Ohio Rep. Candice Keller: Drag queen advocates, gays to blame for mass shootings

[OldBrownsFan]

Just now, Clevfan4life said:

as potus he's held to a diff standard...period. U ALL FUCKING MADE THAT ASSESSMENT FOR OBAMA.

no rule changes, sorry. 

It's another slippery slope when you start assessing blame to someone else other than the person responsible. I see it more often come from the left but both sides do it. It is a good thing to tone down rhetoric but the hypocrisy of the left is crazy when they say the worst things possible about this president and then whine about how "mean" one of his tweets are.

[Gorka]

4 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said:

theres a rational link...not a direct one, but his langusge is clearly being parrotted to the crazies.

You know better. It's a tad more than just his language being parroted. It's his language being parroted as its being spun into something racist..and there is a rational link to what she said except that you have to be able to critically think to see it.

[MLD Woody]

You all just don't get it

Her statements are for the crazy minority. They DON'T get you reelected because they aren't shared by the majority. There's no "RINO" conspiracy or whatever. You just have dying, outdated views that our society has learned to reject for being insane

 

[calfoxwc]

[Clevfan4life]

5 minutes ago, Gorka said:

and there is a rational link to what she said except that you have to be able to critically think to see it.

there most cerrainly is not. No one has destroyed tge family unit for the last umpteen centuries more than heterosexual people. And i know this for the immutable fact that it is because only heterosexual people have partaken in the family unit. End of discussion. 

And u all know this to be true but u dont undrrstand why its happened so lets blame the fagsNdykes......and now the trans people. If only tgey didnt exist we'd all be millionares sporting ruler cocks with smokeshow wives. The ignorance will never end with u people.

[Gorka]

4 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

What a stupid, pathetic bitch.

 

Anything to not blame guns I guess 

Haha, oh the irony!

Blaming guns is stupid and pathetic there Woody.

 

[MLD Woody]

You actually need a complete LACK of critical thinking to believe what she says

You need to be the type of person that thinks a man can survive in a whale or that demons influence people to believe her reasoning

[jbluhm86]

57 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said:

It's another slippery slope when you start assessing blame to someone else other than the person responsible. I see it more often come from the left but both sides do it. It is a good thing to tone down rhetoric but the hypocrisy of the left is crazy when they say the worst things possible about this president and then whine about how "mean" one of his tweets are.

 

1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

it's obaMao's fault, MORE blood on his sick hands...

Well OBF, now's your chance to stick to your guns about assessing "blame to someone else other than the person responsible". Cal said the shooting is Obama's fault. Let's see if you tell him if he's wrong or not. 

[Clevfan4life]

5 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said:

 Let's see if you tell him if he's wrong or not. 

[jbluhm86]

1 hour ago, OldBrownsFan said:

Just as rational as the left blaming Trump for the El Paso shooting..it goes both ways.

Or blaming Obama for people shooting cops, but it seems that rationality was left on the shelf by several members on this board for that one. Don't seem to remember you calling those members out for that either.

[Clevfan4life]

oh look at the filthy shameless yeasted out HOOWUUR trying to backtrack...

"Keller told the Dayton Daily News that she posted something to her private Facebook page and that the statement "sounded like part of her posting but she couldn't be sure if it had been altered." CNN has reached out to Keller for comment."

 

watch the fish try to squirm now......god what a disgrace. I know for one im done giving a nanofuck about anything the stupid liberals like aoc say cause aint nothin that low. She's scum of the earth. 

[OldBrownsFan]

6 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said:

Or blaming Obama for people shooting cops, but it seems that rationality was left on the shelf by several members on this board for that one. Don't seem to remember you calling those members out for that either.

I think I posted that both sides use the blame game. Yes I am positive of it. Because I said both sides do it I have no doubt if I look back on some of my posts I probably have done it myself. I might try to watch that in the future though...maybe.

[OldBrownsFan]

14 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said:

oh look at the filthy shameless yeasted out HOOWUUR trying to backtrack...

"Keller told the Dayton Daily News that she posted something to her private Facebook page and that the statement "sounded like part of her posting but she couldn't be sure if it had been altered." CNN has reached out to Keller for comment."

 

watch the fish try to squirm now......god what a disgrace. I know for one im done giving a nanofuck about anything the stupid liberals like aoc say cause aint nothin that low. She's scum of the earth. 

The country is in a moral decline  freefall which is the point I saw her making. And she is right. She should have stuck to her guns. "Scum of the earth"..really?...kinda being a drama queen aren't you Cleve?

[jbluhm86]

16 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said:

I think I posted that both sides use the blame game. Yes I am positive of it. Because I said both sides do it I have no doubt if I look back on some of my posts I probably have done it myself. I might try to watch that in the future though...maybe.

