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I liked what the late Charles Krauthammer said: "I'm not a global warming believer. I'm not a global warming denier. I'm a global warming agnostic who believes instinctively that it can't be very good to pump lots of CO2 into the atmosphere but is equally convinced that those who presume to know exactly where that leads are talking through their hats."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/18/krauthammer_on_global_warming_the_president_pretends_that_this_is_all_settled_science.html

http://insider.foxnews.com/2014/02/25/environmentalists-try-silence-charles-krauthammer-climate-change

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I left Wyoming because global cooling resided there one winter with 120 inches of snow for the year and a -26 degrees with 50 mph winds one night. Holy chit that was fkn cold and it took me a week to shovel the 30 inches one storm left with drifts up to the top of the front of the garage. Had to wait for the streets to melt down because Cheyenne didn't have enough snow removal equipment to handle all the sidestreets with that much snow. I could not even see my back fence other than a huge white "hill" that went across in a straight line.

However Neither Cheyenne nor Boston in isolation prove anything about global temps rising or falling. But that winter was enough "proof" for this Texan to run through Dodge on the way back to Texas. Don't get me wrong. I loved snowshoeing in the mountains. But just not to work.

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CLIMATE
  Cleveland, OH Minneapolis, MN United States
 Rainfall (in.) 40 32 39
 Snowfall (in.) 61 53 26
 Precipitation Days 91 64 102
 Sunny Days 166 198 205
 Avg. July High 81 84 86
 Avg. Jan. Low 21 7 23
 Comfort Index (higher=better) 55 42 54
 UV Index 3.7 3.1 4.3
 Elevation ft. 640 854 1443

 

 

CLIMATE
  Cleveland, OH Cheyenne, WY United States
 Rainfall (in.) 40 16 39
 Snowfall (in.) 61 59 26
 Precipitation Days 91 41 102
 Sunny Days 166 236 205
 Avg. July High 81 83 86
 Avg. Jan. Low 21 17 23
 Comfort Index (higher=better) 55 68 54
 UV Index 3.7 4.7 4.3
 Elevation ft. 640 6088 1443
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nobody is confusing anything. Weather is more immediate, climate is over a long period of time, triple c (woodpeCCCker).

cli·mate
/ˈklīmit/
noun
noun: climate; plural noun: climates
  1. the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.
    "our cold, wet climate"
    synonyms: weather conditions, weather;
    atmospheric conditions
    "the mild climate"
    • a region with particular prevailing weather conditions.
      "vacationing in a warm climate"
      synonyms: region, area, zone, country, place;
      literaryclime
      "they come from a colder climate"

 

 

 

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therefore, sassy retort triple c, here ya go

Just for the City of Cleveland. It's in Ohio. So, if any mmgw wonk can find a mmgw trend here, I'm fine with listening.Otherwise, put up or hush up. Have a nice day.

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Record Information Last Updated: 11/28/2017

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Day January February March April May June
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4 -7 1879 -10 1996 0 2014 19 1971 28 1971 40 1947
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then there is the time the ice age melted away, while the glaciers moved and melted....

I suppose Cleveland was putting out too much CO2 at the time, eh?

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2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

I left Wyoming because global cooling resided there one winter with 120 inches of snow for the year and a -26 degrees with 50 mph winds one night. Holy chit that was fkn cold and it took me a week to shovel the 30 inches one storm left with drifts up to the top of the front of the garage. Had to wait for the streets to melt down because Cheyenne didn't have enough snow removal equipment to handle all the sidestreets with that much snow. I could not even see my back fence other than a huge white "hill" that went across in a straight line.

However Neither Cheyenne nor Boston in isolation prove anything about global temps rising or falling. But that winter was enough "proof" for this Texan to run through Dodge on the way back to Texas. Don't get me wrong. I loved snowshoeing in the mountains. But just not to work.

My sister lived in Oklahoma when I was in the Navy in the 70's and I took a bus to visit her from San Diego in the summertime. First of all I found out how big Texas was when our bus went through and it made stops every 20 -30 miles or so and second the global warming was terrible in that region even back in the 70's. I quit complaining about Ohio weather after experiencing that heat.

BTW - although I wouldn't want to live there I have to say the weather in southern California cannot be beat anywhere IMO.

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My sister lived in Oklahoma when I was in the Navy in the 70's and I took a bus to visit her from San Diego in the summertime. First of all I found out how big Texas was when our bus went through and it made stops every 20 -30 miles or so and second the global warming was terrible in that region even back in the 70's. I quit complaining about Ohio weather after experiencing that heat.

This summer when we drove through Stratford in the panhandle, it was 111 degrees with a 20-30 mph wind. Now that there is hot even for me.🌡️😈

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about ten years ago, we went on a cruise with about a dozen friends. Got to Miami, got off the bus, and it was like

walking on the sun. It was so hot asphalt melted and they had to put up boards for people to walk on. Tennis shoes got too hot if you

stood in one place for too many seconds. It was like being on another planet.

