darren15 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Various twitter accounts reporting .....apparently we are in talks with the Jets, Texans and Eagles .......Darron Lee from Jets looks a possibility now ..... probably be draft pick from other 2 teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Cant blame him. As soon as hunt comes off suspension his touches go to zero like a calculus limit function..🤓 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Knew this was probably coming. Guess you can’t keep three RBs happy. Financially wouldn’t make sense in the long run... but would have liked to have seen them all three this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 I'd like to see them bring a big beast of a FB in that can catch out of the backfield when needed. I still think a stout power I with a FB and chubb makes for lots of clean real estate behind the LB'ers for obj and Jarvis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 It's truly a player business move. Play 8, risk injury, to get traded? Name one football player, that does this, to not want to play? I commend Duke on handling this the way he has.. He came in & outplayed Crow many times. Than, not many had Nick Chubb beating out Hyde in year one? not me for one & Hue for 2. So maybe Dorsey did? But Duke imo was seriously under used with Hyde.. Hunt's a unexpected gifted RB talent we added to our roster with nothing but his own career in his own hands to lose. And it still certainly could also blow up in Dorsey's lap.. It's 'not Duke's choices to make. It's a business decision of talent that has already been decided by Dorsey, in Duke's opinion. And a hope on Dorsey's part on what you Trust in business.🤞 As a Duke Johnson fan, I can only wish him well finding the right team & playing time he rightly believes he deserves..Good Luck, Du-u-u-ke 👍 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Not much to dd to the gumster's take... so I'll boil it down a tad. I think Duke just wants a chance compete and play somewhere where he is wanted rather than be a placeholder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 OK, since Ogbah's gone, Duke for Darron Lee anyone? I would give Duke & a mid rounder for Lee in a heartbeat, but Duke may have devalued himself with his being a "no-show" today. Then again, JD may have been holding back until Hunt's on field presence is closer & Duke may have forced his hand. We'll see what happens. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have, and I was hoping we'd have another 8 games to try and figure it out. After all, Kitchens was a new OC and we had a crap load of new shite to pull together. Do I understand his frustration about playing? I guess so, a RB only has so much time, but on the other hand, we extended his contract and presumably WANTED him in Cleveland...so whatever. I just always respected him and hate to see him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said: I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have, Yup. And it was surprising when Kitchens didn't utilize him also. He was our best offensive player for a couple of years. I'll miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Duke seemed slowed last year, and Hunt is a terrific receiver.. But we basically have Hunt under contract for half a season, so if we trade Duke we still need a third down back, so there goes another draft pick to a less experienced receiver and blocker. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 46 minutes ago, Zombo said: Duke seemed slowed last year, and Hunt is a terrific receiver.. But we basically have Hunt under contract for half a season, so if we trade Duke we still need a third down back, so there goes another draft pick to a less experienced receiver and blocker. Z CJ Anderson 1 year deal fully guaranteed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavo Joe Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 While it is true that for a couple of seasons Duke was our best offensive weapon ( hell some games he was our ONLY weapon) I would say that on the current roster he is arguably the fifth or sixth best. From what I understand about the way his contract is structured if the Browns are going to trade him it's in their best interest to do it after June 1. I totally get him not showing up for a voluntary team function to avoid risking an injury and to show his displeasure, but unless the Browns get an offer they can't refuse I don't see him going anywhere soon. Again keeping in mind our current roster I would assume Duke's production could be replaced easily. My biggest fear would be an injury to Chubb, that might cause some regret should they trade Duke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 55 minutes ago, Pavo Joe said: While it is true that for a couple of seasons Duke was our best offensive weapon ( hell some games he was our ONLY weapon) I would say that on the current roster he is arguably the fifth or sixth best. From what I understand about the way his contract is structured if the Browns are going to trade him it's in their best interest to do it after June 1. I totally get him not showing up for a voluntary team function to avoid risking an injury and to show his displeasure, but unless the Browns get an offer they can't refuse I don't see him going anywhere soon. Again keeping in mind our current roster I would assume Duke's production could be replaced easily. My biggest fear would be an injury to Chubb, that might cause some regret should they trade Duke. I don't know about replaced easily. Chubb is awesome. Hunt could bust, or could be great. But i'll be damned if Duke couldn't crush it at 3DB without Hunt. Hunt is talented but it probably left Duke Sour. I don't blame him, If someone tells me they want to build something and then bring in two others guys, i'd be like "screw it" too. I think Dorsey just doesn't like Duke, and loves KC picks better. It's apparent, looking at the pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I think it’s a bad bad idea to let Duke go. Why not give the guy an expanded role? Make him a FB/H back hybrid type? With Orson Charles gone, Duke is the only back we have left that l trust to lay a block on a free blitzer. Why couldn’t he do that in a lead blocker role where HE’S the one with a head instead of fending off a guy with a head of steam? Oh, and he runs with and catches the ball well. He’s that quintessential “football player” that everyone claims they want on their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have, and I was hoping we'd have another 8 games to try and figure it out. After all, Kitchens was a new OC and we had a crap load of new shite to pull together. Do I understand his frustration about playing? I guess so, a RB only has so much time, but on the other hand, we extended his contract and presumably WANTED him in Cleveland...so whatever. I just always respected him and hate to see him go. He isn't necessarily going anywhere. Just because his agent says he may want to. I want to bed Kaley Cuocco.....don't mean its going to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 hours ago, darren15 said: CJ Anderson 1 year deal fully guaranteed ? Signed elsewhere....Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Did someone just say Duke oughta be at FB......sigh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_chudzinksi2000 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: I think it’s a bad bad idea to let Duke go. Why not give the guy an expanded role? Make him a FB/H back hybrid type? With Orson Charles gone, Duke is the only back we have left that l trust to lay a block on a free blitzer. Why couldn’t he do that in a lead blocker role where HE’S the one with a head instead of fending off a guy with a head of steam? Oh, and he runs with and catches the ball well. He’s that quintessential “football player” that everyone claims they want on their team. Duke Johnson is the Miami hurricanes all time leading rusher. And he’s only proven he can move the ball. It’ll definitely be a loss in Cleveland’s column to lose him because they chose Kareem hunt and Chubb instead but what kind of magic mushrooms are you finding to say he should be a blocking fullback? Good lord. If you’re not strung out than there’s a serious problem that needs fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Duke is exactly the type of player you need in today’s NFL. Baffled by any attempt to move him on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Now we have to move him. Once players start asking for a trade in the public forum, they become a distraction. Him not being at the workouts is a distraction. Time to move on. He is replaceable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Reactions to signing other top players at their positions (as we did Hunt)..... Baker....."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Landry..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" OBJ......."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Chubb..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Duke....."WAAA, I'm takin' my ball & going home." We want & need COMPETITORS, not QUITTERS! Bye Duke. Mike 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 5:40 PM, darren15 said: .....apparently we are in talks with the Jets, Texans and Eagles .......Darron Lee from Jets looks a possibility now ..... probably be draft pick from other 2 teams Lots of smoke burning on twitter...Tre Boston to announce his new landing spot today/ Tre tweet..believable names mentioned in Duke trade, 1) Jets-LB Darron Lee 2)Texans-LB Brennan Scarlett 3) Philly-CB Rasul Douglas..With no player attached to Duke? I've seen 4th to 6th rounders might get offered up..this deal needs to get done before the draft imo.. This is a Duke/agent players choice..but Dorsey brings his own set of dealing Cards ♠️♥️♦️♣️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 I'm still hoping for Darron Lee, but whoever or whatever it is, JD will get 'er done! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: Did someone just say Duke oughta be at FB......sigh Nope, no one said that. I said “FB/H-back hybrid type”. If it eases your mind to call it an H-back then go for it. I’m just acknowledging that Duke is an above average blocker for a halfback, and probably better at it than our tight ends. I get that asking him to lead block at the rate of a typical FB is gonna get him killed, but maybe 5 times a game? 1) Kitchens doesn’t really utilize a FB that much anyway, but he does use one. Towards the end of the season we all saw DeValve awkwardly fill in for the role previously occupied by Orson Charles, plowing into a defender and then falling down. Duke could do a better job than that. 2) Kitchens has also shown that he can do some fun creative things with multiple backs. The guy has a knack for manipulating misdirection. Duke is an ideal candidate to do such things with due to his varied skill set. 3) I read something last year where Duke said he took a degree of pride in his blocking. He works at it, he’s good at it, and it shows. 4) It nets more playing time for Duke. Right now he feels like the underappreciated odd man out, but he could be a lynchpin in a lot of cool formations and plays. Kitchens has shown he can go out of the box to utilize his players’ skill sets (Landry throwing bombs, wishbone formations, etc) so it’s not that far out of left field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Canton Mike said: Reactions to signing other top players at their positions (as we did Hunt)..... Baker....."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Landry..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" OBJ......."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Chubb..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Duke....."WAAA, I'm takin' my ball & going home." We want & need COMPETITORS, not QUITTERS! Bye Duke. Mike Exactly.. This is a Man's game.. Snowflakes need not apply... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Some rumor on twitter ( and poster said it is a rumor so could be bullshit ) today say we are in talks with the Jets to swap Duke for Darron Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Canton Mike said: Reactions to signing other top players at their positions (as we did Hunt)..... Baker....."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Landry..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" OBJ......."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Chubb..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Duke....."WAAA, I'm takin' my ball & going home." We want & need COMPETITORS, not QUITTERS! Bye Duke. Mike Eh, to be honest I never have gotten that vibe from this situation. I may as well be the conductor on the Dorsey train, but this Duke saga I think he has whiffed on. My opinion? When Dorsey signed Hunt to the team Duke rightfully behind the scenes had some conversations with Dorsey about his role, future with the team. I'm getting the vibe strongly Dorsey strung him a long a bit and finally made it clear he was not in the future plans of the organization, which led to this "request" (if true). If all that is the case, it's a bit dramatic to take your point of view. Duke is a damn fine football player we're pushing aside, and he knows that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Canton Mike said: Reactions to signing other top players at their positions (as we did Hunt)..... Baker....."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Landry..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" OBJ......."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Chubb..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!" Duke....."WAAA, I'm takin' my ball & going home." We want & need COMPETITORS, not QUITTERS! Bye Duke. Mike These players compete in every training and every game. You can see how Duke has been a team player even when he wasn't receiving as many touches as many of us thought he should. In a sport so brutal and which such short careers (and we are talking about a running back here), I don't blame him or consider him a quitter for trying to find the best option for his career. He is not so old so we still can get an interesting trade with him, so he prefers making the move himself instead of a forced trade 8 games in or after something worse happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Darron Lee on that def would be amazing. That guy would plug the hole left by Jamie nicely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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