Mark O Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Not to mention... Patriots. I hear they're pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 19 hours ago, SD_Tom said: How many sacks has baker taken? The blocking scheme right now is obviously doing great Sigh..... again..... Sacks vs full speed blindside hits because somebody missed an assignment are two vastly different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now. Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realplayer Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 11:22 AM, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said: I’m trying to take a positive out of all those attempts, that being the reps. Browns were playing behind and the chargers lead kept growing, so the mistakes happened. Hopefully he’ll grow from it. I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Realplayer said: I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset. I feel like this statement might as well be played on a loop, because it feels like we've been saying the same thing over and over. Duke should get 10-15 touches every game. He's not a workhorse, but 10-15 touches a game is not a burdensome load for him to bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: I feel like this statement might as well be played on a loop, because it feels like we've been saying the same thing over and over. Duke should get 10-15 touches every game. He's not a workhorse, but 10-15 touches a game is not a burdensome load for him to bear. Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, Canton Mike said: Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are. Mike so how much of that is on hue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ATOM said: so how much of that is on hue ? Depends on how much you think he still influences the happening ons for the offense. It was a common complaint when Hue was his own OC, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ATOM said: so how much of that is on hue ? If you're looking to me to get on the Hue bashing wagon, you're barking up the wrong tree. Hue will be evaluated by folks far more qualified than you or me. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Depends on how much you think he still influences the happening ons for the offense. It was a common complaint when Hue was his own OC, though. well according to the ghoul hue is running everything and the rest are just lackies 27 minutes ago, Canton Mike said: If you're looking to me to get on the Hue bashing wagon, you're barking up the wrong tree. Hue will be evaluated by folks far more qualified than you or me. Mike who truck stop jimmy cause he sure has shown he knows what he is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 there you go zombo I brought back david for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Canton Mike said: If you're looking to me to get on the Hue bashing wagon, you're barking up the wrong tree. Hue will be evaluated by folks far more qualified than you or me. Mike The Haslam’s. Are you sure there are more qualified than you you and me😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, ATOM said: there you go zombo I brought back david for ya The Thin White Duke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 9/30/2018 at 10:07 PM, Clevfan4life said: He has a bit fresher legs. Let him be the workhorse for a few weeks and let carlos get a couple relief innings in per week. We're not running enough. We need to avg around 30 carries a week. The 1 should get 15-18 of those and the rest of the carrys split between the #2 and duke. The pass makes the run possible. The fake Browns didn't pass for schidt last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 1:59 PM, Clevfan4life said: baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now. Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh Hoorts says the running game is not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 2:32 AM, Realplayer said: I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset. Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game: Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3 480 6.5 3101 10 8 16 2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5 2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5 2017 24 CLE 29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6 2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1 2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions? Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there? Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles Date Week Tm Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD 2018-09-09 1 CLE PIT T 21-21 5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-20 3 CLE NYJ W 21-17 2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00 0 1 0 0 0 0 2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45 2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-07 5 CLE BAL W 12-9 5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-14 6 CLE LAC L 14-38 2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11 2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview 2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018) 2018-11-04 9 CLE KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 6:01 PM, ATOM said: so how much of that is on hue ? Depends upon when the decision on how much to use Duke occurs. If it's on Monday in the game plan meetings, then it's on Hue. If it's play calls within the flow of a given game that's primarily on Haley, although Hue can call at any time to "feature" Duke for a series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 19 hours ago, Ghoolie said: Hoorts says the running game is not important. tjats demonstrably untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 21 hours ago, Ghoolie said: Hoorts says the running game is not important. Why lie so blatantly so obviously I mean you’re not POTUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realplayer Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 15 hours ago, mjp28 said: Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game: Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3 480 6.5 3101 10 8 16 2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5 2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5 2017 24 CLE 29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6 2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1 2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions? Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there? Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles Date Week Tm Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD 2018-09-09 1 CLE PIT T 21-21 5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-20 3 CLE NYJ W 21-17 2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00 0 1 0 0 0 0 2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45 2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-07 5 CLE BAL W 12-9 5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-14 6 CLE LAC L 14-38 2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11 2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview 2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018) 2018-11-04 9 CLE KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015) CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Realplayer said: CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow And how can we forget that the BROWNS are coming off of 1-31, they still are very much still in rebuilding mode not like NE and in the continuing just reloading more.....but they do a good job of filling holes. Belichick love him or hate him does know football (and the latest cheating techniques). The BROWNS still need another good talent procurement year to even think about getting over .500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hes gonna get the work now...adios carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 And he is literally moving to the 1 spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Since the MO of this place is for people to return from the dead and pound on their chest, I'll present you with: On 11/26/2017 at 11:02 AM, Tim Couch Pulls Out said: Nick Chubb is going to be one of the better steals in this draft. Guy has has tremendous vision and patience to be a successful runner in the NFL. Add in the fact that he’s a physical freak and he’ll be a starter sooner rather than later. And he’ll go in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 i would have preferred they spread the heavy lifting between both. Dialing them up and down weekly to.keep them fresh. That was a playoff backfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tim Couch Pulls Out said: Since the MO of this place is for people to return from the dead and pound on their chest, I'll present you with: Welcome back from the dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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