   In-laws lived in McKinney Texas all our years, going down there wasn't too bad, sometimes. Getting all sweaty after getting out of the car, after driving to Dallas (about 45 minutes to an hour) and going into air conditioning was crap. Then driving to Ft Worth to see the sights...seemed like we were driving to California. Not my kind of place.

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oh, ignorant twit one, years ago, we've posted charts and graphs. There is evidence to both sides. The trouble is - it's only your side that has cherry picked, blackballed (UN reference), been guilty of flagrant fraud (tree ring scandal), and politically motivated belligerence, AND deliberately twisted data to produce the intended results, etc etc.

   Therefore, the science is tainted all over the place, and many experts around the world strongly disagree that the real evidence is conclusive.

   So, it is not proven fact. Take your side all you want. But UN people have admitted that redistribution of global wealth is hopeless unless mmgw becomes globally accepted.

  yeah. Go shove it.

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oh, ignorant twit one, years ago, we've posted charts and graphs. There is evidence to both sides. The trouble is - it's only your side that has cherry picked, blackballed (UN reference), been guilty of flagrant fraud (tree ring scandal), and politically motivated belligerence, AND deliberately twisted data to produce the intended results, etc etc.

   Therefore, the science is tainted all over the place, and many experts around the world strongly disagree that the real evidence is conclusive.

   So, it is not proven fact. Take your side all you want. But UN people have admitted that redistribution of global wealth is hopeless unless mmgw becomes globally accepted.

  yeah. Go shove it.

So you aren't going to answer the questions? 

 

 

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Nov 28, 2009 - Climategate won't make global warming go away ... and Gavin Schmidt, right-hand man to Al Gore's ally Dr James Hansen, whose own GISS ...
Feb 7, 2015 - When future generations look back on the global-warming scare of ... First these were made by the US government's Global Historical Climate ...
100% of real scientist knows there's no man made global warming, cause, if you can't empirical show ..... (Too many sources and links for that whole scandal).
Nov 23, 2011 - ... Forbes 400 · America's Richest Self-Made Women · China's Richest ... Climategate 2.0: New E-Mails Rock The Global Warming Debate ... two years to the day after similar emails ignited the Climategate scandal. ... to Penn State University scientist Michael Mann in an email released in Climategate 1.0.
Jul 25, 2011 - James Delingpole's new book exposes man-made global warming as a fraud ... scandal, in which he analyzed e-mails among leading climate ...
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so, since you aren't edumacated enuff, I post article fer yu.

https://www.nas.org/articles/Estimated_40_Percent_of_Scientists_Doubt_Manmade_Global_Warming

 

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Estimated 40 Percent of Scientists Doubt Manmade Global Warming

PRINCETON, NJ (January 3, 2011)—S. Fred Singer said in an interview with the National Association of Scholars (NAS) that “the number of skeptical qualified scientists has been growing steadily; I would guess it is about 40% now.”

Singer, a leading scientific skeptic of anthropocentric global warming (AGW), is an atmospheric physicist, and founder of the Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP), an organization that began challenging the published findings of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in the 1990s. SEPP established the Leipzig Declaration, a statement of dissent from the 1997 Kyoto Protocol that has been signed by over one hundred scientists and meteorologists.

Asked what he would like to see happen in regard to public opinion and policy on climate change, Singer replied,

I would like to see the public look upon global warming as just another scientific controversy and oppose any public policies until the major issues are settled, such as the cause. If mostly natural, as NIPCC concludes, then the public policies currently discussed are pointless, hugely expensive, and wasteful of resources that could better be applied to real societal problems.

NIPCC is the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change, another group established by Singer. In 2009 NIPCC published Climate Change Reconsidered,an 880-page report on scientific research that contradicts the models of man-made global warming. Singer believes that global warming exists but that human contributions to it are minimal. In the interview Singer said he believed his efforts in the last twenty years had been successful in disproving the notion that “the science is settled.”

Singer continues his work in the sciences, focusing lately on geophysical research and the Earth’s atmosphere. He is professor emeritus of environmental science at the University  of Virginia, and he was the founding Dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences at the University of Miami (1964-1967) and the Director of the Center for Atmospheric and Space Physics University of Maryland (1953-1962).

The National Association of Scholars does not take a position on global warming but advocates for a full discussion of all sides of the controversy.To learn more about NAS, visit www.nas.org.

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https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/10/07/scientist-carbon-dioxide-doesnt-cause-global-warming

By Paul Bedard, Washington Whispers

A noted geologist who coauthored the New York Times bestseller Sugar Busters has turned his attention to convincing Congress that carbon dioxide emissions are good for the Earth and don't cause global warming. Leighton Steward is on Capitol Hill this week armed with studies and his book Fire, Ice and Paradise in a bid to show senators working on the energy bill that the carbon dioxide cap-and-trade scheme could actually hurt the environment by reducing CO2 levels.

"I'm trying to kill the whole thing," he says. "We are tilting at windmills." He is meeting with several GOP lawmakers and has plans to meet with some Democrats later this week.

