DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 https://www.foxnews.com/us/christian-club-wins-religious-freedom-case-against-the-university-of-iowa?fbclid=IwAR1fCyD1wmTQAv5z_OSXakUVMxpbKTH63JI6Rb38IT_XV6W_M87aQ5KHlss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: https://www.foxnews.com/us/christian-club-wins-religious-freedom-case-against-the-university-of-iowa?fbclid=IwAR1fCyD1wmTQAv5z_OSXakUVMxpbKTH63JI6Rb38IT_XV6W_M87aQ5KHlss Yeah for discrimination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 The bible could not be any clearer that homosexuality is a sinful behavior. There are many Christians who believe the bible and it's teachings and cannot in good conscience condone homosexuality when it is specifically called out as sin in the bible. We live in a free society and there are some Christian churches/groups who accept homosexuality and if one is gay they should seek these type churches out instead of going to bible believing churches/groups and trying to force acceptance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: The bible could not be any clearer that homosexuality is a sinful behavior. There are many Christians who believe the bible and it's teachings and cannot in good conscience condone homosexuality when it is specifically called out as sin in the bible. We live in a free society and there are some Christian churches/groups who accept homosexuality and if one is gay they should seek these type churches out instead of going to bible believing churches/groups and trying to force acceptance. Couldn't be clearer on divorce, eating shellfish and bacon, or praying in public, but you hypocrites just ignored those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 “The university wanted a license to discriminate" that's literally what a lot of religious groups want.... "I'm allowed to discriminate against gays, it's my religion".... Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Just now, MLD Woody said: “The university wanted a license to discriminate" that's literally what a lot of religious groups want.... "I'm allowed to discriminate against gays, it's my religion".... Smh It is not discrimination when a church organization has biblical beliefs they adhere to and someone comes along and demands they change their belief system (which goes against clear bible teachings) to accommodate them. It doesn't work that way. All churches have their doctrines and belief systems and if you want to be a part of that church they are not under any obligation to accommodate your personal views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: It is not discrimination when a church organization has biblical beliefs they adhere to and someone comes along and demands they change their belief system (which goes against clear bible teachings) to accommodate them. It doesn't work that way. All churches have their doctrines and belief systems and if you want to be a part of that church they are not under any obligation to accommodate your personal views. It is still discrimination. discrimination - the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 "they are justify" ? "они оправданы" ? russian troll? русский тролль? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I don't care if you have a really, really old book that says black people are subhuman. Treating them like that would still be discrimination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 yet skin color is of no moral consequence - it's just skin color. Being openly gay is a behavior. Shoving your gay behavior in the face of morality is just a political bitchfest with a hoped for lawsuit for $$$$$$$$$$. Like the gays who were openly demanding a gay fake marriage cake from Christian bakers. Did they go to a Muslim bakery? Nope. Reason? Christianity is pretty much a common thread throughout Real America generally. OF course non-Christians are part of Real America, but radical leftists know that fighting Christianity's influence and winning would be a major battle won. Soft civil war by the left - wealth/power/free ride/vindication of their hate is at stake for them. sick stuff - so much like the nazis pre-WWII, and any communist/socialist movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 "yet skin color is of no moral consequence - it's just skin color. Being openly gay is a behavior. " You nailed it right there Cal. It is not like skin color or something that cannot be helped. It is a choice, a decision one makes that flies against biblical teachings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Except it used to be skin color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: "yet skin color is of no moral consequence - it's just skin color. Being openly gay is a behavior. " You nailed it right there Cal. It is not like skin color or something that cannot be helped. It is a choice, a decision one makes that flies against biblical teachings. They're both genetic We could go into all the shit the Bible says but you'll either say it doesn't count or just interpret another way. You've already said you put your religious beliefs abkvd critical thinking so I know this is going no where. People use their religion as protection to discriminate against people they don't like. It's shitty. This is no different. I'm now going to do my best to stay out of here for a bit. Maybe our new friend will go back and forth with the priest and the idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I will say this, the university apparently let other non religious groups freely discriminate and pick/choose their leadership. U cant have that double standard. And frankly...any collegiate group should be able to pick and choose their membership. Imagine an asian group being forced to accept white people into their group.....doesnt make sense. Now if this religious group promoted discrimination against gays or lesbians outside of their immediate group, then gone...buh bye.Thats a different story then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: I will say this, the university apparently let other non religious groups freely discriminate and pick/choose their leadership. U cant have that double standard. And frankly...any collegiate group should be able to pick and choose their membership. Imagine an asian group being forced to accept white people into their group.....doesnt make sense. Now if this religious group promoted discrimination against gays or lesbians outside of their immediate group, then gone...buh bye.Thats a different