OldBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 If Mueller had anything legitimate on Trump and Russia collusion I don't believe he would be trying to set Trump up for a perjury trap. Since he doesn't have anything he will take a process crime or anything else to try to justify the tens of millions dollars spent on his witch hunt. Dershowitz: Mueller 'Tried to Spring a Perjury Trap' on Trump It was a "very smart decision" for President Donald Trump to answer special counsel Robert Mueller's questions in writing rather than in person, Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Wednesday, as the former FBI director had tried to get the president to perjure himself. "A president can't obstruct justice by exercising his constitutional authority to fire, to pardon, anything of that kind," Dershowitz said. "The president should not answer questions about how or why he exercised his constitutional authority. Clearly, Mueller had tried to spring a perjury trap," Dershowitz told Fox News' "Fox and Friends." https://www.newsmax.com/politics/dershowitz-trump-mueller-probe/2018/11/21/id/891505/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 I believe Muellers report will show evidence of some Russian meddling but this really should not be any surprise as we knew it already. If any good comes of the Mueller report I think it will be to show to what extent the Russians did meddle in the 2016 election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Perjury trap, over wise known as being caught lying under oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Of Course There Is Such a Thing as a ‘Perjury Trap https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/trump-perjury-trap-legitimate-concern-reason-to-decline-mueller-interview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 What a crock, like the Dems are one bit concerned about meddling in an election. I guess it’s okay when they’re doing the meddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: Of Course There Is Such a Thing as a ‘Perjury Trap https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/trump-perjury-trap-legitimate-concern-reason-to-decline-mueller-interview/ Right, because truth isn't truth. If you want to say that President Trump’s lawyers are just making excuses for a client who is prone to lie without being trapped, that is a cogent legal argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 sad. we now have a woodpeCCCker on the board that makes woody look halfway to normal liberal human being. A woody split personality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: What a crock, like the Dems are one bit concerned about meddling in an election. I guess it’s okay when they’re doing the meddling. I put a lot of the blame on Jeff Sessions. He was a horrible choice by Trump to be AG and was in over his head at the DOJ. He did not have to recuse himself from the Russia investigation (but did anyway) and refused to appoint another special counsel to look into Obama's DOJ and FBI. I found it amazing that a republican congress would get stonewalled from getting subpoenaed documents by a DOJ run by a republican appointed AG but that was how weak and ineffective Sessions was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Perjury traps are especially useful if the subject has not committed the crime and you want to find something to nail him on. It can be as simple as not remembering something exactly from years ago to something the person really wants to keep Secret. See Clinton, William... But Democrats and their stooge Mueller don't really care about collusion. By the way I don't care about it even if it happened. Nobody revealed anything that wasn't true. Did Hillary's and the dnc's dirty tricks change your vote? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Did Hillary's and the dnc's dirty tricks change your vote? The Dems overlook that little ditty, then look silly when they try to take the moral high ground when it comes to elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/index.html FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 FBI Says the Democratic Party Wouldn't Let Agents See the Hacked ... https://www.wired.com/.../fbi-says-democratic-party-wouldnt-let-agents-see-hacked-e... Jan 5, 2017 - On that point the DNC and FBI agree that the hack happened. ... to the investigation says FBI didn't need the DNC servers because it already ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 yikes. https://dailycaller.com/2017/06/24/crowdstrike-five-things-everyone-is-ignoring-about-the-russia-dnc-story/ The Democratic Party and mainstream media have become increasingly consumed with the narrative that Donald Trump’s election win is largely influenced by Russian hacking. The narrative is centered around two hacks–the hack of a DNC server that led to the release of embarrassing emails during the Democratic National Convention, and the hack of John Podesta’s email which led to several embarrassing moments for the Clinton campaign in October 2016. Both are supposedly the result of the Russians. The Russia story is back in the headlines once again after reports surrounding former President Barack Obama’s attempts to “punish” Russia for its interference. However, there is still a cloud of doubt hanging over the DNC’s Russia narrative on the breach of the DNC servers. The analysis that alleged that Russia was behind the DNC server breach was carried out not by the U.S. government, but by the private security group CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike is the sole source of this claim, with their June 2016 report, “Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Committee” being the basis of the DNC’s Russian hacking allegations. Here are five key points about CrowdStrike that the mainstream media is ignoring: 1. Obama Appoints CrowdStrike Officer To Admin Post Two Months Before June 2016 Report On Russia Hacking DNC In April 2016, two months before the June report that alleged a Russian conspiracy, former President Barack Obama appointed Steven Chabinsky, the general counsel and chief risk officer for CrowdStrike, to the Commission on Enhancing National Cybersecurity. CrowdStrike co-founder George Kurtz said at the time, “We wish Steve and the rest of the Commissioners every success in this important effort. Their dedicated and thoughtful leadership on these issues holds great potential for promoting innovation and the benefits of technology, while lowering the very real security risks we are facing today.” 2. The FBI Never Looked At The DNC’s Servers — Only CrowdStrike Did As far as we know, the FBI still has not examined the DNC server that Russia allegedly hacked. There has been no corroboration or second opinion on who may have hacked the server. The only source for this claim is CrowdStrike, who began monitoring the DNC system on May 5th, 2016, according to DailyMail.com. The DNC also reportedly paid $168,000 to CrowdStrike. 