Still waiting for your answer:

1 hour ago, jbluhm86 said:

Well OBF, now's your chance to stick to your guns about assessing "blame to someone else other than the person responsible". Cal said the shooting is Obama's fault. Let's see if you tell him if he's wrong or not. 

 

[OldBrownsFan]

11 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said:

Still waiting for your answer:

 

Keep waiting .. if I challenge what anyone says on the board it will be because I decide to do it. 

[jbluhm86]

15 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said:

Keep waiting .. if I challenge what anyone says on the board it will be because I decide to do it. 

That's what I thought. The whole "slippery slope when you start assessing blame to someone else other than the person responsible" seems to work for you only when you're referring to those with whom you politically disagree with, but when it's Cal or other right wingers saying that myself and other liberals have blood on our hands because we voted for Obama, something about that statement suddenly brings out your inner coward.

"Rules for thee yet not for me, I suppose".

[OldBrownsFan]

2 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said:

That's what I thought. The whole "slippery slope when you start assessing blame to someone else other than the person responsible" seems to work for you only when you're referring to those with whom you politically disagree with, but when it's Cal or other right wingers saying that myself and other liberals have blood on our hands because we voted for Obama, something about that statement suddenly brings out your inner coward.

"Rules for thee yet not for me, I suppose".

If you read what I posted I said both sides do it. I said I likely have done it myself ...get a grip Jbluhm this is just a  political message board. I will give you a clue. I'm biased...there I admit it..

[jbluhm86]

6 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said:

If you read what I posted I said both sides do it. I said I likely have done it myself ...get a grip Jbluhm this is just a  political message board. I will give you a clue. I'm biased...there I admit it..

You can tack "hypocrite" on there too. You talk about "slippery slopes" and get outraged when people suggest that Trump's rhetoric against illegal immigrants may have at least played a role in shaping the views of the El Paso shooter, yet when Cal literally says Obama voters have the blood of the Dayton victims on their hands, your response is to simply shrug and say "meh, I'm biased". 

[OldBrownsFan]

I understand what Candace Keller was trying to say, Mike Huckabee says something similar here but better:

'It's our cultural fault': Mike Huckabee pinpoints spiritual crisis behind mass shootings

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/its-our-cultural-fault-mike-huckabee-pinpoints-spiritual-crisis-behind-mass-shootings

 

[jbluhm86]

Maybe Mike Huckabee can pray really hard and resurrect Jerry Falwell so that they both can blame 9/11 on the gays together too, while Huckabee's at it.

[OldBrownsFan]

12 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said:

You can tack "hypocrite" on there too. You talk about "slippery slopes" and get outraged when people suggest that Trump's rhetoric against illegal immigrants may have at least played a role in shaping the views of the El Paso shooter, yet when Cal literally says Obama voters have the blood of the Dayton victims on their hands, your response is to simply shrug and say "meh, I'm biased". 

If you have something to say to Cal then say it. I will speak for myself and I stated what I believe and that is we need to be cautious in trying to blame others for what someone else did. That is something that I am going to try to do myself. I'm sure I missed it in the past and have fallen into the trap of playing the blame game. I'm biased in the sense I usually post presenting my side of an argument. I don't feel the need to make both sides of an argument because that is "your" job on the other side. I'm pitching my side and I don't claim to be fair and neutral like the lying mainstream media.

[OldBrownsFan]

15 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said:

Maybe Mike Huckabee can pray really hard and resurrect Jerry Falwell so that they both can blame 9/11 on the gays together too, while Huckabee's at it.

Huckabee said, "I don’t remember anybody blaming Bill Clinton, her husband, or Barack Obama. We had mass shootings when they were presidents. It is not a president’s fault, whether it’s Trump, Obama, or George W. Bush."

And Huckabee is right.

[OldBrownsFan]

 

[Clevfan4life]

Just now, OldBrownsFan said:

If you have something to say to Cal then say it. I will speak for myself and I stated what I believe and that is we need to be cautious in trying to blame others for what someone else did. That is something that I am going to try to do myself. I'm sure I missed it in the past and have fallen into the trap of playing the blame game. I'm biased in the sense I usually post presenting my side of an argument. I don't feel the need to make both sides of an argument because that is "your" job on the other side. I'm pitching my side and I don't claim to be fair and neutral like the lying mainstream media.

jesus Christ you muppet, nobody had any doubts about your bias. That's not news. What J was trying to get from you is an acknowledgement your double standard. He provided citation of it too...and you balked cause you really can't say nothin, he got you pegged clean. He took you out back to the woodshed and beat you like a govt mule. Im sick and fucking tired of the rampant hypocrisy exhibited by conservatives not just here but seemingly everywhere. But here, where we routinely criticize liberals when they go off the reservation....you all just simply can't bring yourselves to stop shilling. It's pretty damning that none of you can just say this stupid irrelevant little woman spoke nonsense. It wasn't even asking you to criticize your pauper of a king lord Donald.....your pack mentality has made you utterly stupifylingly ignorant. 

