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So, Tiger Woods was asked who should be on the Mt. Rushmore of golfers, and he says, Sam Snead, Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and him.   Fair enough.    So, extrapolating on that theme  please name whom you think should be on the Mt. Rushmore in the following categories.  By this, of course we mean who are the best 4 ever to play these sports/positions:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

 

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

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I know this is a bit of thinking to do.....so if you want, you can just say that agree with everything I say on this thread, and you can't go wrong. Or, just say where you would vary from my selections (as I certainly have struggled with many of these)

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Otto Graham,  Tom Brady, Joe Montana,  Peyton Manning

 

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmit Smith,  Barry Sanders

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Randy Moss, Paul Warfield

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

 Butkus, Ray Lewis, Ray Nitschke, Jack Lambert

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Lawrence Taylor,  Bruce Smith, Deacon Jones, Reggie White

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

George Halas,  Paul Brown, Vince Lombardi,  Don Shula   (that's right...no BB)

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Cy Young, Walter Johnson, Warren Spahn, Greg Maddux

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

Wayne Gretsky,  Gordie Howe,  Mario Lemieux,  and either Bobby Hull or Bobby Orr

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1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Otto Graham, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana

 

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, O.J. Simpson

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, Sam Huff, Ray Lewis

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor

 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown, Don Shula, Bill Belichick

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Barry Bonds

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Walter Johnson, Roger Clemens, Sandy Koufax, Greg Maddux

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Mario Lemieux

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11 minutes ago, Zombo said:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Otto Graham, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana

 

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, O.J. Simpson

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

finger Butkus, Mike Singletary, Sam Huff, Ray Lewis

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor

 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown, Don Shula, Bill Belichick

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Barry Bonds

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Walter Johnson, Roger Clemens, Sandy Koufax, Greg Maddux

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Mario Lemieux

The ones highlighted so far have two votes, yours and mine...

(I did not put in T.O. because I think he is a bit of a scum bucket...and I think that even a couple of receivers of his same era could have even been just as good or better....like Marvin Harrison and Chris Carter....

Also....did not include  Barry Bonds  or Roger Clemens because of their juicing.....plus, like Bob Costas, I worship at the altar of Mickey Mantle as a position player (plus I would have put in Bob Feller over Clemens....noting the several years of his career that he gave up to fight WWII)

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1 minute ago, The Gipper said:

The ones highlighted so far have two votes, yours and mine...

(I did not put in T.O. because I think he is a bit of a scum bucket...and I think that even a couple of receivers of his same era could have even been just as good or better....like Marvin Harrison and Chris Carter....

Also....did not include  Barry Bonds  or Roger Clemens because of their juicing.....plus, like Bob Costas, I worship at the altar of Mickey Mantle as a position player (plus I would have put in Bob Feller over Clemens....noting the several years of his career that he gave up to fight WWII)

Ya I did my list without looking at yours, and we came up with similarities.

I went by purely what they did on the field of battle, hence I have a murderer or two and steriod users.

I could do a list with only people we don't think cheated (Clemens, Bonds out Christy Matthewson and Hank Aaron in) People who weren't scumbags (OJ out, Ladian Tomlinson in) or I could do my personal favorites to watch (would include guys like Bret Favre, Reggie Miller, Orel Hershiser that I just really enjoyed watching).

Zombo

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8 minutes ago, Zombo said:

Ya I did my list without looking at yours, and we came up with similarities.

I went by purely what they did on the field of battle, hence I have a murderer or two and steriod users.

I could do a list with only people we don't think cheated (Clemens, Bonds out Christy Matthewson and Hank Aaron in) People who weren't scumbags (OJ out, Ladian Tomlinson in) or I could do my personal favorites to watch (would include guys like Bret Favre, Reggie Miller, Orel Hershiser that I just really enjoyed watching).

Zombo

In theory I guess we could take every one of our choices out and put others in....maybe, though not really for a few.  I think likely that there is at least one inarguable person for each of these that 100% of people would choose them for their monument....but for the others, there easily are arguments for other people.

