calfoxwc Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Dick Morris Obama's issues crumbling By Dick Morris Posted: 06/09/09 04:51 PM [ET] At last, there is convincing evidence that Obama's poll numbers may be descending to earth. While his approval remains high — and his personal favorability is even higher — the underlying numbers suggest that a decline may be in the offing. Even as he stands on his pedestal, the numbers under his feet are crumbling. According to a Rasmussen poll, more voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats to handle the economy, by a margin of 45-39. Scott Rasmussen notes that "this is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue." Last month, he had the Democrats holding a one-point lead, but they lost it in June's polling. And the Democratic leads over Republicans on their core issues are also dropping. Particularly interesting is the Democratic decline over healthcare, from an 18-point lead in May to only 10 points now. A Gallup poll also confirms that the president's personal ratings are high, but the underlying data less so. While 67 percent of voters give Obama personal favorable ratings and 61 percent approve of his job performance (Rasmussen has his job approval lower, at 55 percent), they give him much lower ratings on specific issues. Gallup shows Obama getting only 55 percent approval on his handling of the economy (down from 59 percent in February) and finds that only 45 percent approve of his handling of federal spending while 46 percent approve of his treatment of the budget deficit. As it becomes clearer that the deficit caused by spending has landed us in a new economic crisis, entirely of Obama's own making, his popularity and job performance are likely to drop as well. The old recession — that the public says was caused by Bush — shows signs of winding down. But the new recession and/or inflation — triggered by Obama's massive deficits — is just now coming upon us. If Obama refuses to cut back on his spending/stimulus plans (despite convincing evidence that Americans are not spending the money), he has three options: a. He can raise taxes, which will trigger a deeper recession; b. He can print money, which will trigger huge inflation; c. He can pay more interest to borrow money, which will send the economy diving down again. The blame for these outcomes will fall squarely on Obama's deficit and spending policies. The fact that Americans are aware of these issues, and already disapprove of Obama's performance on them, indicates that they will be increasingly receptive to blaming him for the "new" recession. Interestingly, Obama's polling is now the exact opposite of President Clinton's in the days after Monica Lewinsky. Back then, the president's approval for handling specific issues was his forte, while his job approval remained high but his personal favorability lagged 20 points behind. Ultimately, it is a politician's performance on specific issues that determines his electability. Personal favorability withers in the face of issue differences. Obama is about to find out that you cannot rely on image to bolster your presidency when the underlying issues are crumbling. All this data suggests that Obama might run out of steam just as he gets to his healthcare agenda. As unemployment mounts, month after month, and Obama's claims of job creation (or savings) ring hollow, it is possible that he will not have the heft to pass his radical restructuring of the healthcare system. The automaton Democratic majority may pass it anyway, but it will be a one-way ticket to oblivion if they do. Morris, a former adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and President Bill Clinton, is the author of Outrage. To get all of Dick Morris's and Eileen McGann's columns for free by e-mail or to order a signed copy of their new best-selling book, Fleeced, go to dickmorris.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 But, do you have anything to agree with, or disagree with, the article? Please, either comment or don't comment. Why smart off to me for posting it ? You disagree? Why? Do you think you know more than Dick Morris does about politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I didn't write the article. Apparently you lads can't find fault with what he says. So, you go for personal attacks. It's pretty obvious YOU have the mo folks can notice. Either address the issues Morris talks about, or go on to another thread. Stop whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 well, as i look around, i only see more of the same. so much for change.... if he continues down the road he has outlined, we are in for a world of hurt. businesses are floundering right now, and he's drunk on spending. cal has this right....obama has no clue when it comes to economics, and the advisors he has can't even hire an accountant to get their taxes right. we've got some issue ahead folks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 And all of those who voted for Stalin I mean Obama said he had a brilliant mind and was well educated at some of the finest schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Actually, Morris was correct. He knows what he is talking about... ************************************************** http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/02/022721.php Obama's Popularity Slipping Share Post PrintFebruary 3, 2009 Posted by John at 10:00 AM In today's Rasmussen survey, President Obama's approval rating is down to 61 percent. There's nothing wrong with that, but there's nothing special about it, either. It's in line with what most Presidents have experienced near the beginning of their terms; slightly lower, actually, than George W. Bush's approval rating in the Gallup poll 60 days into his first term, notwithstanding the acrimony surrounding the 2000 election. Obama's decline was inevitable