Zombo Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Ok, going to keep a running Depth Chart again, these are just my projections for who we line up for opening day with the players on the roster we have now. The idea is to see where we may need to add somebody going into free agency and the draft, and then after that it is to see who makes the final 53. Some of the lesser names, like street free gents are left off until they make an impact in camp and come into the picture, so it is not an end-all depth chart, just a working skeleton: Guys in bold are guys that I think make the current final 53 QB Mayfield, Stanton FB RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.) WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown LT Robinson, Harrison LG Bitonio C Tretter RG Corbett RT Hubbard DE Garrett, Smith DT Ogunjobi, Lawrence DT Coley, Price DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas MLB Schoebert, OLB Vernon, Hines OLB Kirksey, Avery CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson CB Mitchell, Carrie, Burris S Randall. Whitehead S Peppers, Kindred K Joseph P Colquitt LS Hughlett KR Hilliard, Peppers PR Calloway, Peppers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 OK, a LOT of guys are going to be added. Right now I only have 49 guys with a chance to make the roster. But this helps to see needs: Backup Quarterback Blocking Fullback/TE/HB #1 WR Backup TE Guards and Tackles: Need depth for paper thin line and Starter competition at LT, RG, RT DE: Need an upgrade over Ogbah DT: Need an upgrade over Coley MLB Need depth OLB Need depth, possible replacement for Kirksey CB Need another starter quality corner ST: Competiotion for Joseph and another kick returner So going into Free agency and Draft, I say our biggest needs are: 1. Interior Defensive Line 2. Wide Receiver 3, Guard 4. Tackle 5. Defensive End 6. Cornerback 7. Tight End 8. Linebacker That's a lot of holes, but let's see what Dorsey fills in Free Agency, and then we'll have a good idea fo what our draft needs are. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 I thought Vernon was to be slated as a DE, not LB. Or is he considered an either/or guy? What about Orson at Fullback, isn't he the one that filled that role? Or the H-back role? And I have always felt that Kirksey was an ILB, not OLB. To me, he would be the natural backup to Schobert in the middle. So, I would put the priorities to be 1. DT perhaps 2. OLB to replace Collins Assuming that Vernon is in the DE role. Much of the rest of your priorities seem right on. IF, if, if, the Browns were to sign Justin Houston....he being Dorsey guy, where would that put us in terms of OLB/DE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, The Gipper said: I thought Vernon was to be slated as a DE, not LB. Or is he considered an either/or guy? What about Orson at Fullback, isn't he the one that filled that role? Or the H-back role? And I have always felt that Kirksey was an ILB, not OLB. To me, he would be the natural backup to Schobert in the middle. So, I would put the priorities to be 1. DT perhaps 2. OLB to replace Collins Assuming that Vernon is in the DE role. Much of the rest of your priorities seem right on. IF, if, if, the Browns were to sign Justin Houston....he being Dorsey guy, where would that put us in terms of OLB/DE Vernon is an either/or, if we sign Houston, then I see Houston at LB and Vernon in Ogbah's spot. That would be nice. Orson Charles is a free agent. Kirksey not being paid to be a backup, either he starts outside or he is replaced and he walks, imo. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momszer Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Zombo you have 52 peeps listed which includes Hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Very Happy to update the depth chart 3/13/18: Going to keep a running Depth Chart again, these are just my projections for who we line up for opening day with the players on the roster we have now. The idea is to see where we may need to add somebody going into free agency and the draft, and then after that it is to see who makes the final 53. Some of the lesser names, like street free gents are left off until they make an impact in camp and come into the picture, so it is not an end-all depth chart, just a working skeleton: Guys in bold are guys that I think make the current final 53 QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton FB RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.) WR1 O. Beckham, A. Calloway, D. Willies, R. Louis, B. Jackson WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, J.Strong, D .Ratley, TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison LG J. Bitonio C J.Tretter K. Kalis RG A.Corbett RT C. Hubbard, B. Seaton DE Garrett, Smith, Thomas DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price DE O. Vernon, Ogbah, Zettle, MLB Schoebert, R. Armstrong OLB G. Avery, Hines OLB Kirksey, A. Thomas CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, H. Wilson CB T. Mitchell, T. Carrie, S D. Randall. J. Whitehead S D. Kindred K Joseph P Colquitt LS Hughlett KR Hilliard PR Calloway Notes: I went with the consensus and moved Vernon as an edge rusher at DE, not edge rusher lined as OLB There have been no press releases from Browns either way on FAs Charles FB/TE and FA Burris CB ... so I will keep them off for now, but I have a feeling that Charles will be penciled back in. I've heard rumblings about the Browns signing a reserve free agent guard from the Bears, Eric Kush, but nothing has been made official, so Promoted some filler names who I don't think will make the team. I filled in a few other spots that will get blown out by more FAs draft and udfa period, guys in bold have best shot to make final 53 IMO Updated Major Needs List: 1. Interior Defensive Line Linebacker 2. Wide Receiver Safety 3, Guard 4. Tackle 5. Defensive End Cornerback We still have the draft and the rest of free agency to hit our biggest needs ... Earl Thomas could drop safety off the emergency list. