Orion Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Lets face it, it's the skill players that makes your team go. Where are we weak? (listed in my own order of value) ---------- Baker Mayfield 6 QB 6-1 215 23 2 Oklahoma - Drew Stanton 5 QB 6-3 226 34 12 Michigan State Odell Beckham Jr. 13 WR 5-11 198 26 6 LSU - Jarvis Landry 80 WR 5-11 196 26 6 LSU - Antonio Callaway 11 WR 5-11 200 22 2 Florida - Rashard Higgins 81 WR 6-1 198 24 4 Colorado State - Derrick Willies 84 WR 6-4 207 24 2 Texas Tech ...............................(other wr's) Damion Ratley 18 WR 6-2 200 23 2 Texas A&M - Ricardo Louis 15 WR 6-2 215 24 4 Auburn - Jaelen Strong 10 WR 6-2 220 25 4 Arizona State - Blake Jackson 12 WR 5-10 200 25 1 Mary Hardin-Baylor Nick Chubb 24 RB 5-11 227 23 2 Georgia - Kareem Hunt RB 5-11 216 23 3 Toledo - Duke Johnson Jr. 29 RB 5-9 210 25 5 Miami (Fla.) - Dontrell Hilliard 25 RB 5-11 202 24 2 Tulane - Devante Mays 42 RB 5-11 237 24 2 Utah State David Njoku 85 TE 6-4 246 22 3 Miami (Fla.) - Seth DeValve 87 TE 6-3 245 26 4 Princeton - Demetrius Harris 88 TE 6-7 230 27 6 Wisconsin-Milwaukee - Pharaoh Brown 86 TE 6-6 258 24 2 Oregon ------------- You could say we might be weak at b/u QB. But losing a starting QB is almost always fatal to a team....and Nick Foles has landed a starting job. Perhaps #2 pass catching TE. DeValve hasn't shown much over his career to this point. #2 RB could be an issue for the first half of the season, depending on what they do with Duke. But other than that we're pretty well stocked now. We actually HAVE some talent. And I'm holding out hope that that Derick Willies guy is something special. He flashed a time or two last season before getting hurt...and he's good and tall. - I'm thinking we'll be drafting defense. DB's and LBers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkid3 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 I just noticed a lot of 5'11 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Where are we weak? At this point we likely have to concentrate on some pieces on the defense. LB, DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Alkid3 said: I just noticed a lot of 5'11 players. That's why I like that Willies kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 hours ago, The Gipper said: Where are we weak? At this point we likely have to concentrate on some pieces on the defense. LB, DB. 1) young developing back-up QB that can get to PS such as Gardner Minshew? 2) can't count on Higgins not finding a deal. we may have a 4th without Higgins on the squad? 5th or 6th could be upgraded in this deep WR class. 3.) Devalve? can't trust a guy that can't stay on the field.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, gumby73 said: can't count on Higgins not finding a deal. We tendered him right? 2nd round tender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Orion said: We tendered him right? 2nd round tender? Dorsey put original round tender on Higgy..He'd make just over 2M sticking with us on the tender 1 year or if Dorsey see's a 5th rounder? he could be gone..seemed like a risk b4 the OBJ trade, now it depends on when the run of drafted WR's starts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 A 5th rounder then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 I like the assessment from PFF's Sam Monson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 8:50 PM, Orion said: Lets face it, it's the skill players that makes your team go. Where are we weak? (listed in my own order of value) You could say we might be weak at b/u QB. But losing a starting QB is almost always fatal to a team....and Nick Foles has landed a starting job. Perhaps #2 pass catching TE. DeValve hasn't shown much over his career to this point. #2 RB could be an issue for the first half of the season, depending on what they do with Duke. But other than that we're pretty well stocked now. We actually HAVE some talent. And I'm holding out hope that that Derick Willies guy is something special. He flashed a time or two last season before getting hurt...and he's good and tall. - I'm thinking we'll be drafting defense. DB's and LBers. Great stuff and spot on analysis Orion! Like you, I see most of our draft going defense especially early on. #2 TE: I remembered thinking if DeValve could ever stay healthier in the NFL than he could in college - we might have gotten a huge steal. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on that 3-4 years later so... I think Cajuste was also a former college WR turned TE that didn't quite pan out (played injured throughout camp) as well as Evan Moore (mostly due to concussion volumes). There's a some dual purpose TE prospects that intrigue me with mid-late round projection such as: Drew Sample 6'4"251 lbs Washington (summarized as 30 starts, exceptional blocker, above average hands), Josh Moreau LSU 6'4"250 lbs (Recent analysis - superior blocker, surprisingly it was his pass catching ability that impressed scouts during Senior Bowl week), Dax Raymond Utah State 6'4" 250 lbs (described as outstanding blocker and offensive threat) and Jace Sternberger Texas A&M 6"4" 250lbs (48 rec, 832 yards,10 TDs - possesses great mix of bock, catch and run skills as 1 of the more explosive TE prospects)... Found these fellers in Lindy's Draft Guide and the height weight thing is quite the coincidence... Oline/RG: No better way for Dorsey to say "don't worry about it" for the temporary vacancy at RG than signing Bryan Witzmann from a playoff roster (2018 Bears) that started several games on it at RG. He's also previously started games at LG for Houston and KC. We'll be tuning into the training camp/pre-season competition for the starting RG spot. Meanwhile, veteran RT Kendall Lamm joins us after starting 13 games for the Houston Texans in 2018. RT is another training camp competition that intrigues me. I can see us drafting an offensive lineman in round 4 or 5. RB: I think we'll be fine with Chubb, Duke and Hilliard over the 1st 8 weeks. Keep in mind, Duke got a raise/extension heading into last off season so there had to be a FO belief in him. If not, the Rams reminded us late last year how easy it is to find reliable veteran help at RB. WR: This feels like the first time in ages I can say we don't need to waste a draft pick on a WR. I also liked what I saw in Willies not to mention there was a reason he made the team. I love his catch radius as well as the size and length of stride he adds to our perimeter. Secondary: As we saw with the multiplicity of injuries to our CBs last year (inclusive of losing backups) - looking good on paper isn't always enough. We could definitely use another quality corner. We also need to replace a starter at Safety - although Derrick Kindred has starting experience in that spot. He should only get better as the help around him improves. Depth is really needed at both Safety positions. I definitely see us drafting DBs to challenge for starting spots, situational roles and depth LB: Huge need; and we could find a starter via trade, round 2 or trade-up. Both Schobert and Kirksey were injured last year while Collins is gone. DL: Starting line-up looks REAL good on paper. That said, we really need to improve our depth at DT in a draft that seems loaded at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 #2 TE...Agree re DeValve. The man can't stay on the field. Lots of prospects (as you pointed out, Tom) in the draft. We need one to catch AND block. WR...Willies shows something, but I REALLY want to keep Higgins here. LB...IMO, this is our biggest current need & I believe a trade is coming, but we'll just wait & see. I'm anxious to see how this draft plays out & what moves Dorsey & crew do & don't make. I have a feeling he will watch for "droppers" & trade up when he thinks the time is right. These are only my opinions which ain't worth squat. One thing I AM sure of is that JD, Highsmith, Wolf et al know a hell of a lot more than any of us on this Board. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 When your GM finds guys like Avery and Callaway in the later rounds, the draft process becomes way more relevant as lots of the picks will make an impact.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orion Posted March 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: When your GM finds guys like Avery and Callaway in the later rounds, the draft process becomes way more relevant as lots of the will make an impact.. Finding guys in those round is not easy work. I can't expect Dorsey to continue to have a high 'hit' rate in the bottom 4 rounds of the draft. But I can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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