once he actually started making decisions. His approval rating will probably fall further as more voters learn details about the Democrats' pork bill, as foreign policy setbacks continue, and as he continues to govern like a traditional Democrat. Again, there is nothing particularly wrong with this. But there seems to be a myth inside the Beltway that Obama enjoys some sort of super-popularity that makes his policies difficult to challenge. That is simply untrue. Two weeks into his administration, Obama's approval rating is what one would expect from any newly-elected, generic Democrat. Where it goes from here depends on how the public perceives the administration's successes and failures. Based on what we've seen so far, there will be plenty for Republicans to criticize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Follow the green line. Then follow the red line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Dan, here's more. Morris's article was right on the money: *********************************** Obama's Poll Numbers Are Falling to Earth By DOUGLAS E. SCHOEN and SCOTT RASMUSSEN It is simply wrong for commentators to continue to focus on President Barack Obama's high levels of popularity, and to conclude that these are indicative of high levels of public confidence in the work of his administration. Indeed, a detailed look at recent survey data shows that the opposite is most likely true. The American people are coming to express increasingly significant doubts about his initiatives, and most likely support a different agenda and different policies from those that the Obama administration has advanced. Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001. Rasmussen Reports data shows that Mr. Obama's net presidential approval rating -- which is calculated by subtracting the number who strongly disapprove from the number who strongly approve -- is just six, his lowest rating to date. M.E. CohenOverall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance. This is a substantial degree of polarization so early in the administration. Mr. Obama has lost virtually all of his Republican support and a good part of his Independent support, and the trend is decidedly negative. A detailed examination of presidential popularity after 50 days on the job similarly demonstrates a substantial drop in presidential approval relative to other elected presidents in the 20th and 21st centuries. The reason for this decline most likely has to do with doubts about the administration's policies and their impact on peoples' lives. There is also a clear sense in the polling that taxes will increase for all Americans because of the stimulus, notwithstanding what the president has said about taxes going down for 95% of Americans. Close to three-quarters expect that government spending will grow under this administration. Recent Gallup data echo these concerns. That polling shows that there are deep-seated, underlying economic concerns. Eighty-three percent say they are worried that the steps Mr. Obama is taking to fix the economy may not work and the economy will get worse. Eighty-two percent say they are worried about the amount of money being added to the deficit. Seventy-eight percent are worried about inflation growing, and 69% say they are worried about the increasing role of the government in the U.S. economy. When Gallup asked whether we should be spending more or less in the economic stimulus, by close to 3-to-1 margin voters said it is better to have spent less than to have spent more. When asked whether we are adding too much to the deficit or spending too little to improve the economy, by close to a 3-to-2 margin voters said that we are adding too much to the deficit. Support for the stimulus package is dropping from narrow majority support to below that. There is no sense that the stimulus package itself will work quickly, and according to a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll, close to 60% said it would make only a marginal difference in the next two to four years. Rasmussen data shows that people now actually oppose Mr. Obama's budget, 46% to 41%. Three-quarters take this position because it will lead to too much spending. And by 2-to-1, voters reject House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's call for a second stimulus package. While over two-thirds support the plan to help homeowners refinance their mortgage, a 48%-36% plurality said that it will unfairly benefit those who have been irresponsible, echoing Rick Santelli's call to arms on CNBC. And although a narrow majority remains confident in Mr. Obama's goals and overall direction, 45% say they do not have confidence, a number that has been growing since the inauguration less than two months ago. With three-quarters saying that they expect the economy to get worse, it is hard to see these numbers improving substantially. There is no real appetite for increasing taxes to pay for an expanded health-insurance program. Less than half would support such an idea, which is 17% less than the percentage that supported government health insurance when Bill Clinton first considered it in March of 1993. While voters blame Republicans for the lack of bipartisanship in Washington, the fact is that they do not believe Mr. Obama has made any progress in improving the impulse towards cooperation between the two parties. Further, nearly half of voters say that politics in Washington will be more partisan over the next year. Fifty-six percent of Americans oppose giving bankers any additional government money or any guarantees backed by the government. Two-thirds say Wall Street will benefit more than the average taxpayer from the new bank bailout plan. This represents a jump in opposition to the first plan passed last October. At that time, 45% opposed the bailout and 30% supported it. Now a solid majority opposes the bank