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2 hours ago, The Gipper said:

So, Tiger Woods was asked who should be on the Mt. Rushmore of golfers, and he says, Sam Snead, Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and him.   Fair enough.    So, extrapolating on that theme  please name whom you think should be on the Mt. Rushmore in the following categories.  By this, of course we mean who are the best 4 ever to play these sports/positions:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Otto Graham, Tom Brady,  Roger Staubach, Joe Montana

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Fred Bilitnekoff, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Randy Moss

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

Jack Lambert, Mike Singletary, Brian Urlacher, Chris Spielman

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Reggie White, Deacon Jones, Ed "To Tall" Jones, Lawrence Taylor

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

Paul Brown, Don Shula, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

LeBron, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Larry Bird

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Babe Ruth, Mike Schmidt, Albert Belle, Ted Williams

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Bob Feller, Steve Carlton, Nolan Ryan, Bob Gibson

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

Bobby Orr, Jaques Plante, Rocket Richard, Wayne Gretzky

 

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7 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

In theory I guess we could take every one of our choices out and put others in....maybe, though not really for a few.  I think likely that there is at least one inarguable person for each of these that 100% of people would choose them for their monument....but for the others, there easily are arguments for other people.

All time Mount Rushmore for the four top American team sports:

Babe Ruth, Jim Brown, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan

I defer to Jordan because Lebron's career is not over, but I personally think Lebron is a better basketball player, if he wins a championship in LA I'd have to give him the throne.

Z

 

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1 minute ago, Zombo said:

All time Mount Rushmore for the four top American team sports:

Babe Ruth, Jim Brown, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan

I defer to Jordan because Lebron's career is not over, but I personally think Lebron is a better basketball player, if he wins a championship in LA I'd have to give him the throne.

Z

 

I debated about putting  Jordan in the top 4.   I think both LeBron and Magic are better,   and and argument could be made that the likes of Russell, Wilt, and Kareem were better.  

Jordan, to me is simply Kobe with a bit more longevity at the top. And I think he may have been a product of the Phil Jackson system...under which Kobe also won 5 titles.   I also think that in those Finals that he won that he faced weak competition, comparatively.   The best team he ever ran up against were the Jazz with Stockton and Malone.....but that team, in my opinion was nowhere near the type of competition that LeBron has faced in the Finals:   the Spurs dynasty and the Warriors.  Magic had the Bird Celtics to contend with...and Bird had the Magic Lakers.  When Jordan's teams faced stiff competition such as those Bird Celtics, and the Bad Boys Pistons, he got beat before the Finals.  It was not until after those teams tailed off did he begin to win the East even. 

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One QB that almost never get run in the greatest of all time....IS in fact one with almost as many championships as anyone else:

Bart Starr.     Starr won 5 titles.   Only OG with his 7 and Brady with his 5 match or exceed Starr.

Then there are the "Four Title QBs"   not listed by anyone here yet:   Terry Bradshaw, and Sid Luckman.  (The 4 or more title club includes only 6 QBs:  OG/Brady/Montana/Bradshaw/Luckman/Starr)

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1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history. Unitas, Montana, Moon and Brady

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history. JB, Sanders, Campbell and Bo

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history. Rice, Warfield, Berry and Largent

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history. Lewis, Butkis, Singletary and Lanier

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history. LT, Smith, White (Reggie) and JJ Watt

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history. Shula, Lombardi, Brown and Belichik

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. Gretzky, Howe, Dryden and Messier

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Thinkin' on this one a little.... going with 5-tool guys...

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history Mantle, Mays, Clemente and Trout

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8 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Thinkin' on this one a little.... going with 5-tool guys...

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history Mantle, Mays, Clemente and Trout

While he is no Lou Brock or Rickey Henderson, people may be surprised to know that Babe Ruth stole 123 bases in his career,  and despite his portly appearance, the dude could run.

AND....he actually could bunt and had 113 sacrifices in his career.

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. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.


Otto Graham,John Unitas,Tom Brady, Peyton Manning.


2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

 

Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history


Dante Lavelli, Paul Warfield , Jerry Rice , Chris Carter

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

 

finger Butkus , Ray Nitschke , George Bednarik, Ray Lewis

 

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history


Reggie White,Art Donovan,Gino Marchetti,Bruce Smith.

 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history


Paul Brown , Vince Lombardi, George Halas, Chuck Knoll

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.


Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Wilt Chamberlain , Bill Russell

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history


Babe Ruth, Loue Gerhig ,Joe Dimaggio , Ted Williams.

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history


Sandy Koufax,Bob Feller , Nolan Ryan , Bob Gibson

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history.


