bjh2130 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: And that's bad because... Your eye test? You've watched every snap of every other QB in the Big Ten? How can "too much information" be bad when it comes to statistically and analytics? Actually I have at least of Brian lewerke Shea Patterson Alex hornibrook Nathan Stanley Peyton Ramsey and Clayton Thorson obviously Haskins as well but you asked for other quarterbacks in the Big Ten. Forgot trace mcsorley. Also if statistics and analytics were everything we would have turned this team around before we got a football eye test guy in as our GM. Sashi did a great job acquiring draft capital and freeing up cap space but they needed Dorsey to evaluate talent not based on statistics and Analytics. Edit I can also say I love Baker and the way he is playing but there is no way he's playing the 6th best out of all the quarterbacks in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Woody is in a fever pitch about his boy friend Peppers. LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 33 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: And that's bad because... Your eye test? You've watched every snap of every other QB in the Big Ten? How can "too much information" be bad when it comes to statistically and analytics? Lets see these stats the put Haskins as only the 5th best Big Ten QB. ....and then I will quote Benjamin Disraeli: "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 37 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Lets see these stats the put Haskins as only the 5th best Big Ten QB. ....and then I will quote Benjamin Disraeli: "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics". I have on idea, I didn't bring up the PFF grades. I take it there is that difference between "what my eyes see", "what my heart wants" and "what in depth analysis shows". They aren't infallible or anything, but I'd take their evaluation over what a fan sees on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Woody is in a fever pitch about his boy friend Peppers. LMAO. Speaking of, shouldn't you be fellating your Orange God over on the political board? From what I hear, your posts over there are even more useless than yours here, MAGA groupie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: I have on idea, I didn't bring up the PFF grades. I take it there is that difference between "what my eyes see", "what my heart wants" and "what in depth analysis shows". They aren't infallible or anything, but I'd take their evaluation over what a fan sees on TV. Analytics and stats aren't everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Speaking of, shouldn't you be fellating your Orange God over on the political board? From what I hear, your posts over there are even more useless than yours here, MAGA groupie. u dont need to.hear it second hand, go over and see for urself. He's been better lately tho.....now its west side taking the majority first team reps. ☕ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I have on idea, I didn't bring up the PFF grades. I take it there is that difference between "what my eyes see", "what my heart wants" and "what in depth analysis shows". They aren't infallible or anything, but I'd take their evaluation over what a fan sees on TV. Six touchdown passes in one game how’s that for a statistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Six touchdown passes in one game how’s that for a statistic. It's great. And Haskins is a very good player. But there's a reason why PFF doesn't just grade players based on the flashy stats that the casual fan sees. A whole host of variables matter. Context matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: It's great. And Haskins is a very good player. But there's a reason why PFF doesn't just grade players based on the flashy stats that the casual fan sees. A whole host of variables matter. Context matters. Well how about this for a resource. I think the NFL scouts will be drooling over this guy and he could likely be a top five pick when he comes out if not number one overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, The Gipper said: Well how about this for a resource. I think the NFL scouts will be drooling over this guy and he could likely be a top five pick when he comes out if not number one overall. I'd say your opinion isn't as good of a resource as PFF grades and that draft stock != how good of a QB someone is in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I'd say your opinion isn't as good of a resource as PFF grades and that draft stock != how good of a QB someone is in college Well....it isn't my opinion....it is the opinion of NFL scouts. https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Ranking-college-footballs-10-most-disappointing-teams-123058318 https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/10/06/dwayne-haskins-nfl-draft-college-football-ohio-state/ But, by all means, list the grades that PFF has put out for college QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 9 hours ago, The Gipper said: I think the NFL scouts will be drooling over this guy and he could likely be a top five pick when he comes out if not number one overall. Doubtful. This year's DL [both edge and interior] class is otherworldly. Top-20, sure. My top 7 is some order of Ed Oliver / Bosa / Clelin Ferrell / the Bama OT / The Other Josh Allen / Rashaan Gary / Raekwon Davis. Mix and match but I bet nobody skill goes before 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: Doubtful. This year's DL [both edge and interior] class is otherworldly. Top-20, sure. My top 7 is some order of Ed Oliver / Bosa / Clelin Ferrell / the Bama OT / The Other Josh Allen / Rashaan Gary / Raekwon Davis. Mix and match but I bet nobody skill goes before 8. I do not believe Haskins will nor should he come out. So he would not/should not be in the top of this draft. But, if for some reason he would declare: Hello! McFly! Is anybody home? He is a fuyucking QB. Of course a damned QB is going to go high if the NFL scouts believe he has the goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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