CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Some of the biggest names: Jeffery Simmons, DT, MIssissippi State Ed Oliver, DT, Houston Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama Dre’Mont Jones, DL, Ohio State Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/11/21/2019-nfl-draft-defensive-line-pass-rusher-scouting-reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Yep-one of the very best DT classes in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hope Dorsey can get get some stud players this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Is it fair to say that the apparent strength of this draft coincides with one of the Browns biggest needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 hours ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: Some of the biggest names: Jeffery Simmons, DT, MIssissippi State Ed Oliver, DT, Houston Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama Dre’Mont Jones, DL, Ohio State Jerry Tillery, DL, Notre Dame Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/11/21/2019-nfl-draft-defensive-line-pass-rusher-scouting-reports I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today. Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects. Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work. Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players. I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Raekwon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Free agents: Grady Jarrett, DT, Falcons. Age: 26. Grady Jarrett is one of the top 4-3 defensive tackles in the NFL. He's absolutely dominant in the interior, both as a pass rusher and a run stopper. He's turns just 26 in April, so he could continue to improve his game. He's set to earn a huge contract soon. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Vikings. Age: 28. Sheldon Richardson is an extremely talented defensive lineman, playing very strongly in the pass rush and run defense. He can play in both the 4-3 and 3-4, so he should garner tons of interest if he gets to the open market. Michael Pierce (RFA), NT, Ravens. Age: 26. Michael Pierce is an elite run-stuffer. He doesn't generate much of a pass rush, but he's not completely lost in that regard. He's also young, as he won't turn 27 until around Thanksgiving. David Irving, DT, Cowboys. Age: 26 David Irving was dominant down the stretch in 2016, and he proved that wasn't a fluke the year after. He was limited to just eight games because of a concussion and a suspension, but he was terrific in those eight contests, registering seven sacks, which is a high number for a player at his position in a full 16-game slate. Irving barely played in 2018 because of injury. However, he's just 26 in August, so he should continue to improve his game. Muhammad Wilkerson, DE/DT, Packers. Age:29 From 2012 to 2015, Muhammad Wilkerson was considered a top-five 3-4 defensive end. It could've even been argued that he was the second-best player at his position in the entire league, behind only J.J. Watt. Wilkerson was rewarded with a 5-year, $87 million deal in the summer of 2016. Wilkerson mailed it in after that, then was cut. Wilkerson joined the Packers and played very well for three games before suffering a season-ending injury. Wilkerson isn't 30 yet, so he could continue to play on a high level for a team that has a strong locker room. http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019DT.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 I would love to see Grady and a draft pick to help on the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 What defensive scheme will we be running next year? 4-3, 3-4 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, Orion said: What defensive scheme will we be running next year? 4-3, 3-4 ?? 43 Under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value. People seem to forget that on this board.. We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do.. Each of the FA come with questions. Wilkerson doesn't care about football.. Pierce is basically Snacks Harrison v2.0 .. Can Irving be injury-free.. The others will be tagged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, tiamat63 said: 43 Under. How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Orion said: How do you know that? I don't. I'm just being a smart ass and suggesting something that would appease both crowds of speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Orion said: What defensive scheme will we be running next year? 4-3, 3-4 ?? They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: Remember, there's no reason any FA is required to pick Cleveland even if we offer an appropriate value. People seem to forget that on this board.. We offered more cash to Schwartz than KC but he still chose to leave.. and people viewed that as a failure of the FO even though there was nothing they could do.. Cmon man! That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: Cmon man! That was years ago! Before the 1 win in 2 years. Sounds like Schwartz had some sense at the time. Schwartz wanted to stay here, but the front office in charge at the time low-balled him and refused to budge... by the time they did, Schwartz basically told them to go piss up a rope. Trust me, Doug Dieken brings this up on the regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 19 hours ago, Louisville Slugger said: I've only watched a handful of games on each if these guys, but this is how I see them as of today. Simmons, Brown, and Oliver are top notch prospects. Williams, Tillery, and Jones have special talent but need work. Wilkins, Lawerence, and Davis feel like they benefited from the other talent on their lines. They feel more like rotational/role players. I think Gary is a DE/ edge rusher I think Gary will shift inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: They're not converting myles to.a full.time standup olb'er.....otherwise u can just trade him now cause he's off to dallas as soon as his rookie contract is up. Seeing as he's the best player on the def, im gonna predict we stay in a base 43. We'd franchise him before we let that happen. But I also agree we are likely to stay 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: I think Gary will shift inside Could play all over. Weak side end in a over front, interior, base end. He's another player you have to move around a bit for maximum effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 23 hours ago, The Gipper said: Is it fair to say that the apparent strength of this draft coincides with one of the Browns biggest needs? And the draft capital to get the one they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Orion said: What defensive scheme will we be running next year? 4-3, 3-4 ?? How can anyone know....since we won't know who our DC will be? If they do not keep Williams as HC...then everything is up in the air. Fair to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I think Gary will shift inside Another Michifucker without a true position to play? Can't we get a real player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Another Michifucker without a true position to play? Can't we get a real player? *crickets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: *crickets* Exactly....all these Michitweeners who can't really fill a position? All chirp...no chomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Saw a few tweets relative to this thread. Edge rushers aren’t going anywhere of course but thought it was interesting nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Taking away interior pressure is a different animal and incredibly difficult to do as opposed to edge defenders. When you face somebody that strong, fast, technique sound and moves all over the formation.... It's the most challenging thing for a QB because they have no pocket to step up into. You generally have to win with either talent or adjusting your passing and running game to slow down that first step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realplayer Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 I think Dre' Mont Jones would be a great pick. Dorsey doesn't seem to mind bringing in buckeyes. He looked good with Bosa. Garrett, Jones, Ojunobi and Ogbah would be nasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 20 hours ago, AP1 said: And the draft capital to get the one they want. There are enough that we probably don't need to move up, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, ballpeen said: There are enough that we probably don't need to move up, but who knows? But if it's White we want from LSU as ILB as our 1st-it will require a moveup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Jeffrey Simmons, the first prospect on the list from Mississippi State, looks like an athletic force in the middle. Derrick Brown from Auburn, who looks as much like a freak LB as he does a lineman, made some impressive plays for the Tigers: Quinnen Williams, apparently a “the best d-lineman and top 3 draft pick “ Christian Wilkins: this guy can flat out play, and looks similar to Quinnen Williams with his size and athleticism. Dexter Lawrence, at 6’5”, 350, is just a brick wall to insert into the lineup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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