medicineman Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 6:51 PM, The Gipper said: Browns were 2 and 14 in 1999 now they are 3-6-1 after 10 games. they are better by 1.5 games already I meant by building a team. We have players but have no team. We need guys who been together for 3 or more seasons together, build a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 5:57 AM, medicineman said: What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT. damn dude go root for buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 16 hours ago, ATOM said: damn dude go root for buffalo I been a Browns fan for decades pal, Just being real. What good is any award if you didn't win? It is the same as a trophy the losing team gets in school so they don't feel left out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, medicineman said: I been a Browns fan for decades pal, Just being real. What good is any award if you didn't win? It is the same as a trophy the losing team gets in school so they don't feel left out Congratulations! You have won the BB Participation Award 🥇 . Wear it proudly to the next game.🕵️♀️😹 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 4:25 PM, medicineman said: Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999. Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB? maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB? maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves. No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 58 minutes ago, medicineman said: I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 If we're doing decent without a #1 even though we pay someone like a #1 then... we don't need one. We have too many actual needs on DL and OL before wasting a #1 pick on a luxury who touches the ball 6 plays a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 5:57 AM, medicineman said: What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT. Why wouldn't the new coach keep a good young QB? The Rams got rid of their coach and the new coach was someone who was able to come in and make the #1 overall draft pick QB a better player. Goff looked like a total bust under Fisher.....new coach and suddenly he's a good QB. I would think the new coach (if its not Williams anyways) is going to be a guy who can work with the skill set that Baker has and make him better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, medicineman said: No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr The coach that Dorsey hires is going to be willing to work with Baker. Period. You're nuts if you think otherwise. You just don't- and I don't think it's ever happened- dump the #1 overall pick after one season. Even monumental bust Jamarcus Russell got three seasons with the Raiders. Mayfield is leading all the other rookie QBs in stats- and if you want a comparison, just look at what Deshone Kizer (didn't) do and compare that to the progress Baker is making this year. Draft another QB? sure in the 5th round where we have three picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, medicineman said: No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr I don't think it will be a WR.....I think a stud on defense would be more on the Radar. But if they do go WR, there may be some out there. Last year was the year to get a QB.....and a RB. This next year seems to fit into the Browns needs: WR/defense across the board. Top Prospects per CBS: 1Nick BosaOhio St.JrDE16-4263 2Ed OliverHoustonJrDT16-3292 3Rashan GaryMichiganJrDT26-5283 4Clelin FerrellClemsonJrDE26-4265 5Deandre BakerGeorgiaSrCB15-11185 6A.J. BrownOle MissJrWR16-1230 7Dexter LawrenceClemsonJrDT36-4350 8Greedy WilliamsLSUSophCB26-2182 9Dre'Mont JonesOhio St.JrDT46-3286 10Ryan FinleyNC StateSrQB16-4212 11Anthony JohnsonBuffaloSrWR26-2210 12David MontgomeryIowa St.JrRB15-11216 13Raekwon DavisAlabamaJrDT56-7316 14Brian BurnsFlorida St.JrDE36-5235 15Te'von ConeyNotre DameSrILB16-1240 16Jonah WilliamsAlabamaJrOT16-5301 17Drew LockMissouriSrQB26-4225 18Justice HillOklahoma St.JrRB25-10190 19Noah FantIowaJrTE16-5241 20Zach AllenBoston CollegeSrDE46-5285 21Justin HerbertOregonJrQB36-6233 22Bryce LoveStanfordSrRB35-10202 23N'Keal HarryArizona St.JrWR36-4213 24Devin WhiteLSUJrILB26-1240 5Damien HarrisAlabamaSrRB45-11215 26T.J. EdwardsWisconsinSrILB36-1242 27Dalton RisnerKansas St.SrOT26-5308 28Julian LoveNotre DameJrCB35-11193 29Anfernee JenningsAlabamaJrILB46-3266 30Jerry TilleryNotre DameSrDT66-7305 31Trey AdamsWashingtonSrOT36-8316 32Lukas DenisBoston CollegeSrFS15-11185 33Ahmmon RichardsMiami (Fla.)JrWR46-1190 34Kendall