bailout, and 20% think it was a good idea. A majority believes that Mr. Obama will not be able to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term. Only less than a quarter of Americans believe that the federal government truly reflects the will of the people. Almost half disagree with the idea that no one can earn a living or live "an American life" without protection and empowerment by the government, while only one-third agree. Despite the economic stimulus that Congress just passed and the budget and financial and mortgage bailouts that Congress is now debating, just 19% of voters believe that Congress has passed any significant legislation to improve their lives. While Congress's approval has increased, it still stands at only 18%. Over two-thirds of voters believe members of Congress are more interested in helping their own careers than in helping the American people. When it comes to the nation's economic issues, two-thirds of voters have more confidence in their own judgment than they do in the average member of Congress. Finally, what probably accounts for a good measure of the confidence and support the Obama administration has enjoyed is the fact that they are not Republicans. Virtually all Americans, more than eight in 10, blame Republicans for the current economic woes, and the only two leaders with lower approval ratings than Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are Republican leaders Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. All of this is not just a subject for pollsters and analysts to debate. It shows fundamentally that public confidence in government remains low and is slipping. We face the possibility of substantial gridlock along with an absolute absence of public confidence that could come to mirror the lack of confidence in the American economy that the Dow and the S&P are currently showing. Mr. Schoen, formerly a pollster for President Bill Clinton, is the author of "Declaring Independence: The Beginning of the End of the Two Party System" (Random House, 2008). Mr. Rasmussen is president of Rasmussen Reports, an independent national polling company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Odd, that doesn't sound like Hustler magazine to me. Sounds like the truth. ********************************** This part was important: "Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Dan, it isn't just Rasmussen either: ************************** http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/64060.html Pew poll: Obama's public support is eroding By Steven Thomma | McClatchy Newspapers WASHINGTON — A new poll by the independent Pew Research Center for the People & the Press has found that President Barack Obama's popular support is eroding, with his approval rating dropping below 60 percent. "President Barack Obama's approval rating has slipped, as a growing number of Americans see him listening more to his party's liberals than to its moderates, and many voice opposition to some of his key economic proposals," the Pew Center concluded. Its new survey finds Obama's approval rating falling to 59 percent from 64 percent in February. It also finds the ranks of Americans who disapprove of the president's job performance rising, to 26 percent from 17 percent. Among those who registered a jump in disapproval were Republicans, up 15 percentage points, and independents, up 13 points, Pew found. The survey was taken among 1,308 adults last Monday through Thursday and has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points. One reason for the erosion of support could be that a plurality sees Obama aligned more with the liberal wing of his party as he pushes an agenda that calls for broad increases in government spending and taxes. Pew found that Americans think by 44 percent to 30 percent that the president listens more to liberals than to moderates in his party. The sentiment was a mirror image of what it was in January, when 44 percent thought he listened more to moderates and 34 percent thought he listened more to liberals. Since then, Obama has signed a $787 billion economic stimulus package and proposed a $600 billion-plus down payment for a health-care overhaul and raising taxes on wealthier Americans to pay for it. He also proposed a $3.55 trillion fiscal 2010 budget and projected that the federal budget deficit for the current fiscal year would hit a record $1.75 trillion, or 12.3 percent of the gross domestic product. The Pew poll is the latest finding that the president has lost some support as he's started to flesh out his governing agenda. A McClatchy-Ipsos poll last week found his approval rating dropping from 69 percent to 65 percent. An average of six public polls in the last few weeks — Pew, Gallup, Rasmussen, McClatchy-Ipsos, Newsweek and Fox — put Obama's approval rating at 60.3 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Its just a douche article with no valid information whatsoever in it except Obama might fall on his ass,which would make Cal happy and I dont even have an issue with that ,he's a Republican fine but if your going to post an article atleast find something with a shred of legitimate news to it other than this constant barage of BS. Dan ************************************************ Wasn't BS, Dan. And it doesn't make me happy. It makes me worried that more and more Americans are also changing their minds about Obama, for good reason. Sounds like Morris's article was pretty valid after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Pew found that Americans think by 44 percent to 30 percent that the president listens more to liberals than to moderates in his party. The sentiment was a mirror image of what it was in January, when 44 percent thought he listened more to moderates and 34 percent thought he listened more to liberals. He has proven that allready with the way he has allowed all of the