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Zombo said: 1. Interior Defensive Line Linebacker 2. Wide Receiver Safety 3, Guard 4. Tackle 5. Defensive End Cornerback I'd swap CB and Safety, Z. I think Kindred can fill Peppers's shoes in Wilks' system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: I'd swap CB and Safety, Z. I think Kindred can fill Peppers's shoes in Wilks' system. Well, with departures of Peppers and Calhoun, I only see three guys on the roster that could make the 53 as a safety and one is a dedicated special teamer, so something is going to give there. I agree on CB as a major need, as we only have three guys that are starter quality and you really need five good ones, and finding another top notch starter across from Ward would be ideal. Z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Yup... land a CB prize and our depth gets good at the position in a hurry. EDIT: ... and I just remembered we still have Wilson in the wings... I still have great hopes for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Tour2ma said: Yup... land a CB prize and our depth gets good at the position in a hurry. EDIT: ... and I just remembered we still have Wilson in the wings... I still have great hopes for the kid. I thought of you when I bolded his name. Plus, I follow him on Tweeter and he seems like a dedicated kid. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I don't really see them having 9 WRs and 4 TEs....and no backup OG. Plus, you have 55 on there, so two have to go. Likely from these spots. If we do get Earl Thomas, then that position will have been taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Gipper said: I don't really see them having 9 WRs and 4 TEs....and no backup OG. Plus, you have 55 on there, so two have to go. Likely from these spots. If we do get Earl Thomas, then that position will have been taken care of. This is not intended to be a Final 53 at this point, we still have a huge influx coming in. Just a skeleton for the fans to identify our needs. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zombo said: This is not intended to be a Final 53 at this point, we still have a huge influx coming in. Just a skeleton for the fans to identify our needs. Z Of course, More moves to make (Thomas?) and draft picks to include. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Zombo said: Very Happy to update the depth chart 3/13/18: Going to keep a running Depth Chart again, these are just my projections for who we line up for opening day with the players on the roster we have now. The idea is to see where we may need to add somebody going into free agency and the draft, and then after that it is to see who makes the final 53. Some of the lesser names, like street free gents are left off until they make an impact in camp and come into the picture, so it is not an end-all depth chart, just a working skeleton: Guys in bold are guys that I think make the current final 53 QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton FB RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.) WR1 O. Beckham, A. Calloway, D. Willies, R. Louis, B. Jackson WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, J.Strong, D .Ratley, TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown Zombo Wow has the firepower changed since I came over here before the 2016 season one can't help to look forward to the 2019 Draft and other possible acquisitions to see how the 2019 BROWNS do to challenge the ALC and try to move on from there. Now to concentrate on the defense and make our fantastic 2019 predictions. You can't help not getting fired up about this season. GO BROWNS, just win baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Post Free Agency Rush Period Depth Chart ... Time to focus on the draft! Guys in bold are guys that I think make the current final 53 QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton FB RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.) WR1 O. Beckham, A. Calloway, D. Willies, R. Louis, B. Jackson WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, J.Strong, D .Ratley, TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison LG J. Bitonio C J.Tretter K. Kalis RG A.Corbett, E. Kush RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton DE Garrett, Smith, Thomas DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price DE O. Vernon, Ogbah, Zettle, MLB Schoebert, R. Armstrong OLB G. Avery, Hines OLB Kirksey, A. Thomas CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, H. Wilson CB T. Mitchell, T. Carrie, P. Gaines S D. Randall. J. Whitehead S D. Kindred K Joseph P Colquitt LS Hughlett KR (Hilliard) PR (Calloway) No, I don't think we are going to keep 8 WRS , these are just the guys that have the best chance of landing a roster spot at this writing ... ahead of the draft. restricted free agents who I have heard nothing either way ... like Orson Charles, I am leaving off for now. Updated Needs: 1. Linebacker 2. Safety 4. Cornerback 5. OL Depth Other concerns: Backup QB Kicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Zombo said: D. Lawrence So TGZ is booking Dexter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: So TGZ is booking Dexter? It would be a few less keystrokes if he replace Deveroe on the roster. