Rap culture has had a huge impact on society. The same with rock n roll. I could argue that music made more hippies than the war did. I'm sure if there was a rap song about pedophilia you would be disgusted. Why that changes for equally disgusting topics is......I don't know, you tell me. It's still too prevalent to avoid. To find good music any more, digging is worth it. Out of these you're bound to find something you like. If not, then god help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 On this one I have to side with Woody and Tia. It all really is a matter of taste, there's absolutely no way to rate anything by quality or art. Because art is in the mind of the beholder. And quality is 95% created in the studio. Whether it's The Wrecking Crew or today's hip hop producers. The artists are almost interchangeable except for a tiny fraction. Do I personally hate this shit? No doubt. But that's why other Generations love it. A big part of rock and roll is offending not just your parents but your older brothers. Music , it's like the bagpipes the Scots used to go into battle with. kind of an audio flag to mark your Generations territory. The Old Guard isn't supposed to love it even though many things will become part of the musical lexicon history in time. From Vaudeville 2 Benny Goodman 2 Sinatra to Elvis to the Kingston Trio to to Frankie Avalon to Dylan to The Beatles to Hendrix to the doors, KC and the Sunshine Band, Motorhead, Metallica,Zep Punk grunge rap hippity hop actually the list goes on forever. So even though I Revere some and despised some at the end of the day I have to admit that if a kid is wearing a set of headphones and Sweet Child O Mine is truly moving him then how is it any less valid than Beethoven's 9th? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I forget who it was but a comedian said this... The only thing that makes me happy about rap is that when Snoop Doggy Dogg's kids turn 14 they will have to find some kind of music shitty enough to even piss him off. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 At no point did I pick music to listen to based on what would piss off my parents .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: At no point did I pick music to listen to based on what would piss off my parents .... Maybe not consciously. But let's try a little self-awareness like you always urge others to. Just a few posts back you delighted in sticking it in the eye of the Boomers that there would be a rap halftime. Not because I assume you have anything against the who or Paul McCartney or whoever just as an act of hostility against that generation, because it gets under their skin. I don't expect you to admit it. We asserted ourselves, our generation, with long hair and weird clothing. WSS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: At no point did I pick music to listen to based on what would piss off my parents .... Rebel without a cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Donald J. Trump 45 mins · The Failing New York Times, in one of the most devastating portrayals of bad journalism in history, got caught by a leaker that they are shifting from their Phony Russian Collusion Narrative (the Mueller Report & his testimony were a total disaster), to a Racism Witch Hunt. ”Journalism” has reached a new low in the history of our Country. It is nothing more than an evil propaganda machine for the Democrat Party. The reporting is so false, biased and evil that it has now become a very sick joke...But the public is aware! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 11 hours ago, tiamat63 said: To find good music any more, digging is worth it. Out of these you're bound to find something you like. If not, then god help you. Monotone repetitious chanting with a rhythmic beat... it's just as easy to flip it and say that if anyone needs God's help it's you. The only artistic value in rap is story telling/poetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Maybe not consciously. But let's try a little self-awareness like you always urge others to. Just a few posts back you delighted in sticking it in the eye of the Boomers that there would be a rap halftime. Not because I assume you have anything against the who or Paul McCartney or whoever just as an act of hostility against that generation, because it gets under their skin. I don't expect you to admit it. We asserted ourselves, our generation, with long hair and weird clothing. WSS The bolded was something in my line of thinking after reading your previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I mean.... I listen to the Beatles.... But I like rap. At no point was I thinking "yeah! Rebel!" My comment was more just to say it would be more music that I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: Rebel without a cause. That would require someone to rebel first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, tiamat63 said: The bolded was something in my line of thinking after reading your previous post. True enough. But you do see the link between generational rebellion and style and music right? And Woody just to be clear there is no genre of music that I universally despised, yes there are things in rap and hip-hop that I find interesting. That being said I probably more familiar with how old what more forms of music then you are. If for no other reason I've done this for a living for 50 years. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: True enough. But you do see the link between generational rebellion and style and music right? And Woody just to be clear there is no genre of music that I universally despised, yes there are things in rap and hip-hop that I find interesting. That being said I probably more familiar with how old what more forms of music then you are. If for no other reason I've done this for a living for 50 years. WSS Ok? I'm not saying you don't. I'm just saying the music I choose to listen to was never influenced by some desire to rebel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Found an old one of Woody rapping in Strongsville HS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Heres Cal secretly liking rap: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Fuuuuuck.... Was watching Parks and Rec, forgot about this line. Reminded me of this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 11:08 AM, DieHardBrownsFan said: Heres Cal secretly liking rap: I'm sure the drive thru at the Wendy's he works at is the swaggiest for shizzle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 no, no, no. I'm not cool like that old guy. I was more the guy who played the beatles at 78 rpm because it sounded like the 3 chipmunks. and beach boys music on my eight track. and "Jeremiah was a bullfrog". I always liked country music, far more a while back, than now, for the most part. this is GREAT MUSIC: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Cysko Kid Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: no, no, no. I'm not cool like that old guy. I was more the guy who played the beatles at 78 rpm because it sounded like the 3 chipmunks. and beach boys music on my eight track. and "Jeremiah was a bullfrog". I always liked country music, far more a while back, than now, for the most part. this is GREAT MUSIC: Country and rap are both lowest common denominator music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 music, to me, should tell a story. I don't have any use for rap. Just a lot of feigned? anger in rap. telling a story is art. blabbing repetitive nonsense lyrics can be funny, but still, not anything enjoyable, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: music, to me, should tell a story. I don't have any use for rap. Just a lot of feigned? anger in rap. telling a story is art. blabbing repetitive nonsense lyrics can be funny, but still, not anything enjoyable, imho. You want rap that tells a story? That's easy. They're just shit stories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Cal listened to two raps songs and determined all of rap is angry and the songs don't tell stories ... Smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, MLD Woody said: Cal listened to two raps songs and determined all of rap is angry and the songs don't tell stories ... Smh another ignorant putdown? I was in the AF. for months, I was in an all black office. Listened to rap most of the time. you should know by now you don't know much about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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