pork spending on his budget and stimulus bills. He also wants to have the government to take control of all industries so why wouldn't he side with the far Left in his party, they all think alike. And while Obama is being worshipped abroad, Obama and the Far Left are memorializing Joseph Stalin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Sorry, Dan. But the article is interesting to me, in light of the high popularity ratings Obama had earlier, and the intense interest in noting his ratings. Not so much now. Hey, they could go back up if Obama genuinely solves some problems. I just do not like several of the solutions, and I worry about some of his actions and attitudes. I'm not saying he's satan, I'm saying I really disagree with his outlook, and with his serious lack of experience, it concerns me, and apparently more and more Americans as time goes on, about his "change". I might just be me, but this article certainly seems to be far more relevant than continued threads about Palin and her family... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I have to agree with this. Palin is old news and does not hold any position of power that will effect the direction of this country. She is a Governor. I think you underestimate the power that office holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 It's amazing how conservatives are suddenly concerned about our national debt after 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Your assumption is self-serving, for sure, but hardly accurate. The debt under Bush was manageable, and because of the war on terror. Obama's is NOT manageable, and is because of utopian socialist actions and grand, gigantic ideas that cost so much, he can't pay for them. Obama has quadrupled the national debt in only five months. This cannot be sustained. Gigantic difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I'm confused as to why we even keep a running tab or statistics for our "national debt.". Does anyone really think we're ever going to pay any of this back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Your assumption is self-serving, for sure, but hardly accurate. The debt under Bush was manageable, and because of the war on terror. Obama's is NOT manageable, and is because of utopian socialist actions and grand, gigantic ideas that cost so much, he can't pay for them. Obama has quadrupled the national debt in only five months. This cannot be sustained. Gigantic difference. To be fair Cal, the debt is unmanageable because of the policies put forth by Clinton and Bush. I do agree that Obama needed to see this and NOT spend this money, which was his mistake. I agree on that. Which is more proof all these fcks are running our country into the ground. ALL OF THEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I'm confused as to why we even keep a running tab or statistics for our "national debt.". Does anyone really think we're ever going to pay any of this back? Very true mz the pussy. I don't think the US can get that AMEX gold card we need. Shit and it had a $5,000 credit limit, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 To be fair Cal, the debt is unmanageable because of the policies put forth by Clinton and Bush. I do agree that Obama needed to see this and NOT spend this money, which was his mistake. I agree on that. Which is more proof all these fcks are running our country into the ground. ALL OF THEM. ************************************** Well, the debt is unmanageable because of the SIZE. The war on terror debt by Bush and other spending by Clinton was not good. But QUADRUPLING the debt in only 5 months as Obama has? And with Obama's health care plan, not even the Senate, with a Dem majority, has the votes to even come close to passing it, it's that bad, and that costly. Bush was a flop his second four years in a huge way, but seriously, our debt is so gigantic now, over 10 TRILLION bucks over how many years? And it's going ? to get a hell of a lot bigger? That's if Obama keeps his lofty promises and the Senate doesn't stop him... 4 x a large amount = disaster. That disaster part in on Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 please furnish proof that the nationa debt has quadrupled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-d...it-in-pictures/ Read it, admit it. worry about it... or, just attack/dismiss the source. Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 in september 2008 the dollar sign was removed from the national debt clock so it could accomadate debt over 10 trillion. In october ot was 10.2 trillion. As of today the national debt is 11.4 trillion. Where did you go to school? http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ http://www.usnews.com/blogs/new-money/2008...debt-clock.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Go back and -read- the article. What Obama is doing now, projected several years, gives us a quadrupled debt, it is impossible to sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Go back and -read- the article. What Obama is doing now, projected several years, gives us a quadrupled debt, it is impossible to sustain. so, in other words, your "source" PROJECTS that the national debt will quadruple, and Obma has NOT quadrupled the national debt in a matter of months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 No. go back and read the article. Calc everything Obama has done and is doing and will do, and over years, the debt goes berserk, given a ton of other factors, like population growth, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 The problem is wars can and do end. Social service only become a three headed monster with the passage of time. What seems like a heavy burden now will become a ball and chain a decade or two down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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