[Clevfan4life]

5 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said:

Huckabee said, "I don’t remember anybody blaming Bill Clinton, her husband, or Barack Obama. We had mass shootings when they were presidents. It is not a president’s fault, whether it’s Trump, Obama, or George W. Bush."

And Huckabee is right.

So none of you blamed Obama for violence against cops after he said Trayvon looks like he could have been my kid? You wanna backtrack that one?

[Clevfan4life]

and the reason nobody of any real merit blamed Clinton or Obama for mass shootings is because they didn't stoke racial hatred on a near daily basis. Simply because they're base wouldn't put up with it. Conservatives tho, this is their "thing". I've plainly stated im not sure if Trump himself is all that racist because being a racist means you have some kind of principle in mind, which I don't believe he has a single principle in his entire ethos. But he absolutely knows who his base is. And he plays them and these are the consequences. 

[OldBrownsFan]

Just now, Clevfan4life said:

jesus Christ you muppet, nobody had any doubts about your bias. That's not news. What J was trying to get from you is an acknowledgement your double standard. He provided citation of it too...and you balked cause you really can't say nothin, he got you pegged clean. He took you out back to the woodshed and beat you like a govt mule. Im sick and fucking tired of the rampant hypocrisy exhibited by conservatives not just here but seemingly everywhere. But here, where we routinely criticize liberals when they go off the reservation....you all just simply can't bring yourselves to stop shilling. It's pretty damning that none of you can just say this stupid irrelevant little woman spoke nonsense. It wasn't even asking you to criticize your pauper of a king lord Donald.....your pack mentality has made you utterly stupifylingly ignorant. 

The woman was speaking about the moral decline of the nation and  she is right about that. If you want to blame Trump for mass shootings then placing blame on the moral decline of the country makes at least as much sense as blaming Trump. 

Also If you want to pit something I said against what Cal said go for it but I'm not a puppet dancing to your tune. 

[OldBrownsFan]

 

18 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said:

and the reason nobody of any real merit blamed Clinton or Obama for mass shootings is because they didn't stoke racial hatred on a near daily basis. Simply because they're base wouldn't put up with it. Conservatives tho, this is their "thing". I've plainly stated im not sure if Trump himself is all that racist because being a racist means you have some kind of principle in mind, which I don't believe he has a single principle in his entire ethos. But he absolutely knows who his base is. And he plays them and these are the consequences. 

Obama just had a racist and race baiter named Al Sharpton as an adviser at the White House. That would be comparable to Trump having David Duke as an adviser. 

 

[calfoxwc]

I have pointed out obamao's "discipline policy". His policy has helped hs kids do stuff and get a light rap on the knuckles, then right back to school they go.

I have pointed out that this dayton murderer kept a rape list, and a kill list. and he was suspended, but went right back to school.

because of obamao's lenient policy. So, jblu - do you really think obamao's lenient policy didn't get this kid a hard look at stopping him ahead of time? He and others showed a lot of dangerous signs. One lady - cheerleader, was told by police she was on the rape list.

and the dangerous eventual murderer was simply allowed to go back to school. Look at all the signs the Parkland murderer showed.

Please - grow out of your arrogant ignorance and discuss some facts, here.

Speaking of facts - the Dayton murderer was a big bernie sanders/socialist supporter. Odd, I didn't know that. Not one of you lefties said one thing about it. But you gloated like all heck about the other Texas murderer, who you could spout off about being a "white nationalist". He was a mental case. And the study of these murderers includes mental illness, trauma as a child, etc etc.

  Read, jblu.

Dayton, Ohio, shooter Connor Betts kept a "hit list" and "rape list ...

https://www.cbsnews.com/.../dayton-shooting-hit-list-rape-list-bellbrook-high-school-...

6 hours ago - Dayton, Ohio — High school classmates of the gunman who killed nine people early Sunday in Dayton, Ohio, claim he was suspended for ...

[calfoxwc]

so jblu, you going to condemn the leftist corrupt hate rhetoric by the left? put up or just be a hypocrite.

Dayton shooting: Shooter appeared to have leftist Twitter feed - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

2 hours ago - A Twitter account that appears to belong to Dayton mass shooter Connor Betts ... Classmates: Dayton gunman had 'kill list' in high school.