Canton Mike Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Read a musing today that McCoy just might drag out signing past the upcoming mandatory mini-camps. I was thinking that may be a possibility. We'll see soon enough. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Looks like he is making the decision among 3 (Browns are one of them) over this weekend. https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-notebook-dt-mccoy-reportedly-022408829.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 4:20 PM, Clevfan4life said: how long have i had what? The stupid look on your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, One Post said: The stupid look on your face. what is this about now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 From Mayfield Village,Ohio..Bake's Kids Camp(cool video) He's working on McCoy too.. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/06/baker-mayfield-says-hes-recruiting-gerald-mccoy-eager-for-a-full-house-at-browns-minicamp.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours 😂..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/ 🤫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 4 hours ago, gumby73 said: So the Cat gets out of the bag to my wife, about the McCoy trade possibles.. And the Card night Saturday, turns into why the Panthers will sign McCoy..I say "not a chance, McCoy will be a Brownie if winning enough games is his word". And before the wifes 4th "any updates on McCoy trade"? today.. am off to float the river.. for like several hours 😂..Let's get this done Dorse.. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2019/06/02/panthers-browns-ravens-gerald-mccoy-2019-projections/ 🤫 Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent. The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Well...it would NOT be a trade, as he is a free agent. The Browns would not have to give up anything to get him but money. could ya tell i was ready to get out of the house..I'd almost bet in your baseball days, they called you the "sacrifice squeezer" ..some Panther fans are not that bright 💭..and they owe me about 35 bucks. Playing with some panthers cards on their turf. That i swore i might have seen 5 face cards all night..They come to Cleveland cards next week.. I'll get even, with them squeezers too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, gumby73 said: could ya tell i was ready to get out of the house..I'd almost bet in your baseball days, they called you the "sacrifice squeezer" ..some Panther fans are not that bright 💭..and they owe me about 35 bucks. Playing with some panthers cards on their turf. That i swore i might have seen 5 face cards all night..They come to Cleveland cards next week.. I'll get even, with them squeezers too.. Maybe your problem is that you have not been giving your wife enough "sacrifice squeezes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 he signed with Panthers http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032588/article/dt-gerald-mccoy-signing-with-carolina-panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 Good luck in Carolina Gerald. Time for us to move on. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 what did he end up signing for? was it a lot more than what the Browns offered? I mean he's not gonna start there either...what's the point then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 1y/4M guaranteed, total value 10M if hits all bonuses Carolina now has only 8m for all rookies and UDFA.. not much. So the next shoe to fall will probably be Carolina cutting/trading Dontari Poe's 5.8M/3.3M hit over the next 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 year 4M at signing/3M base/500k Camp Bonus/500k per game on 46 man active/Sack bonus=6.5 sacks =500k. 8 sacks-1.5M ect.ect./250k if he makes the pro-bowl/250k if Panthers make the playoffs(ah nah! see Saints)..Total deal could MAX. 10.25M..Rumors not confirmed*--McCoy took less money than other deals? is rumored, to play the revenge card against Bucs week 2 & 6 while staying in the familiar NFC South..and no issue in Tampa giving McCoy's #93 to Suh Monday with Arians saying "McCoy just don't fit our Defensive scheme"..🤔..guess i will be grilling the wife some tv dinners..all this week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, gumby73 said: .guess i will be grilling the wife some tv dinners. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Eh, don't need him anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 hours ago, gumby73 said: 1 year 4M at signing/3M base/500k Camp Bonus/500k per game on 46 man active/Sack bonus=6.5 sacks =500k. 8 sacks-1.5M ect.ect./250k if he makes the pro-bowl/250k if Panthers make the playoffs(ah nah! see Saints)..Total deal could MAX. 10.25M..Rumors not confirmed*--McCoy took less money than other deals? is rumored, to play the revenge card against Bucs week 2 & 6 while staying in the familiar NFC South..and no issue in Tampa giving McCoy's #93 to Suh Monday with Arians saying "McCoy just don't fit our Defensive scheme"..🤔..guess i will be grilling the wife some tv dinners..all this week So, a couple of questions: What did the Browns offer him, if known? (can we assume it was less than this incentive laden deal? Did the Browns offer an incentive laden deal?) This deal also leaves the Panthers with almost -0- cap space. Someone above said they would need to cut their other starting DT to make room for McCoy And does this indicate that the "I want to play for a certain contender" was just a smokescreen? The primary cog for the Panthers, Cam Newton, is just coming off serious shoulder surgery...the kind that cause Andrew Luck to miss a year. And even with him the Vegas over/under for that team was projected as less than both the Browns and Ravens: Carolina Panthers 2019 Win Total: 8 (over +100 /under -120) 2018 Wins: 7 Bottom line....he wasn't getting the money he wanted from the AFCN teams, and the incentive laden contract was the best he could do....and maybe the other incentive was to play against the Bucs twice a year. That..I can understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, PoeticG said: Eh, don't need him anyway. Need? Maybe not. But the Browns could have used him, for sure, in my mind, given a shallow depth chart at DT: T 65 Ogunjobi, Larry 17/3 91 Price, Brian SF18 94 Davis, Carl W/Bal 96 Ekuale, Daniel CF18 DT 98 Richardson, Sheldon U/Min 93 Coley, Trevon SF16 99 Lawrence, Devaroe T/NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 rumor is the Browns offered him 8. They don't know if that was after incentives. And signing with Carolina he gets to play the Bucs twice a year. Ah well, at least he didn't stiff us for the shitbirds. Still tho...i'm not comfortable with our interior D if either Sheldon or Jobi get hurt. I don't want to see Jobi out there playing hurt like he had to last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 hours ago, LBC mike said: he signed with Panthers http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001032588/article/dt-gerald-mccoy-signing-with-carolina-panthers Better them than Baltimore. