Orion Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 A lot of attention paid to Duke on day 1. Duke talking about Duke. Mayfield talking about Duke, Kitchens talking about Duke, the media talking about Duke. Duke, Duke, Duke. ...other than that, Landry isn't gonna run around and play cause he's got a little injury. But last year he's telling the receiver's room that unless your leg is falling off, you need to practice. ?? Oh, and Freddie was seen with his arm around Duke on the practice field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 As Duke says: he is here until he is not here, and he will be here on that practice field unless he is told to do otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Gimme the old days when players didn't always have a microphone in their face and a smartphone in their hands. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1) I saw Seth DeValve run & catch a football without cracking 1 single knee cap.. 2.) I also want to win the lottery 💰.. 3.) It's a cold rich Business* Duke..and you failed to get better today 👎.. 4. #19 WR Dorian Baker ( i've never heard of ?) is a thick ripped 6'3" 205,but can he run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, Orion said: Gimme the old days when players didn't always have a microphone in their face and a smartphone in their hands. I assume you refer to twitter, etc when you mention "smartphone". When will these players EVER (?) back off social media? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Orion said: Gimme the old days when players didn't always have a microphone in their face and a smartphone in their hands. Or to play harder in order to beat out competition for your position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Canton Mike said: I assume you refer to twitter, etc when you mention "smartphone". When will these players EVER (?) back off social media? Mike Yes. Obviously, a lot of players know enough to lay low. I'm sure Tom Brady (for example) has a smartphone....but he tends to use it to take pictures, text his buddies and check the weather. 9 hours ago, gumby73 said: 1) I saw Seth DeValve run & catch a football without cracking 1 single knee cap. lol ......and Freddie DID win the lottery. He went from RB coach, to OC and then HC in half a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Canton Mike said: I assume you refer to twitter, etc when you mention "smartphone". When will these players EVER (?) back off social media? Mike Those phones aren’t all that smart. Can’t mow grass or cook. I call em special. But it does seem as though they are replacing the automobile as an object of adoration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Orion said: ......and Freddie DID win the lottery. He went from RB coach, to OC and then HC in half a season. here comes the Duke media aftermath...how much does coach Freddie get for player babysitting, after they call you a liar? Baker ain't backing off his comments..are they nutz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domcucch1994 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Duke doesn't want to be here because he doesn't want to be the 3rd option... I get it, he's a good playmaker. He will have a good season until Hunt comes back, but he doesn't want to be a stop gap.. Trade him after week 8 and he'll be happy.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, domcucch1994 said: Duke doesn't want to be here because he doesn't want to be the 3rd option... I get it, he's a good playmaker. He will have a good season until Hunt comes back, but he doesn't want to be a stop gap.. Trade him after week 8 and he'll be happy.. The organization has done a lot of things right, but I can't wrap my head around this Duke situation. Since he's been here Duke's kept his head down and been a good player. For him to be talking that way at mini-camp no less means they miffed him pretty hard. With Hunt out 1/2 the season, I'm left scratching my head on why we boxed Johnson out as has obviously occurred. I don't ever blame a player for wanting to get snaps on the field. Duke is an exceptional back-up, change of pace back who could bring a lot of value to many clubs like he has in Cleveland. Just odd the team has rebuked him, perhaps there's something we don't know about off the field? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domcucch1994 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, jrb12711 said: The organization has done a lot of things right, but I can't wrap my head around this Duke situation. Since he's been here Duke's kept his head down and been a good player. For him to be talking that way at mini-camp no less means they miffed him pretty hard. With Hunt out 1/2 the season, I'm left scratching my head on why we boxed Johnson out as has obviously occurred. I don't ever blame a player for wanting to get snaps on the field. Duke is an exceptional back-up, change of pace back who could bring a lot of value to many clubs like he has in Cleveland. Just odd the team has rebuked him, perhaps there's something we don't know about off the field? Could very well be.. Some people have said he has lost a step. Maybe that's why he was not utilized as much last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, jrb12711 said: perhaps there's something we don't know about off the field? Yes, there is. It's called business. I can easily picture Dorsey being a nice buddy with his fellow GMs and a dog when negociating deals with players. EDIT: Also, Dorsey had a plan. And as many people with plans, when something sticks out or doesn't go as planned you can be annoyed. Duke's move was unwanted. Foreseeable? yes, but ideally Dorsey didn't want to deal with any of this. I can't imagine what has been going on there, but if it wasn't pretty I wouldn't be surprised a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Dontrell Hilliard is as good as Duke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, ballpeen said: Dontrell Hilliard is as good as Duke. & if Dorsey and Kitchens come to that conclusion, Duke will get traded. as Baker said, you're either on this train, or you're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 First culling of the herd. A lot of other info in the link. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Desmond-Harrison-release-Cleveland-Browns-132614603/?utm_source=247Sports Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=190605_130449_Cleveland Browns&utm_content=Image&liveconnect=CA-1F-A7-07-02-43-35-CA-71-7D-7D-AF-89-03-3E-6C190605_130449ClevelandBrowns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gipper Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, ballpeen said: Dontrell Hilliard is as good as Duke. I have yet to see proof of that...not that it may not be true. I just do not see the convincing evidence of it. But...again, that may be a matter of opportunity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Nero said: Yes, there is. It's called business. I can easily picture Dorsey being a nice buddy with his fellow GMs and a dog when negociating deals with players. EDIT: Also, Dorsey had a plan. And as many people with plans, when something sticks out or doesn't go as planned you can be annoyed. Duke's move was unwanted. Foreseeable? yes, but ideally Dorsey didn't want to deal with any of this. I can't imagine what has been going on there, but if it wasn't pretty I wouldn't be surprised a bit. Yeah, might be right there. My educated guess (totally spit balling) is that Duke had some conversations about his role moving forward in the early off season with Chubb obviously earning top dog. The powers that be stated to him that he was definitely part of the plan, and then got blind sided with a guy like Hunt being signed (obviously to be the back-up). If I'm even around the right answer, I can't blame Duke. Rightly or wrongly, speaking out in today's NFL gets the players leverage (see AB) and may motivate the Browns to make a move, maybe not. What I feel very strongly about is that Duke is good enough to be a good role player on many teams in the NFL. If I got the vibe he (Duke) was the master mind behind everything, I'd feel differently. The part I just don't understand is that we got him on a pretty friendly deal with no cap savings. A trade would net a 5th round pick, at most. Why this team wouldn't see him as a great back-up for the first 1/2 of the season doesn't make sense, unless there is a injury or something weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, ballpeen said: Dontrell Hilliard is as good as Duke. Based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 8 hours ago, domcucch1994 said: Duke doesn't want to be here because he doesn't want to be the 3rd option... I get it, he's a good playmaker. He will have a good season until Hunt comes back, but he doesn't want to be a stop gap.. Trade him after week 8 and he'll be happy.. Duke does not want to be here for what he stated..Duke feels the organization lied to him, putting him on the trading block.period. That's the Business ..Duke would also be the 2nd* option at RB up to the trade deadline & Hunt's return..Honestly..In Hard Knocks it was Haley & some staff that was calling out Hue for being to soft with selected personal..Who was the player Hue got the heat for? Duke Johnson(Haley called him soft too, in my book)..That kind of chit may not sit right in the locker room most of last season? Sorry, Duke won't be here 8 weeks & won't re-gain his teammates trust by week 1..Duke will get his ticket out of town when Dorsey has some trading leverage.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 I still blame Dorsey for some of this. After signing Hunt he was asked if this signing made Duke expendable and he answered, Not Yet. - I love Dorsey, but that one word was a blunder. ...I'm off to rehearsal to make music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, Orion said: ...I'm off to rehearsal to make music Freebird!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Freebird!! Simple Man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Simple Man! Gimme back my bullets..🔫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 I hear OBJ made a nifty catch today. And Harrison was told not to miss the next flight home. - worked on Handle With Care (Traveling Wilburys), The Stake (Steve Miller), Animals (Big Al Anderson), Runnin Down Dream (Tom Petty) - I sucked. Gotta quit the yard work and get to practicin' (we talkin bout PRACTICE) - tourist asked the cab driver, How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Orion said: I hear OBJ made a nifty catch today. And Harrison was told not to miss the next flight home. - worked on Handle With Care (Traveling Wilburys), The Stake (Steve Miller), Animals (Big Al Anderson), Runnin Down Dream (Tom Petty) - I sucked. Gotta quit the yard work and get to practicin' (we talkin bout PRACTICE) - tourist asked the cab driver, How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Lotsa practice give Michael Stanley credit for that line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 17 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Based on what? Based on what I saw last year in his limited chances and the reports from the coaches this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 15 hours ago, gumby73 said: Gimme back my bullets..🔫 The Ballad of Curtis Lowe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Speaking of Skynyrd, anyone see the new documentary "If I Leave Here Tomorrow" about them? Been on Showtime, it's really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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