nickers Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 This is quit interesting.. I dont have instagram but pictures are shown in the video of Baker out to dinner with Von Miller and OBJ.. Does anyone think either one is worth trading for.. Id go with Miller , myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Is Miller a FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Is Miller a FA? No.. but Elway has said he's open to trading him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 how much is millers contract ? how many years in the league ? what would you have to give up ? I say just stick to the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 yeah Im sure Elway is open to trading him 🙄 we would prob have to give up this year and next years #1 while also taking on his contract..which is, lemme see here.. Current Contract Year Age Base Salary (Guaranteed) Bonuses Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Prorated Roster Workout Other Total $72,500,000 $33,800,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $0 $114,500,000 2016 27 $2,000,000 $8,000,000 $3,400,000 $6,000,000 $0 $0 $11,500,000 7.4% 2017 28 $16,500,000 $16,500,000 $3,400,000 $0 $0 $0 $20,000,000 12.0% 2018 29 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $10,125,000 5.7% 2019 30 $17,000,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $25,125,000 13.2% $19,375,000 $5,750,000 2020 31 $17,500,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $25,625,000 12.8% $11,750,000 $13,875,000 2021 32 $17,500,000 $4,125,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $22,125,000 -- $4,125,000 $18,000,000 And that's why Elway is "open" to trading him. He's gonna be 30 next year. Plus he's a 34 OLB'er, no fit. We can have 2 maybe even 3 FA's that fill his roll and other more pressing roles, for that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: yeah Im sure Elway is open to trading him 🙄 we would prob have to give up this year and next years #1 while also taking on his contract..which is, lemme see here.. Current Contract Year Age Base Salary (Guaranteed) Bonuses Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Prorated Roster Workout Other Total $72,500,000 $33,800,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $0 $114,500,000 2016 27 $2,000,000 $8,000,000 $3,400,000 $6,000,000 $0 $0 $11,500,000 7.4% 2017 28 $16,500,000 $16,500,000 $3,400,000 $0 $0 $0 $20,000,000 12.0% 2018 29 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $10,125,000 5.7% 2019 30 $17,000,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $25,125,000 13.2% $19,375,000 $5,750,000 2020 31 $17,500,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $25,625,000 12.8% $11,750,000 $13,875,000 2021 32 $17,500,000 $4,125,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $22,125,000 -- $4,125,000 $18,000,000 Plus he's a 34 OLB'er, no fit. You must have missed his time in the league before Wade Philips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 OBJ has the talent & only 26 this year- but looking at his contract- yikes!!! take at least a couple first round picks to interest the Giants, and I doubt Dorsey is into drama Queens.... YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER WORKOUT CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2018 25 $1,459,000 $4,000,000 - - $5,459,000 $40,959,000 $21,459,000($21,459,000) 2019 26 $16,750,000 $4,000,000 - $250,000 $21,000,000 $35,500,000 $17,000,000($38,459,000) 2020 27 $14,000,000 $4,000,000 - $250,000 $19,250,000 $14,750,000 $14,250,000($52,709,000) POTENTIAL OUT: 2021, 3 YR, $52,709,000; $8,000,000 DEAD CAP 2021 28 $14,500,000 $4,000,000 $1,000,000 $250,000 $19,750,000 $8,000,000 $15,750,000($68,459,000) 2022 29 $13,750,000 $4,000,000 $1,000,000 $250,000 $19,000,000 $4,000,000 $15,000,000($83,459,000) 2023 30 $13,750,000 - $1,000,000 $250,000 $15,000,000 - $15,000,000($98,459,000) 2024 31 UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Vaya Con Dios to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Maybe we can get Saquon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'm sorry but Baker and Barkley would have been titties doggy. Annnnd we could have gotten Chubb right where we got him anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Y'all realize some players are friends with players of other teams, eight? That celebrating the end of the season is kinda normal? And that, while a 'cleveland is great' got thrown out, none of them has any sway on Dorsey and co.? Sorry to rain on the parade...🤷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, choco said: Y'all realize some players are friends with players of other teams, eight? That celebrating the end of the season is kinda normal? And that, while a 'cleveland is great' got thrown out, none of them has any sway on Dorsey and co.? Sorry to rain on the parade...🤷 No shit Dick Tracy.. But speculation is fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, PoeticG said: I'm sorry but Baker and Barkley would have been titties doggy. Annnnd we could have gotten Chubb right where we got him anyways Why would you take chubb if you had already taken Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, The Gipper said: Why would you take chubb if you had already taken Barkley Which Chubb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Screw OBJ, He is a cry baby bitch plain and simple, fighting the kicking net, then wanting to bone the kicking net, he is always looking for a camera and all he cares about is himself I hate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, medicineman said: Screw OBJ, He is a cry baby bitch plain and simple, fighting the kicking net, then wanting to bone the kicking net, he is always looking for a camera and all he cares about is himself I hate him Make up sex with the kicking net to say he his sorry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, mjp28 said: Which Chubb? Poe wanted Baker Barkley and Nick Chubb in the second round is what he said at least that’s what I thought it said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, PoeticG said: I'm sorry but Baker and Barkley would have been titties doggy. Annnnd we could have gotten Chubb right where we got him anyways And it wouldn't have happened taking Baker #1 overall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 9 hours ago, PoeticG said: I'm sorry but Baker and Barkley would have been titties doggy. Annnnd we could have gotten Chubb right where we got him anyways We could not have gotten both. Which would you rather have baker or Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Neither one of them fits our team. Let's just find our own guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, bjh2130 said: We could not have gotten both. Which would you rather have baker or Barkley Warning...Warning...Abort Mission! Abort Mission!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babernakle Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 If there going to give away a first round pick you go after Antonio brown. As far as free agents go I would go after trey flowers and earl Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Babernakle said: If there going to give away a first round pick you go after Antonio brown. As far as free agents go I would go after trey flowers and earl Thomas Fortunately we're not giving away a first round pick, and certainly not for Antonio Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 hours ago, hoorta said: Fortunately we're not giving away a first round pick, and certainly not for Antonio Brown. There isn't a chance in hell that the Steelers would trade Brown to a AFC North rival, especially the team with the best QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 2:59 PM, tiamat63 said: You must have missed his time in the league before Wade Philips. Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future. Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future. Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for. I'm not arguing in favor of Miller, I don't think it's a fit for reasons i was hoping you wouod mention - we have a promising Will edge rusher in Avery that provides great cost/performance value. Just relating that Miller, despite his current role, is more than capable of finding an impact spot in our current defense... At the expense of a promising rookie snap count however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 They say this upcoming draft is loaded with defensive talent. Von Miller is getting old & Beckham is a girl in disguise. Stick to the draft: LT, WR, DL, CB I believe in Dorsey. He’s respected & coveted around the league & he’s building it for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 11:08 AM, tiamat63 said: I'm not arguing in favor of Miller, I don't think it's a fit for reasons i was hoping you wouod mention - we have a promising I mentioned we already had a spot edge rusher, who else would i have been talking about but Genard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, Clevfan4life said: I mentioned we already had a spot edge rusher, who else would i have been talking about but Genard? Chris Smith comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 11:04 AM, Clevfan4life said: Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. ^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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