The Gipper Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 hours ago, mjp28 said: I could make it simplier for him to understand afterall the NFL realizes they have a serious and expensive ongoing problem here. Eh? Regular season OT - unnecessary. ..........oh edit add and it just isn't all overtime, it's all high speed and low speed collisions a real problem in tackle football. Kickoffs, punts, goal line stands and they are considering it all including new kicking game rules. And these guys are bigger, faster, stronger than ever in history just check the combine numbers. And this is from pee-wee through high school, college into the pros. They're doing what they can now with protect the quarterback at all cost (example Stabler), defensless players especially WR, RB. Take anyone out of the game to concussion protocal. Eject anyone for hits immediately as spotted and reviewed if available. New tackling techniques, on and on. The next target believe it or not is soccer as it is spreading here in the USA, less violent than tackle football but those darn high speed repetitive headers. But what do I know. I will say this much: the whole reduction of the OT rule for the purpose of avoiding injury is nothing but Optics. It is just propaganda to try to show that the league is trying to do something about player health and safety.......without actually doing a damned thing really about health and safety. If the length of games is such a concern, then go to the high school rule where each quarter is only 12 minutes and the entire game is only 48 minutes. Or don't have OT at all. And then go back to a 14 game schedule. Like I said, it is just optics.....and it WILL lead to more tie games. So we just have to live with that fact. In other words, party like its 1972. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/11/2018 at 11:10 AM, The Gipper said: I will say this much: the whole reduction of the OT rule for the purpose of avoiding injury is nothing but Optics. It is just propaganda to try to show that the league is trying to do something about player health and safety.......without actually doing a damned thing really about health and safety. If the length of games is such a concern, then go to the high school rule where each quarter is only 12 minutes and the entire game is only 48 minutes. Or don't have OT at all. And then go back to a 14 game schedule. Like I said, it is just optics.....and it WILL lead to more tie games. So we just have to live with that fact. In other words, party like its 1972. Yes the OT reduction is just one little piece in trying to address a much bigger problem, repeated head trauma. The NFL, their lawyers, top brass have all been debating this which is partly why they jumped to pay the union demands on money for retired players with CTE and deceased players families trying to get some settlements. (Oh I'm too lazy to look it up now.) The inital agreement was small compared to what is coming in the coming years. And reduced clock, fewer games anything like that is the NFL going backwards and the owners, players, fans won't like or want that. Oh well, I like to kid younger fans that I actually saw Jim Brown play and the BROWNS win a championship......way back when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, mjp28 said: Yes the OT reduction is just one little piece in trying to address a much bigger problem, repeated head trauma. The NFL, their lawyers, top brass have all been debating this which is partly why they jumped to pay the union demands on money for retired players with CTE and deceased players families trying to get some settlements. (Oh I'm too lazy to look it up now.) The inital agreement was small compared to what is coming in the coming years. And reduced clock, fewer games anything like that is the NFL going backwards and the owners, players, fans won't like or want that. Oh well, I like to kid younger fans that I actually saw Jim Brown play and the BROWNS win a championship......way back when. I am not sure it can even be considered one little piece. I guess I agree with Glommie here. I don't think it makes a scintilla of a difference to a players overall career if he plays a handful of OT games that go 10 minutes instead of 15 minutes. But I DO think that those tie games could very well have a great effect on the playoffs, in terms of who gets in or not, and for seeding. But I am OK with that. Remember 1989: AFC Central Cleveland Browns* 9 6 1 .594 334 254 80 5.0 -0.6 4.4 -0.2 4.6 Houston Oilers+ 9 7 0 .563 365 412 -47 -2.9 0.4 -2.5 2.8 -5.3 Pittsburgh Steelers+ 9 7 0 .563 265 326 -61 -3.8 0.1 -3.7 -4.3 0.6 Cincinnati Bengals 8 8 0 .500 404 285 119 7.4 -0.5 6.9 4.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, mjp28 said: In OT yes take the ball I'm trying to think of one time when someone deferred college or pro. Maybe a snowstorn kick deep and wait? I dunno. The Patriots elected to play defense a few seasons ago on a Sunday night game when it was super windy. Defense held and the punt didn't go anywhere and they got the ball near midfield as I recall and completed like one pass and then kicked a FG with the wind to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, The Gipper said: I am not sure it can even be considered one little piece. I guess I agree with Glommie here. I don't think it makes a scintilla of a difference to a players overall career if he plays a handful of OT games that go 10 minutes instead of 15 minutes. Yes it does again to reduce total hits ALONG with other measures, face it they're going to take as much high and low speed contact out of the game as they can. How about no kickoffs and starting at the 25 yard line, it' been discussed and other measures. ALSO more high schools are dropping football alltogether as we've discussed before. Wait until the soccer moms find out soccer can cause concussions too, oh no ping pong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, mjp28 said: Yes it does again to reduce total hits ALONG with other measures, face it they're going to take as much high and low speed contact out of the game as they can. How about no kickoffs and starting at the 25 yard line, it' been discussed and other measures. ALSO more high schools are dropping football alltogether as we've discussed before. Wait until the soccer mom's find out soccer can cause concussions too, oh no ping pong? Why don't we just put all the players in bubble wrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 When I saw that early PBS show on concussions and CTE which lead to the movie I was stunned at the allegations so I looked into it more and more. It is a real and serious problem in contact sports -and- war with IEDs and other similar head trama. Service people and athletes and killing themselves rather than live with it in extreme cases. Just the dreary facts, in the 1940s, 1950s even 1960s they were just punchy old boxers (I knew one) or cowards, not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, The Gipper said: Why don't we just put all the players in bubble wrap. I'd rather watch hot chicks in lingerie football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 11 hours ago, mjp28 said: I'd rather watch hot chicks in lingerie football. Far better than the NFL. I have said this many, many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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