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 8 hours ago, The Gipper said: So, a couple of questions: 1.What did the Browns offer him, if known? (can we assume it was less than this incentive laden deal? Did the Browns offer an incentive laden deal?) (let more of the smoke clear from our end.It will & it reads as if the Ravens tossed More Money than us..News to me, but McCoy also has a friendship with Newton.. Newton>Lamar.. This deal also leaves the Panthers with almost -0- cap space. Someone above said they would need to cut their other starting DT to make room for McCoy No,read below, they took a different path imo And does this indicate that the "I want to play for a certain contender" was just a smokescreen? (division familiar, closest to home, but maybe not there next year?)All 3 could contend, but what is believable, am also reading that McCoy likes Ron Rivera as a proven HC, verse Freddie is the unknown) The primary cog for the Panthers, Cam Newton, is just coming off serious shoulder surgery...the kind that cause Andrew Luck to miss a year. (reading anybodies believed medical report is a bad idea..I read Cam is throwing, How well? can't tell ya..Panthers media can't either.. Bottom line....he wasn't getting the money he wanted from the AFCN teams, and the incentive laden contract was the best he could do....and maybe the other incentive was to play against the Bucs twice a year. That..I can understand. To cut Panthers DT Poe would cost 9.3M..Kwan Short 17M They choose the other draftable road, in what their seeing in shells & shorts at OTa's..Ron Rivera is a well known gambler..1)Their 1st pick was Brian Burns to replace J.Peppers..2)They are counting big time on their 2nd round pick T Greg Little-Old Miss..Panthers cut T Matt Kalil which took 7.5M off books/a cap hit of 4.9M. Combine this with WR Torrey Smith playing for 2M dollars less at 3M this season.Done over the weekend. 3) Their 3rd pick was QB Will Grier..With McCoy on the books,and related moves, the Panthers own 10K in cap space..Only having to pay two draftee's left A.)T Greg Little B.) DE Brian Burns..they may only squeeze under the cap by what Torrey Smith saved them over the weekend. They will slowly build cap back up getting down to 53..but it's a high risky injury business when jobs become on the line..Da Panthers are living up to Riverboat Ron's calling cards..Just one guys opinion, and they all vary living in Carolina right now.. F'em... Go Browns!! proven by last seasons scoreboard..we own the better talent than the Kitty cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 7:28 AM, Clevfan4life said: ok, 13m for mccoy right now is maybe too steep unless he's willing to restructure. Heres another thought....the 9'ers are looking to moce soloman thomas..forner #3 pick. 2 years left on his rookie deal. 6'3 280 is a nice rotational DE type who could play inside on certain downs. Maybe we can develop him better than SF, i dunno....just a thought. But we could send duke to SF for him plus more potentially. It's way too steep for a backup. His Replacements only getting 9 and change. And I'd rather have Suh. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Mccoy wussed out - the weather is a lot nicer down in the Carolinas....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: rumor is the Browns offered him 8. Still tho...i'm not comfortable with our interior D if either Sheldon or Jobi get hurt. I don't want to see Jobi out there playing hurt like he had to last year. How about Chris Smith? “Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/nflspinzone.com/2019/03/30/cleveland-browns-complete-defensive-line/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: How about Chris Smith? “Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/nflspinzone.com/2019/03/30/cleveland-browns-complete-defensive-line/amp/ Glad somone else is mentioning Smith. He, much like Zettel, brings great flexibility to this dline in the mold that both are edge defenders with the strength to move inside in sub packages, passing downs and 4end looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 5 hours ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: How about Chris Smith? “Chris Smith can play on the edge, but his value has always been more on the interior over the course of his career. This will be worth keeping an eye on under Steve Wilks as to where they try to utilize him. His box score hasn’t been great there, but his rate for generating pressure has been substantially higher inside.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/nflspinzone.com/2019/03/30/cleveland-browns-complete-defensive-line/amp/ i prefer smith at DE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 from what am hearing from Duke..How much does DT Damon 'Snacks' Harrison want at Lions? Snacks,is sitting it out in detroit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 minute ago, gumby73 said: from what am hearing from Duke..How much does DT Damon 'Snacks' Harrison want at Lions? Snacks,is sitting it out in detroit.. Wanting a long term contract extension... Not sure the Browns are willing to offer him that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Wanting a long term contract extension... Not sure the Browns are willing to offer him that. tell the man he's age 30..just looked..he wants more than 6.7M this season & 1 more season, really pending..Nobody enjoys Matt Patricia's boot camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: i prefer smith at DE And like Zettel, is his base position. I'm merely saying they offer flexibility along the front by being able to move around. 4 minutes ago, gumby73 said: tell the man he's age 30..just looked..he wants more than 6.7M this season & 1 more season, really pending You can tell whatever you like to some people - doesn't mean they listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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