Lemieux,Gretzky, Bobby Orr , Bobby hull

 

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9 hours ago, The Gipper said:

So, Tiger Woods was asked who should be on the Mt. Rushmore of golfers, and he says, Sam Snead, Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and him.   Fair enough.    So, extrapolating on that theme  please name whom you think should be on the Mt. Rushmore in the following categories.  By this, of course we mean who are the best 4 ever to play these sports/positions:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, Tom Brady

 

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk 

 

9 hours ago, The Gipper said:

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

finger Butkus, Ray Nitschke, Mike Singletary, Ray Lewis

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Bruce Smith, Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Deacon Jones

 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

Paul Brown, Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Wilt Chamberlin, Larry Bird

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Mike Trout

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history.

Wayne Gretzky, Some Canadian dude, Some Russian dude, Some Swedish dude 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, The Gipper said:

So, Tiger Woods was asked who should be on the Mt. Rushmore of golfers, and he says, Sam Snead, Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and him.   Fair enough.    So, extrapolating on that theme  please name whom you think should be on the Mt. Rushmore in the following categories.  By this, of course we mean who are the best 4 ever to play these sports/positions:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Bradshaw, Starr, Stabler, Graham

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

JB, Sanders, Sayers, OJ.....................Payton is maybe 10th, was over rated.

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Swann, Warfield, Rice, Cohllinswort

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

Boring

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Gastineau, Bruce Smith, Mean Joe, Joe Pepitone 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

Lombardi, Hallas, Brown, Cowher

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

Phuck the NBA....Jail all of them.

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Ted Williams, Feller, Ruth, Dimaggio

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Same as above.

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

Meaningless Sport, B O R I N G

 

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9 hours ago, The Gipper said:

So, Tiger Woods was asked who should be on the Mt. Rushmore of golfers, and he says, Sam Snead, Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and him.   Fair enough.    So, extrapolating on that theme  please name whom you think should be on the Mt. Rushmore in the following categories.  By this, of course we mean who are the best 4 ever to play these sports/positions:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Bradshaw, Starr, Stabler, Graham

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

JB, Sanders, Sayers, OJ.....................Payton is maybe 10th, was over rated.

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Swann, Warfield, Rice, Cohllinswort

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

Boring

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Gastineau, Bruce Smith, Mean Joe, Joe Pepitone 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

Lombardi, Hallas, Brown, Cowher

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

Phuck the NBA....Jail all of them.

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Ted Williams, Feller, Ruth, Dimaggio

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Same as above.

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

Meaningless Sport, B O R I N G

 

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8 hours ago, Zombo said:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history.

Otto Graham, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana

 

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history

Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, O.J. Simpson

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history

Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history

finger Butkus, Mike Singletary, Sam Huff, Ray Lewis

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history

Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor

 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history

Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown, Don Shula, Bill Belichick

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history

Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Barry Bonds

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history

Walter Johnson, Roger Clemens, Sandy Koufax, Greg Maddux

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history. 

Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Mario Lemieux

OJ Simpson ... really ?  ..... I guess he fits the category like a glove ....

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9 hours ago, The Gipper said:

So, Tiger Woods was asked who should be on the Mt. Rushmore of golfers, and he says, Sam Snead, Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and him.   Fair enough.    So, extrapolating on that theme  please name whom you think should be on the Mt. Rushmore in the following categories.  By this, of course we mean who are the best 4 ever to play these sports/positions:

1. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Quarterbacks in NFL history....Otto Graham, Bart Starr, Joe Montana, Tom Brady

 

2. Name your Mt Rushmore of  Running Backs in NFL history...Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Lenny Moore, Gale Sayers 

 

3. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Wide Receivers in NFL history...Jerry Rice, Paul Warfield, Randy Moss, Fred Biletnikoff

 

4. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Middle Linebackers in NFL history...finger Butkus, Ray Nitschke, Ray Lewis, Willie Lanier

 

5. Name your Mt. Rushmore of  Pass rushers  (DE/OLB)  in NFL history...Deacon Jones, Bruce Smith, Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor

 

 

6. Name your Mt. Rushmore of Head Coaches in NFL history...Paul Brown, George Halas, Vince Lombardi, Don Shula

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history...LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson 

 

8. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball  position players in history...Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Willie Mays

 

9. Name your Mt. Rushmore of baseball pitchers in history...Sandy Koufax, Bob Feller, Cy Young, Greg Maddux

 

10. Name your Mt. Rushmore of hockey players in history...Wayne Gretzky, Gordy Howe, Bobby Hull, Mario Lemieux

Getting back to golf, how the HELL do you leave Arnold Palmer off? He took the perception of golf as a "rich man's game" & brought it to the average guy. He was truly the "Ambassador of Golf". Had it not been for Arnold Palmer, Tiger (through his Dad) may never have had the opportunity he has had. Arnold Palmer is definitely one of the most significant contributors to golf history. IMHO, leaving him off is a travesty!

