OldBrownsFan Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: not one who licked Trumps ass to get an appointment he wasnt qualified for. I'm just guessing but I don't think a neurosurgeon goes begging for jobs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: I'm just guessing but I don't think a neurosurgeon goes begging for jobs. He might if he wants into the political arena I'd beg the browns for a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: He might if he wants into the political arena I'd beg the browns for a job You could be the bench woodpecker.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: You could be the bench woodpecker.😂 Haha LOL yeah, woodpecker is the butt of the forum, may as well be the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gorka Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: not one who licked Trumps ass to get an appointment he wasnt qualified for. Sigh. Your affliction with mythomania much more severe than Trumps. That was full blown re traded there Clevis. Carson wasn't looking for a cabinet position, secondly he decline the offer by citing not having experience. Later he was offered the HUD and decided to take it. Any complaints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, Vambo said: that is one of the funniest dumbass quotes I've ever read. LOL LOL She surely is an arrogant twit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, Vambo said: And I thought “Deep Thoughts” by Jack Handy were stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Vambo said: Her answer as to why some Americans cant find America on maps. Woulda made a fine fuckable democrat politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Vambo said: She actually said that? Start making some sense lady. No wonder the Green New deal is feasible to her. We're going to have jets that can fly on solar energy soon. Um, NOT!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, hoorta said: She actually said that? Start making some sense lady. No wonder the Green New deal is feasible to her. We're going to have jets that can fly on solar energy soon. Um, NOT!!! Chakrabarti had an unexpected disclosure. “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal,” he said, “is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.” Ricketts greeted this startling notion with an attentive poker face. “Do you guys think of it as a climate thing?” Chakrabarti continued. “Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Nobody has to yell racist. It’s a given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob806 Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 8:23 PM, calfoxwc said: you might want to consider it, Bob. I know government employee unions resent his work on that subject, but a lot of Americans support it. He IS right, you know. Appeals court rules for Trump in fight over federal worker restrictions ... https://thehill.com/.../453352-appeals-court-rules-for-trump-in-fight-over-federal-wor... 5 hours ago - A federal appeals court handed President Trump a legal victory Tuesday when it ruled against labor unions representing government workers ... Opinion | The Unions That Like Trump - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/08/opinion/sunday/the-unions-that-like-trump.html Apr 8, 2017 - Construction trade unions see salvation; government workers and teachers are appalled. ... President Trump speaking to officials from the building trades .... the number of Carrier jobs in Indiana that he had helped to save. The thing with me on unions is simply the Collective Bargaining issue. A fundamental part of our economy is negotiating deals. It happens daily in many industries/professions. So all unions really want is a chance to go to a bargaining meeting with their employer. Republicans are against this issue. It doesn't make any sense (to me, anyway). I negotiated 5 contracts during my time as Union President. Just getting to the table, and talking, doesn't guarantee a damn thing (on either side). It does, however,help in understanding why an issue may or may not pass and get implemented into a contract. Without that bargaining right, management is free to dictate whatever they want, however they want. If the Rs ever embrace Collective Bargaining I could vote for a few of them. Until that happens, nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 https://www.vox.com/2019/7/17/20698684/trump-send-them-back-ilhan-omar-greenville-north-carolina-rally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TexasAg1969 Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: https://www.vox.com/2019/7/17/20698684/trump-send-them-back-ilhan-omar-greenville-north-carolina-rally I wonder how a rally in Lordstown would go over these days with all those laid off Trump supporting workers for GM he said would keep their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: I wonder how a rally in Lordstown would go over these days with all those laid off Trump supporting workers for GM he said would keep their jobs. You better believe that there wouldn’t be a parking spot available in that whole Lordstown facility. You really need to open your eyes and realize Trump is Making America Great Again. (I’m somewhat impressed you managed a post without the word spurs in it......that is a very dated slur against our POTUS) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bigbambo Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, Bob806 said: The thing with me on unions is simply the Collective Bargaining issue. A fundamental part of our economy is negotiating deals. It happens daily in many industries/professions. So all unions really want is a chance to go to a bargaining meeting with their employer. Republicans are against this issue. It doesn't make any sense (to me, anyway). I negotiated 5 contracts during my time as Union President. Just getting to the table, and talking, doesn't guarantee a damn thing (on either side). It does, however,help in understanding why an issue may or may not pass and get implemented into a contract. Without that bargaining right, management is free to dictate whatever they want, however they want. If the Rs ever embrace Collective Bargaining I could vote for a few of them. Until that happens, nope. As a former union president I believe most of what you state. But, I'm sure you know the heart of the union is just as greedy and corrupt as the swamp. If you stand for the nutty dems you'll play imaginary union local 202 representing brothers & sisters in china. Clean up the International and businesses would welcome representation! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bob806 said: The thing with me on unions is simply the Collective Bargaining issue. A fundamental part of our economy is negotiating deals. It happens daily in many industries/professions. So all unions really want is a chance to go to a bargaining meeting with their employer. Republicans are against this issue. It doesn't make any sense (to me, anyway). I negotiated 5 contracts during my time as Union President. Just getting to the table, and talking, doesn't guarantee a damn thing (on either side). It does, however,help in understanding why an issue may or may not pass and get implemented into a contract. Without that bargaining right, management is free to dictate whatever they want, however they want. If the Rs ever embrace Collective Bargaining I could vote for a few of them. Until that happens, nope. Don't forget Bob, it was Bill Clinton and a dem controlled Congress that fast tracked NAFTA in the '90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: Don't forget Bob, it was Bill Clinton and a dem controlled Congress that fast tracked NAFTA in the '90's. I haven't or will not forget. I give Trump credit for trying to reverse it, stymie it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just scream racism again a little bit louder! WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 especially amid reportsthat Trump views making racist attacks on Democratic women of color as a way to drive up turnout among white grievance voters, and thus as a key part of his reelection strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: especially amid reportsthat Trump views making racist attacks on Democratic women of color as a way to drive up turnout among white grievance voters, and thus as a key part of his reelection strategy. 😂 You should put racism in all caps. It would be much more effective. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bob806 said: The thing with me on unions is simply the Collective Bargaining issue. A fundamental part of our economy is negotiating deals. It happens daily in many industries/professions. So all unions really want is a chance to go to a bargaining meeting with their employer. Republicans are against this issue. It doesn't make any sense (to me, anyway). I negotiated 5 contracts during my time as Union President. Just getting to the table, and talking, doesn't guarantee a damn thing (on either side). It does, however,help in understanding why an issue may or may not pass and get implemented into a contract. Without that bargaining right, management is free to dictate whatever they want, however they want. If the Rs ever embrace Collective Bargaining I could vote for a few of them. Until that happens, nope. I understand, Bob, I am a big pro union guy - far more back in the earlier days. I do have a problem with your negotiating part, especially on gov employee unions negotiating. I remember the reason I enlisted into the Air Force, was because Goodrich shut down, and there were a couple thousand people looking for every job that might come available, and my Dad's plant in another company was going to be going on a huge, very nasty strike. that, btw, is after I was permanently 2A, unable to be drafted, determined during the draft process in 1970. Unions, like the air traffic controllers can NOT be allowed to strike. If they do, when they don't get every single "negotiating point" granted, a lot of people could die. etc. They should have NO leverage to negotiate with, regardless of the legitimacy of their complaint/request. NOTE: there should be hell to pay if a gov union is not treated properly/fairly - gov execs should lose their positions, whatever. You need to differentiate between gov employee unions, and private sector unions. Gov employee unions cannot be allowed to strike, as in the air traffic controllers. Fed air marshals. Yes, firemen, etc etc etc. Even social security - homeland security, irs.....Bob, am I missing something here? You help pay taxes to pay the salaries of government management, and you pay the taxes to pay government employees. A gov union is you helping you "negotiate" against yourself. I find great fault in you not voting for any rep until they give you the power to negotiate in a gov employee union. You'd sent your country further towards socialism, crime, illegal immigration, etc etc etc, further into the gigantic, dangerous national debt... ...because your union can't have the power to strike if their negotiations aren't working in your favor? Just my goofy opinion - gov employee unions should never have been allowed. Unions end up being political PAC's pretty quickly, based on their own greed and desire for more power. My opinion, since if you do have gov unions, I'd say their purpose should be, to elect a board, of their own choosing, that they can go to, to fight for fairness and negotiate with whoever, for funding. If whoever in the gov doesn't listen, the board would have the right to take their case to Congress, who had better listen or they lose a lot of votes. If you think air traffic controllers should have had the right to strike/walk out... let me know, and I'll just be shocked. I don't think you mean that - it's just your all in support seems to not take that into consideration. Gov unions have no business being a union able to strike, and the gov, our gov, should not be held hostage by gov employee unions. Granted, not being treated fairly is any union's strength. But take it from a former boss while I was employed as a consultant - he was salary then, but "grew up" in the big tire company in the union. He told me back in tho early days, the company would never have given them the decent wages and good insurance, the wonderful lives they deserved, if they didn't have the union in tough negotiations with the company. But later on, years later, he came to see that the unions kept raking in big dues, and kept raising their huge salaries. And live was awesome. There was never any need for the union. Except the union kept creating little extravagances to fight about, trying to justify their existence. And the demands started to shut the company down more and more. It closed the manufacturing at the plant. He ended up having zero respect for the union. I get it. As a kid, I went to a big strike - the company wanted to take back some benefit, and it was really wrong for them to try. So, we sat around having hotdogs, donuts, pop, iced tea in front of the entrance gate. By "we" it was about 20 guys, including my Dad, and me. The company realized they couldn't get away with an unfair demand, and relented. But that is a private company. A government employee union - has far too serious a leverage over the "management". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Browns149 said: Nobody has to yell racist. It’s a given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, bigbambo said: As a former union president I believe most of what you state. But, I'm sure you know the heart of the union is just as greedy and corrupt as the swamp. If you stand for the nutty dems you'll play imaginary union local 202 representing brothers & sisters in china. Clean up the International and businesses would welcome representation! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 It’s so refreshing to see a POTUS stand up for the USA!!!! Hes saying what everyone wants to say but would be accused of “racism” from the fake Americans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: especially amid reportsthat Trump views making racist attacks on Democratic women of color as a way to drive up turnout among white grievance voters, and thus as a key part of his reelection strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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