story then. "I will say this, the university apparently let other non religious groups freely discriminate and pick/choose their leadership. U cant have that double standard. And frankly...any collegiate group should be able to pick and choose their membership. Imagine an asian group being forced to accept white people into their group.....doesnt make sense." I think you have it right except I would not call it discrimination that university groups pick and choose their own leadership.In this case the group did not deny the gay student membership (as he apparently was a member) but told him because he rejected views the group believed he could not hold a leadership role in the group. Glad to see the court rule as they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: "I will say this, the university apparently let other non religious groups freely discriminate and pick/choose their leadership. U cant have that double standard. And frankly...any collegiate group should be able to pick and choose their membership. Imagine an asian group being forced to accept white people into their group.....doesnt make sense." I think you have it right except I would not call it discrimination that university groups pick and choose their own leadership.In this case the group did not deny the gay student membership (as he apparently was a member) but told him because he rejected views the group believed he could not hold a leadership role in the group. Glad to see the court rule as they did. I agree with u, it isnt discrimination in this case even slightly. He was even allowed in the group they just didnt let him become a leader......im hinestly flummoxed at what the fuss is. It would be like an lbgt group being punished for not letting a person become their leader who held beleifs tgat they were sinful demon spawn....that would bever happen and the lbgt community would collectively shit themselves in unison all over the country if that happened. Something tells me tho im missing part of the story....as per usual. It feels like another facebook flamebait to get errybody riled up and clicking around fb like mad.....which us what drives fb's ad revenue. We're all being played hard imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 hours ago, cccjwh said: Couldn't be clearer on divorce, eating shellfish and bacon, or praying in public, but you hypocrites just ignored those. Still hearing crickets on this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, BaconHound said: Still hearing crickets on this point. She's available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 17 hours ago, MLD Woody said: They're both genetic Like pedophilia. We could go into all the shit the Bible says but you'll either say it doesn't count or just interpret another way. You've already said you put your religious beliefs abkvd critical thinking so I know this is going no where. People use their religion as protection to discriminate against people they don't like. It's shitty. This is no different. I'm now going to do my best to stay out of here for a bit. Maybe our new friend will go back and forth with the priest and the idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Well, the Federal court disagrees homo's. Go make a fag club somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Like pedophilia. Oh, yeah. Same same. 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Well, the Federal court disagrees homo's. Go make a fag club somewhere. The gay people I know are all quite well off. I would be willing to take some financial advice from the queers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Well, the Federal court disagrees homo's. Go make a fag club somewhere. Why would they when they would have to have members splitting time between the Christian club and the gay club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Shit talking aside, I haven’t met a single gay dude who hasn’t gone through some weird religious guilt phase where they acted like they hated gays. My gay step brother was cartoonishly anti gay and part of a mega church right before he decided he couldn’t surpress his love of Elizabeth Taylor and dick anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Well good thing we have the church to protect us from all of the sexual deviancy of those heathen queers... oh....wait... Houston Chronicle: Abuse of Faith: 20 years, 700 victims; Southern Baptist sexual abuse spreads as leaders resist reforms Evangelicals still hold the moral high ground, though. At least their male pastors are diddling little girls for the most part, unlike those sexually deviant queer Catholic priests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Jesus Steve... How many times do we have to go over the difference on here? Every time that's brought up like some kind of "gotcha"... and it never is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: Jesus Steve... How many times do we have to go over the difference on here? until your tiny vestigial brain is able to grasp it WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Jesus Steve... How many times do we have to go over the difference on here? Every time that's brought up like some kind of "gotcha"... and it never is. Nah, he is just a bigot. Gay men makes him feel funny in his pants, so he has to lash out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: until your tiny vestigial brain is able to grasp it WSS 15 minutes ago, cccjwh said: Nah, he is just a bigot. Gay men makes him feel funny in his pants, so he has to lash out. No he's not a bigot. He just thinks it is some kind of "gotcha" because he doesn't grasp the differences. He really doesn't care one way or another, he just thinks he can hop in an "win" a "debate" when this genetics argument is made. This comes up all of the time, and they never seem to understand. Now if Cal says it he might just be prejudiced and an idiot Where OBF would be willfully ignorant or religiously brainwashed DH would just be trolling, with some level of "eww, gays are weird" in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Now woody is a psychiatrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 10:01 AM, cccjwh said: Couldn't be clearer on divorce, eating shellfish and bacon, or praying in public, but you hypocrites just ignored those. Good thing I don’t subscribe I love me some crab meat salad with bacon. Or lobster bisque with bacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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