Much of the global warming debate has focused on reducing CO2 emissions because it is thought that the greenhouse gas produced mostly from fossil fuels is warming the planet. But Steward, who once believed CO2 caused global warming, is trying to fight that with a mountain of studies and scientific evidence that suggest CO2 is not the cause for warming. What's more, he says CO2 levels are so low that more, not less, is needed to sustain and expand plant growth.

Trying to debunk theories that higher CO2 levels cause warming, he cites studies that show CO2 levels following temperature spikes, prompting him to back other scientists who say that global warming is caused by solar activity.

In taking on lawmakers pushing for a cap-and-trade plan to deal with emissions, Steward tells Whispers that he's worried that the legislation will result in huge and unneeded taxes. Worse, if CO2 levels are cut, he warns, food production will slow because plants grown at higher CO2 levels make larger fruit and vegetables and also use less water. He also said that higher CO2 levels are not harmful to humans. As an example, he said that Earth's atmosphere currently has about 338 parts per million of CO2 and that in Navy subs, the danger level for carbon dioxide isn't reached until the air has 8,000 parts per million of CO2.

Steward is part of a nonprofit group called Plants Need CO2 that is funding pro-CO2 ads in two states represented by two key lawmakers involved in the energy debate: Montana's Sen. Max Baucus and New Mexico's Sen. Jeff Bingaman.

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Want your Whispers first? Check out U.S. News Weekly.

 

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so you are going to woodypeckerhead one liner smug stupid retorts to show how "smart" you are on the subject?

just another mmgw bluff called.

Prove your own point, joint. and grow up a lot.

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so you are going to woodypeckerhead one liner smug stupid retorts to show how "smart" you are on the subject?

just another mmgw bluff called.

Prove your own point, joint. and grow up a lot.

Reply to a post with childish name calling and ends it with "grow up a lot". 🤣

 

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yet, very accurate name calling. It's what you do that is your problem. You attack, but you can't

defend your political word game retorts. You got nothin.

Have a nice day in school, obey your teacher.

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There's a much older one of these (threads), but this has some pretty good graphs.

 

Hits still coming.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6430691/Ocean-circulation-North-Atlantic-weakest-1-500-years-trigger-Ice-Age.html

 

Fits with this posted in the older thread about Sun Spot activity :

 

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There is another Report I saw somewhere the last week or so that points out some errors in the Hypothesis.

 

 

How about an old time classic ? :

 

 

 

 

 

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Did you guys read the article or the study? I'm guessing you really don't understand what climate change means?

"The research, co-led by Drs. Christelle Not and Benoit Thibodeau from the Department of Earth Sciences and the Swire Institute of Marine Science, The University of Hong Kong, is interpreted to be a direct consequence of global warming and associated melt of the Greenland Ice-Sheet."...

Many climate models predicted a weakening, or even a collapse of this branch of the circulation under global warming, partly due to the release of freshwater from Greenland Ice-Sheet. 

This freshwater has lower density than salty water and thus prevents the formation of deep water, slowing down the whole circulation. 

 

 

 

 

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Did you guys read the article or the study? I'm guessing you really don't understand what climate change means?

"The research, co-led by Drs. Christelle Not and Benoit Thibodeau from the Department of Earth Sciences and the Swire Institute of Marine Science, The University of Hong Kong, is interpreted to be a direct consequence of global warming and associated melt of the Greenland Ice-Sheet."...

Many climate models predicted a weakening, or even a collapse of this branch of the circulation under global warming, partly due to the release of freshwater from Greenland Ice-Sheet. 

This freshwater has lower density than salty water and thus prevents the formation of deep water, slowing down the whole circulation. 

 

 

 

 

 

Like "The Day After Tomorrow" ?

 

It's called soft disclosure, and there is a lot more of it than people realize in the Media.

 

Maybe that's why Mr. Climate Change Al Gore bought the Beach front Mansion   .   .   .   a sacrificial write off ?

Or when MS(NBC) bought that space in NYC back in the 90's after they reported NYC was going to be under water in 10 years - Head count reduction ?

 

Anyway, if you dig through some graphs and earlier threads here you can see there's an extremely high correlation to Sun Spots and Climate/Temperature.

 

Mankind is a trivial blip.

Doesn't help when a lot of Monitoring Stations happen to be in areas that have continued development (Asphalt etc), or with the falsified data (remember those reports from a few years back?).

 

I know you and others here like to bust my chops - that's fine, things will change.

Don't buy the Globalist Bullshit, they say one thing and do another - they have an objective and it's not for the betterment of the general Population.

 

Climate will rise and fall - through the same reasoning, did we cause the last "Mini Ice Age" ?

Did Mammoths freeze or drown ?

 

Mysteries abound   .   .   .  

 

 

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So the usual it'a a conspiracy, all the scientists are in cahoots. No, it's mini ice age for Europe and parts of North America. From your own article.

Winters were bitterly cold and summers were often cool and wet. These conditions led to widespread crop failure, famine, and population decline. There were increased levels of social unrest as large portions of the population were reduced to starvation and poverty.

As for Mr. Wizard. If you spent 5 minutes looking it up. You would have found out that 95% of the ice on earth is on land. (Not floating). But you aren't really interesting in facts or the truth in general. 

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