hoorta Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I fail to see anything about what I said as inacurate or over the top. Would you rather go back to Kizer or Kessler? That's what it came across as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 I'm hoping we are on the verge of a Kosar-era run of contention. This team now reminds me of the Browns in the second half of 1984 and the 1985 season. They've moved on from the nightmare of seasons past (the '84 team started 1-7 resulting in Sam Rutigliano getting fired) and can play with almost everyone, but are still thin in spots, which gets exposed against top-tier teams. The Browns kept adding talent and in 1986 they became a Super Bowl contender. If I'm right, we'll still have days like this coming up, but better days are on the horizon, gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, hoorta said: Would you rather go back to Kizer or Kessler? That's what it came across as. Not at all. Perhaps it is you being overdramatic about what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: The fact of the matter is that Kitchens did not try to throw into well covered WRs like Baker was doing in the first half. That was on Baker. He was trying to hit it through windows that were not even there. While it is true that a seasoned qb wouldnt have thrown some of those passes, its also invumbent on an OC to recognize his rookie qb is getting gamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: While it is true that a seasoned qb wouldnt have thrown some of those passes, its also invumbent on an OC to recognize his rookie qb is getting gamed. Baker took responsibility for not getting the ball out earlier on those throws and says they didn't really have to change the game plan, that he just needed to execute it better which he did in the second half. He took full responsibility for not getting the passes intercepted out on time as is called for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said: Baker took responsibility for not getting the ball out earlier on those throws and says they didn't really have to change the game plan, that he just needed to execute it better which he did in the second half. He took full responsibility for not getting the passes intercepted out on time as is called for. I thought the issue was he was having to get the ball out faster because of the pressure, even the announcers remarjed on that. Th3 gameplan for the texans secondary was obviously jumping specific routes knowing that baker has to throw early. The 3rd interception tho, that was "all" on baker, he tried to force that one into the endzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said: I thought the issue was he was having to get the ball out faster because of the pressure, even the announcers remarjed on that. Th3 gameplan for the texans secondary was obviously jumping specific routes knowing that baker has to throw early. The 3rd interception tho, that was "all" on baker, he tried to force that one into the endzone. Go watch the Baker presser on the 3rd page of this thread and then decide what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Go watch the Baker presser on the 3rd page of this thread and then decide what you think. Ok justvwatched, maybe i have to go back and rewatch the picks cause it looked like he had gotten rid of the ball before the wr made his break....so it seemed to be in that correct timing window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Still a little thin for talent. But at least they looked like they belong. Better practice is starting to show but can’t overcome all the damage caused by hue. Should be a legit playoff contender next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 hours ago, hoorta said: Yeah, let's get rid of Landry 6 catches for 103 yards. He sucks. Chubb had 31 yards rushing today, might as well dump him too. Fire Williams, fire everybody. Buy a clue dude, we flat got outclassed. So get real. I'm sure you were kidding me. Sure, Lincoln Riley is the magic elixir that's going to turn us into a Super Bowl team. The penalties happened because we were playing a team with better talent. Ward goes out with a concussion, and Carrie gets called for holding two plays in a row. And Hopkins gets away with offensive pass interference on about every play. 14 hours ago, hoorta said: Yeah, let's get rid of Landry 6 catches for 103 yards. He sucks. Chubb had 31 yards rushing today, might as well dump him too. Fire Williams, fire everybody. Buy a clue dude, we flat got outclassed. So get real. I'm sure you were kidding me. Sure, Lincoln Riley is the magic elixir that's going to turn us into a Super Bowl team. The penalties happened because we were playing a team with better talent. Ward goes out with a concussion, and Carrie gets called for holding two plays in a row. And Hopkins gets away with offensive pass interference on about every play. 14 hours ago, hoorta said: Yeah, let's get rid of Landry 6 catches for 103 yards. He sucks. Chubb had 31 yards rushing today, might as well dump him too. Fire Williams, fire everybody. Buy a clue dude, we flat got outclassed. So get real. I'm sure you were kidding me. Sure, Lincoln Riley is the magic elixir that's going to turn us into a Super Bowl team. The penalties happened because we were playing a team with better talent. Ward goes out with a concussion, and Carrie gets called for holding two plays in a row. And Hopkins gets away with offensive pass interference on about every play. so who do you want.....some old fart like arians or mccarthy....yeah right......i think riley would be a good fit...he's young sure, but what the hell...and as far as landry....how many td's does he have this yr....he is a loudmouth who thinks he is jerry rice...that is my issue with him....because he is just another mediocre wr in this league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, browns52 said: so who do you want.....some old fart like arians or mccarthy....yeah right......i think riley would be a good fit...he's young sure, but what the hell...and as far as landry....how many td's does he have this yr....he is a loudmouth who thinks he is jerry rice...that is my issue with him....because he is just another mediocre wr in this league... And who you going to want in the likely event Riley doesn't want to leave Oklahoma? Regarding Landry, he wasn't brought in here to be a #1 Julio Jones wr. That was supposed to be Josh Gordon's job - until he screwed up again. He's the best possession reciever in the NFL, with great hands. Coming off a 0-16 season, we had to overpay for talent. Or would you rather have a hands of stone Corey Coleman instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, hoorta said: And who you going to want in the likely event Riley doesn't want to leave Oklahoma? Regarding Landry, he wasn't brought in here to be a #1 Julio Jones wr. That was supposed to be Josh Gordon's job - until he screwed up again. He's the best possession reciever in the NFL, with great hands. Coming off a 0-16 season, we had to overpay for talent. Or would you rather have a hands of stone Corey Coleman instead. I thought Landry was nothing short of spectacular yesterday. Like you said, we don't have that "Josh Gordon" type player, and if we did, Landry would be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted December 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Some of these guys just don’t like Landry, I’ve noticed. Kinda sad because he is the one who brings the toughness mindset to the receiving corps. Oh well, BLESS EM’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Landry made a crazy spectacular one-handed Grab on one of those catches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Landry made a crazy spectacular one-handed Grab on one of those catches Did you see the one that Perriman hauled in? It was nice too, especially for a guy who's knock was bad hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 9 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: I thought Landry was nothing short of spectacular yesterday. Like you said, we don't have that "Josh Gordon" type player, and if we did, Landry would be even better. Even when we had Josh Gordon, we barely ever had "that Josh Gordon type player".... 😣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, jcam222 said: Did you see the one that Perriman hauled in? It was nice too, especially for a guy who's knock was bad hands. All that guy has done is catch every pass and block well down the field. I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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