3. Comey Contradicted The DNC’s Story On The FBI Asking To See The Server The DNC claimed in January that the reason the FBI never examined their hacked server was simple–the FBI never requested to do so. Yet, DNC deputy communications director Eric Walker gave told BuzzFeed News in an email, “The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI’s Cyber Division and its Washington (DC) Field Office, the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, and U.S. Attorney’s Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers.” However, this claim was contradicted by then-FBI director James Comey, who said in a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing in January that there were “multiple requests at different levels” to look at the DNC’s servers. Instead, Comey said a “highly respected private company” got access to the servers–meaning CrowdStrike. A senior FBI official told WIRED in January, “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated.” “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.” As Josephine Wolff of Slate pointed out, “…whether because they were denied access or simply never asked for it, the FBI instead used the analysis of the DNC breach conducted by security firm CrowdStrike as the basis for its investigation. Regardless of who is telling the truth about what really happened, perhaps the most astonishing thing about this probe is that a private firm’s investigation and attribution was deemed sufficient by both the DNC and the FBI.” 4. CrowdStrike Co-Founder Is Fellow On Russia Hawk Group, Has Connections To George Soros, Ukrainian Billionaire Co-Founder and CTO of CrowdStrike Dmitri Alperovitch is a nonresident senior fellow on the Atlantic Council. The Atlantic Council is hawkish on Russia, previously publishing reports about topics like how the West can “get tougher” on Russia, how to “fight back Against Russian political warfare,” how to respond “to Russia’s Anti-Western Aggression.” Other articles are titled, “From Russia with Hate: The Kremlin’s Support for Violent Extremism in Central Europe” and “Here’s Why You Should Worry About Russian Propaganda.” In one article published by the Atlantic Council, writer Stephen Blank claims that Russia is a more urgent security threat than terrorism. Further, the Atlantic Council is funded by NATO, enhancing the hawkish view on Russia. The Atlantic Council is also funded by the “Open Society Initiative for Europe,” a program of leftist billionaire George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. The Open Society Initiative for Europe has written that they support, “initiatives that strengthen the protection of migrants and the politics of inclusion, giving the leading role and voice in advocating policies and social change to migrants and refugees, their descendants, and their allies in civil society.” The Atlantic Council is also funded by the Victor Pinchuk Foundation. Pinchuk is a Ukrainian billionaire who reportedly gave $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, and was invited to Clinton’s home for a dinner in 2012 while she was secretary of state, despite an earlier denial from a Clinton spokesperson that “never on her schedule” during her time as Secretary. 5. CrowdStrike Is Funded By Clinton-Loving Google $$ Finally, it’s worth pointing out that CrowdStrike received $100 million in investments led by Google Capital (since re-branded as CapitalG) in 2015. CapitalG is owned by Alphabet, and Eric Schmidt, Alphabet’s chairman, was a supporter of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. More than just supporting Clinton, leaked emails from Wikileaks in November 2016 showed that in 2014 he wanted to have an active role in the campaign. According to the Wall Street Journal, Schmidt “sent a Clinton campaign official a lengthy memo with advice on running the campaign. He told campaign officials he was ‘ready to fund, advise recruit talent,’ and ‘clearly wants to be head outside advisor,’ according to a 2014 email from Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta to campaign manager Robby Mook.” And Politico reported in November 2016 that Schmidt “served in a personal capacity as an adviser to the Clinton operation,” and wore a “staff” badge at her election night party. Schmidt also funded a startup called, “The Groundwork.” An article in Quartz titled, “The stealthy, Eric Schmidt-backed startup that’s working to put Hillary Clinton in the White House,” details its operations. “The Groundwork, according to Democratic campaign operatives and technologists, is part of efforts by Schmidt—the executive chairman of Google parent-company Alphabet—to ensure that Clinton has the engineering talent needed to win the election,” the article says. “And it is one of a series of quiet investments by Schmidt that recognize how modern political campaigns are run, with data analytics and digital outreach as vital ingredients that allow candidates to find, court, and turn out critical voter blocs.” The post also calls Schmidt “one of the most powerful donors in the Democratic Party.” There are other connections between Google money and the Democratic Party. Stephanie Hannon, former Director of Product Management for Google, left in 2015 to become Hillary Clinton’s Chief Technology Officer for her 2016 campaign. (h/t Breitbart News) Follow Justin on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 so crowdstrike guy gets job in obaMao's corrupt regime. crowdstrike has big connections to ...dangerous dirtbag george soros. DNC says russians hacked their server, but will NOT let the FBI have access to it. But, they give crowdstrike access because crowdstrike is friendly and they can control what is said and admitted. can these flaming liberals forget about Pres Trump's orange skin for a bit, here? eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/index.html FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers Jesus this stupidity still? They gave them images of all the servers. There is no need to give up the physical servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 5 hours ago, cccjwh said: Right, because truth isn't truth. If you want to say that President Trump’s lawyers are just making excuses for a client who is prone to lie without being trapped, that is a cogent legal argument. Yep-he couldn't even keep from lying to his own legal team when put through the trial wringer he might face in person with Mueller. The thing about chronic pathological liars is that they tell so many so often that they can't remember which lie they told last to whom about any given subject or event. He fails miserably just as expected. You know he always wanted to pretend to be an Honest Abe!🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 7 hours ago, cccjwh said: Perjury trap, over wise known as being caught lying under oath. Be quiet sonny. Go nigh nigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Yep-he couldn't even keep from lying to his own legal team when put through the trial wringer he might face in person with Mueller. The thing about chronic pathological liars is that they tell so many so often that they can't remember which lie they told last to whom about any given subject or event. He fails miserably just as expected. You know he always wanted to pretend to be an Honest Abe!🤣 So you think Mueller is going to have evidence of obstruction? I doubt it. I doubt he has anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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