JosephClemsonSrILB56-0235 35Greg LittleOle MissJrOT46-6325 36Joe JacksonMiami (Fla.)JrDE56-5258 37Jeffery SimmonsMiss. StateJrDT76-4300 38Caleb WilsonUCLAJrTE26-4235 39Ross PierschbacherAlabamaSrOG16-4309 40David EdwardsWisconsinJrOT56-7315 41Montez SweatMiss. StateSrOLB16-6245 42Christian WilkinsClemsonSrDT86-4315 43Deebo SamuelSouth CarolinaSrWR56-0210 44Josh AllenKentuckySrOLB26-5260 45Mitch HyattClemsonSrOT66-5310 46Beau BenzschawelWisconsinSrOG26-6315 47Chase WinovichMichiganSrDE66-3255 48Jarrett StidhamAuburnJrQB46-3215 49JJ Arcega-WhitesideStanfordSrWR66-3225 50Rodney AndersonOklahomaJrRB56-1220 51Marquise CopelandCincinnatiSrDT96-2287 52Devin BushMichiganJrOLB35-11233 53Marquise BrownOklahomaJrWR75-10168 54Myles GaskinWashingtonSrRB65-10193 55Kaden SmithStanfordJrTE36-5252 56Bobby EvansOklahomaJrOT76-5301 57Bryan EdwardsSouth CarolinaJrWR86-3220 58Michael DeiterWisconsinSrOG36-6310 59Stanley Morgan Jr.NebraskaSrWR96-1200 60Jake BrowningWashingtonSrQB56-2210 61Connor McGovernPenn St.JrOG46-5326 62Juwan JohnsonPenn St.JrWR106-4231 63Sutton SmithN. IllinoisJrOLB46-1237 64Prince Tega WanoghoAuburnJrOT86-7307 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 hours ago, medicineman said: I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr Stroll down this list, say last 4-5 years... https://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=positions&position=WR (click position...than WR..than Go..) many WR starters can be found in 2nd to 4th round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, gumby73 said: Stroll down this list, say last 4-5 years... https://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=positions&position=WR (click position...than WR..than Go..) many WR starters can be found in 2nd to 4th round Some real finds at WR may have played in run offenses or with poor QBs in college. The comforting thing is that we have folks now who can uncover those hidden treasures. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Canton Mike said: Some real finds at WR may have played in run offenses or with poor QBs in college. The comforting thing is that we have folks now who can uncover those hidden treasures. Mike I really want to know the "behind the scenes" work of Elliot Wolfe? I think his work out weights more than Depot & Berry's work? That we have already seen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 46 minutes ago, gumby73 said: I really want to know the "behind the scenes" work of Elliot Wolfe? I think his work out weights more than Depot & Berry's work? That we have already seen... In addition to Wolfe's lineage, I once read that he is very good at finding "hidden gems" & Highsmith is good in the later rounds. We are Blessed with this FO! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 22 hours ago, medicineman said: No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr It’s just the underwhelming years of rooting for this franchise catching up with you. I’m feeling like the days of the “Browns being the Browns” are coming to an end. A #1 WR is a priority. We do have some solid depth at the position right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: It’s just the underwhelming years of rooting for this franchise catching up with you. I’m feeling like the days of the “Browns being the Browns” are coming to an end. A #1 WR is a priority. We do have some solid depth at the position right now though. But....as I have said elsewhere, that WR may be only like 5th in the rank of priorities....exactly because there may be some depth at that position now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: But....as I have said elsewhere, that WR may be only like 5th in the rank of priorities....exactly because there may be some depth at that position now. Right. I believe Dorsey’s draft philosophy is to take the best player available. So instead of filling needs in like we are filling in the blank, we are drafting the highest graded/most gifted player. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: Right. I believe Dorsey’s draft philosophy is to take the best player available. So instead of filling needs in like we are filling in the blank, we are drafting the highest graded/most gifted player. Works for me. Above I had posted the prospect list made by one service. Browns, right now, would be in the 11th draft position. Who knows where they will end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 hey medicineman Chubb just won rotw again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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