LogicIsForSquares Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Nice to see so many socialists in one thread. Any other industries the government should be swooping in to over regulate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: 🖕 now THAT is CLASSY! giving woodpecker the bird ! ROF,L ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Nice to see so many socialists in one thread. Any other industries the government should be swooping in to over regulate? protecting freedom and rights. The gov has to protect our Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 I tacitly agree with Woody because Facebook is a privately-owned Enterprise and can probably do what they want, but here's a question. Is there a point at which an organization that dispenses news Etc should be held to a higher standard of fairness or honesty? I don't really have an answer for that, just curious. Do any of the news Outlets or cable news stations have any kind of responsibility? Not exactly the same but at some point Q-tip and Kleenex needed to specify brand cotton swab or tissue. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 you all just need to quit fb.....i essentially have and im a lefty leaner. FB is hot garbage but in my case i recignize moee precisely WHY they're a stinking pile of privacy infringing fgts. If they were a co servative leaning entity you all would be in favor of mandatory fb profiles for all citizens as well as mandstory minimums spent there a week.....im not joking btw, i honestly beleive that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 hours ago, calfoxwc said: protecting freedom and rights. The gov has to protect our Constitution. Yes, comrade, the government should always tell private businesses how to run their businesses. It is for the greater good of the Soviet Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Westside Steve said: I tacitly agree with Woody because Facebook is a privately-owned Enterprise and can probably do what they want, but here's a question. Is there a point at which an organization that dispenses news Etc should be held to a higher standard of fairness or honesty? I don't really have an answer for that, just curious. Do any of the news Outlets or cable news stations have any kind of responsibility? Not exactly the same but at some point Q-tip and Kleenex needed to specify brand cotton swab or tissue. WSS They are all private entities whose goal is just to sell ad space and news comes second. I don’t like it but I don’t want government swooping in to tell them how to operate unlike some of the commissar upset with Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted July 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: They are all private entities whose goal is just to sell ad space and news comes second. I don’t like it but I don’t want government swooping in to tell them how to operate unlike some of the commissar upset with Facebook. There is a way to do this without government intervention and that would be to set up an ombudsman group to handle complaints and make FB more transparent and answerable to consumers. It is not just conservatives who question FB decisions on what they censor but liberal groups as well. Facebook Needs a Public Editor https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qkjzzp/facebook-needs-a-public-editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: There is a way to do this without government intervention and that would be to set up an ombudsman group to handle complaints and make FB more transparent and answerable to consumers. It is not just conservatives who question FB decisions on what they censor but liberal groups as well. Facebook Needs a Public Editor https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qkjzzp/facebook-needs-a-public-editor This just shows a cross section where some conservatives and some liberals both agree on the government moving in to regulate what is essentially a luxury. No one needs Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 no one needs facebook, but it is used so much, that it can dishonestly manipulate an election with how they make conservatives have no voice. I don't see a problem with everybody having free speech, and that free speech should apply to everybody. If it doesn't, then the media gets way, way too powerful in society and can do some damage to elections, reputations of public officials, social movements... we will see - but once a private company gets international, and can control social media output to their own ends... I can see a good reason for government to step in if they have to. Let's say somebody is on social media - and you and your family and business or political reputation is slandered badly. You try to explain that it is not true. But, the social media favors the attackers, so they let it continue, and censor any attempt to get the truth out, by anyone who knows the truth, etc.... It's a new line. With the freedom to control a social media, comes with responsibility. to be fair. Not to become a social political weapon against society, or parts of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said: They are all private entities whose goal is just to sell ad space and news comes second. I don’t like it but I don’t want government swooping in to tell them how to operate unlike some of the commissar upset with Facebook. Of course so is the New York Times. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 hours ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Yes, comrade, the government should always tell private businesses how to run their businesses. It is for the greater good of the Soviet Union. Next they're going to want to government to regulate what people can and can't do with their bodies ..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 9 hours ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Yes, comrade, the government should always tell private businesses how to run their businesses. It is for the greater good of the Soviet Union. You must be referring to Obamacare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: You must be referring to Obamacare That fits the bill, comrade. Yet I didn’t recall the same support from the Browns Board commissar then as we do now for taking over a luxury item for the good of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 hours ago, calfoxwc said: no one needs facebook, but it is used so much, that it can dishonestly manipulate an election with how they make conservatives have no voice. I don't see a problem with everybody having free speech, and that free speech should apply to everybody. If it doesn't, then the media gets way, way too powerful in society and can do some damage to elections, reputations of public officials, social movements... we will see - but once a private company gets international, and can control social media output to their own ends... I can see a good reason for government to step in if they have to. Let's say somebody is on social media - and you and your family and business or political reputation is slandered badly. You try to explain that it is not true. But, the social media favors the attackers, so they let it continue, and censor any attempt to get the truth out, by anyone who knows the truth, etc.... It's a new line. With the freedom to control a social media, comes with responsibility. to be fair. Not to become a social political weapon against society, or parts of it. If the information is true legal slander or libel then you can sue. If it is just things you don’t like to hear, that doesn’t qualify. Again, a private social media company. Should the government move in and make MSNBC and Fox carry programming that the government deems to be unbiased? For guys who claim to be pro freedom and capitalism, it seems you want government involved in even the most mundane of things like social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: If the information is true legal slander or libel then you can sue. If it is just things you don’t like to hear, that doesn’t qualify. Again, a private social media company. Should the government move in and make MSNBC and Fox carry programming that the government deems to be unbiased? For guys who claim to be pro freedom and capitalism, it seems you want government involved in even the most mundane of things like social media. Probably true, but that takes a little bit of the shine off the New York Times and the rest of the print media. Or the news media in general, of course I've bitched about that often. We, well some people, like to pretend there's some sort of sanctity about the news. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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