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 I love that you consistently call Callaway Calloway, Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 11:07 AM, Zombo said: and finding another top notch starter across from Ward would be ideal. Z Mitchell, when healthy last year, looked to be top notch for a #2 corner. If a rookie can come in here and beat out Mitchell, that would make our top 3 corners as good as any in this league (especially with an improved pass rush). That wouldn't suck at all... As outrageous as this sounds - the problem wasn't depth at corner last year. It was injuries to our depth (during the time we went without one or both starters at corner). Both guys named Gaines got injured to the extent Randall had to be our 3rd corner during some of our games. That's just REAL bad luck when you can only commit so many active roster spots to the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 hours ago, Nero said: I love that you consistently call Callaway Calloway, Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zombo Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Updated 3/22/19 Guys in bold are guys that I think make the current final 53 QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton FB RB N. Chubb, D. Johnson, D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.) WR1 O. Beckham, A. Calloway, D. Willies, R. Louis, B. Jackson WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, J.Strong, D .Ratley, TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison LG J. Bitonio E. Kush C J.Tretter K. Kalis RG A.Corbett, B. Witzmann RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton DE Garrett, Smith, Thomas DT Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence DT S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price DE O. Vernon, Ogbah, Zettle, MLB Schoebert, R. Armstrong OLB G. Avery, Hines OLB Kirksey, A. Thomas CB D. Ward , T. Thomas, H. Wilson CB T. Mitchell, T. Carrie, P. Gaines S D. Randall. J. Whitehead S D. Kindred K Joseph P Colquitt LS Hughlett KR (Hilliard) PR (Calloway) Updated Major Needs: Linebacker, Safety, Tackle, Cornerback Other concerns: Backup QB, Kicker 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 At CB, we're a team that needs a good CB opposite our star...but also behind him because he's prone to concussions. - Williams used to think that Ward tackled incorrectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 It’s gonna be interesting trying to figure out what need will be filled with what pick: 2nd 3rd 4th 5ths 6th-7th #49. #80. #119. #144,155. #189, 221 And #170 I would imagine... CB, LB, S are the top 3 selections. Schobert is solid and Kirksey can play well inside as well, so I’d imagine an OLB being selected high. Also don’t rule out another LB being drafted to beef up the depth of the front 7. And a DT somewhere in the mix for depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Dont we have 3 x 5th round picks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, darren15 said: Dont we have 3 x 5th round picks ? Yes...170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Here's a few good reads with some possible draft names thrown in.. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/3/19/18272368/cleveland-browns-draft-needs-4-tiers & https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/3/17/18270280/possible-day-2-picks-for-lb-ss-cb-te-and-ots-at-49-amp-80 changing by the day with new additions. And with trade bait & draft ammo to move on JD's board..BPA on defense, please.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 Top-ranked guards by PBE in 2018: 1. Eric Kush (99.2) T2. Joel Bitonio (98.9) T2. Kevin Zeitler (98.9) T2. Brandon Brooks (98.9) 5. Marshall Yanda (98.8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 ...well then. Apparently we've got great Guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 11:13 AM, Zombo said: FB Are you getting the feeling that we are going to go the H-back route again? I am... On 3/22/2019 at 7:52 PM, Orion said: At CB, we're a team that needs a good CB opposite our star...but also behind him because he's prone to concussions. - Williams used to think that Ward tackled incorrectly. Agree with your take, but I did not see Ward's tackling as "incorrect"... unless Gregg was promoting rugby style (head behind). Ward's "head in front" is the classic method, but does put la cabasa in harms way... On 3/22/2019 at 8:58 PM, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: Schobert is solid and Kirksey can play well inside as well, so I’d imagine an OLB being selected high. Also don’t rule out another LB being drafted to beef up the depth of the front 7. And a DT somewhere in the mix for depth. Agree that Joe is a more than competent MLB, but he's not the tone-setting, impact guy that great D's feature. That's why I was so focused on picking White when we still had our 1st-rounder. Nor does Kirk fill that bill... We can make due with Joe inside again, but if someone is added, or someone we already have emerges, then Joe can slide outside where he played his college ball. On 3/24/2019 at 3:15 PM, darren15 said: Top-ranked guards by PBE in 2018... Who is "PBE"??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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