Mike

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1 hour ago, darren15 said:

OJ Simpson ... really ?  ..... I guess he fits the category like a glove ....

Nobody was better in their prime.

Look at his stats for the five years from 1972 thru 1976.

And, yes, I hate him.

Z

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12 minutes ago, Zombo said:

Nobody was better in their prime.

Look at his stats for the five years from 1972 thru 1976.

And, yes, I hate him.

Z

I have to admit... The Electric Company was awesome saucery!

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15 hours ago, nickers said:

George Bednarik

Any relation to Chuck? ;)

Last two-way player in the NFL...

15 hours ago, nickers said:

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history.

Slept on this one...

MJ, LBJ, Magic, Olajuwon...

All conventional choices except Hakeem, but he was the most athletic Center I've ever seen and he could do it all... Offense with range... Defense. Just a joy to watch him play.

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4 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Any relation to Chuck? ;)

Last two-way player in the NFL...

Slept on this one...

MJ, LBJ, Magic, Olajuwon...

All conventional choices except Hakeem, but he was the most athletic Center I've ever seen and he could do it all... Offense with range... Defense. Just a joy to watch him play.

Perhaps you need an upgrade on cheaters :P.. Ok yes.. I meant chuck.. I had a whale of a time remembering his name.. but here is what you missed!! :P

 

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA  players in history. 

Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell

 

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7 minutes ago, nickers said:

Perhaps you need an upgrade on cheaters :P.. Ok yes.. I meant chuck.. I had a whale of a time remembering his name.. but here is what you missed!! :P

lol... I had an advantage.

Every year going into double sessions in H.S. our coaches would show us an NFL Films production on Chuck. There are a few on youtube, but not the one I remember.

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5 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

lol... I had an advantage.

Every year going into double sessions in H.S. our coaches would show us an NFL Films production on Chuck. There are a few on youtube, but not the one I remember.

I remember Art Donovan of the Colts, perhaps the greatest interview in NFL history, describe Bednarik's prowess as a center: "He couldn't block my grandmother." 

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Ray Narleski should get honorable mention. If Bob Feller wasn't there, Narleski would have been the star. One hell of a pitcher

 

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6 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

Ray Narleski should get honorable mention. If Bob Feller wasn't there, Narleski would have been the star. One hell of a pitcher

 

Glad to see your lack of knowledge about sports isn't limited to only football. 

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11 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

Ray Narleski should get honorable mention. If Bob Feller wasn't there, Narleski would have been the star. One hell of a pitcher

 

Narleski and Feller didn't really didn't compete for a starting spot.

Narleski's had a short career....only played 6 years, 5 with the Indians.  From 1954 to 1958.  His record was  39-21.

Feller played a couple of years with Narleski at the end of his career.  

So, while Narleski may have been a bit of a cult figure...to you, no one is going to put him on the Mt. Rushmore of MLB pitchers. 

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But....an interesting question would be:

Who would be on the Mt. Rushmore of Indians pitchers over history?  Feller....Lemon....Harder....Covaleski....Addie Joss...Early Wynn....Sam McDowell...Kluber...

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And note this:   Cy Young  spent 9 years with the Cleveland Spiders of the National League and another 3 with the Indians.

Which brings up another question....perhaps for the Tribe forum:   Why did not the Cleveland Spiders continue on as a National League team?   They began in 1887 and lasted until 1899, then folded apparently.  But, the Indians (by another name)  began just 2 years later, in 1901.   So Cleveland was without  a major league baseball team for just  one single year:  1900. 

So, what happened to the Cleveland Spiders?

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10 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Which brings up another question....perhaps for the Tribe forum:   Why did not the Cleveland Spiders continue on as a National League team?   They began in 1887 and lasted until 1899, then folded apparently.  But, the Indians (by another name)  began just 2 years later, in 1901.   So Cleveland was without  a major league baseball team for just  one single year:  1900. 

So, what happened to the Cleveland Spiders?

Somehow the owner of the Spiders also owned a franchise in St. Louis (I think) and for reasons I don't remember off the top of my head decided to transfer all the good players off the Spiders to St. Louis. The Spiders were the literal version of the movie 'Major League' Indians, made up of castoffs and never-was-is's… They finished the season 20-134. 

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I was going to go with: Down came the rain and washed the spiders out...

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