Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 https://nypost.com/2018/08/15/cuomo-says-america-was-never-that-great/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 How is that any different than MAGA, which by name implies America is not currently great? Y'all bitch a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 because we went backwards with your obaMao running the ship into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 MAGA - forward, positive thinking and goal oriented Cuomo and ilk - backwards & negative - defeatist thinking which is why it is surprising that the so called progressive party chooses words that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 7 hours ago, calfoxwc said: because we went backwards with your obaMao running the ship into trouble. Homie it's been going backwards for a lot longer than that. Including your golden calf, Ronnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, FairHooker11 said: MAGA - forward, positive thinking and goal oriented Cuomo and ilk - backwards & negative - defeatist thinking which is why it is surprising that the so called progressive party chooses words that way? Two ways of describing a person implying or outright saying America isn’t great. You can change the color on a ribbon wrapped around a nugget of dog crap and it will completely change the demeanor of the political tribes. “Oh it is red now so yum yum! That dog got anymore of these delicious belly chocolates for me?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, FairHooker11 said: MAGA - forward, positive thinking and goal oriented Cuomo and ilk - backwards & negative - defeatist thinking which is why it is surprising that the so called progressive party chooses words that way? Although Cuomo is trying to backtrack as fast as possible from his statement that Amercia was never really great because of the political fall out that statement gives a window into how he (and other liberals like him) actually thinks and feels about this country. I see many times liberals try to hide what they really stand for as they know it will hurt them politically but it slips out at times such as this with Cuomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just so we're clear - it's cool to call America not great so long as we're positive about it. edit: I always liked this scene, Steve. Solid call back. I wish they would have cut out the piano accompaniment and just ended with "but it could be". 1 minute ago, Westside Steve said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, tiamat63 said: Just so we're clear - it's cool to call America not great so long as we're positive about it. So is it okay to say we want to make the Cleveland Browns great again that's supposed to say the Cleveland Browns were always crap? One more positive than the other? To avoid any misunderstanding my answer is yes one is more positive than the other. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: So is it okay to say we want to make the Cleveland Browns great again that's supposed to say the Cleveland Browns were always crap? One more positive than the other? To avoid any misunderstanding my answer is yes one is more positive than the other. WSS Yeah but, it's pretty easy to quantify what is great and what is crap in the NFL. Also considering that it is, at heart, just a game. An important game to many of us, but just a game. Calling a country not great is a direct insult to what makes the country - the people. MY people, that includes you clowns as well, ARE great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Two ways of describing a person implying or outright saying America isn’t great. You can change the color on a ribbon wrapped around a nugget of dog crap and it will completely change the demeanor of the political tribes. “Oh it is red now so yum yum! That dog got anymore of these delicious belly chocolates for me?” i like the Zig Ziglar approach to life than that of say... being called a deplorable, embrace my white guilt, give $$ to the govt, til it hurts just to name a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 MAKE https://www.google.com/search?q=make&rlz=1C1JZAP_enUS709US709&oq=make&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2j69i60j0l2.5699j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 No offense meant Tia but it's all the game. Politics football you name it. The only important stuff is friends family our way of life and what we do on a daily basis, what we love, but we don't love Etc. If we didn't have Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow to tell us how wonderful or horrible life is we would never know. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: I couldn't stand that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Homie it's been going backwards for a lot longer than that. Including your golden calf, Ronnie. well, that is bs - here's ten top things Reagan accomplished https://learnodo-newtonic.com/ronald-reagan-accomplishments here's the ten top things your ObaMao accomplished (actually, failures, far more than ten): https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html http://martinoauthor.com/list-obama-failures/ The Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of this country. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavors. The Red, White and Blue’s epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president: #Scandals (Though both Obama and the MSM denied any occurred!): IRS targets Obama’s enemies Benghazi Spying on the AP The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme Sebelius demands payment The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree. Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets Solyndra New Black Panthers Voter Intimidation The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer Obama’s LIES about the Affordable Care Act “I’ll Pass My Own Laws” NSA Spying on American People Foreign Policy Lack of solidarity with Israel Disaster with the Arab Spring Crimea Leaving Iraq too soon and letting ISIS take over Handling of Syrian Red Line Calling ISIS “JV” Failing to Recognize ISIS as a Radical (or Devout) Muslim Movement Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits Lack of Confidence by NATO nations Signing a Disastrous Nuclear Deal with the Mullahs of Iran Paid $5 Billion & Released 5 Taliban Prisoners For Deserter Bergdahl Waging war by attacking Libya without Congressional approval Allowed the building of Chinese bases in the South China Sea and off the coast of Somalia at the entrance to the gulf of Aden 14. Paying ransom to Iranian for hostages- and using foreign currency in unmarked plane 15. Lying about paying ransom (which media ignored!) 16. Pays tribute to Japanese at Hiroshima on US Memorial Day 17. Obama trashed America 18 times on Asian Tour 18. Pushing the U.N. resolution condemning Israel for legally building houses in Jewish neighborhoods 19. Released $221 million to the Palestinian Authority in last few hours of presidency 20. Downed US drone taken by Iran, reverse engineered, and sent into Israel. Obama could have destroyed the drone instead of selling the United States and allies out by asking for the drone- which obviously was never returned. Domestic Policy Failure to secure the Border Illegals bringing guns, drug and diseases through the southern border Bowe Bergdahl swap Passing on the keystone pipeline 9 Trillion dollars more in debt Vast expansion of government Racial Division at all-time high Inviting Bomb Boy Ahmed to White House Disrespect for Cops Failed economic stimulus plan Constant disregard for the Constitution and tyrannical rule China overtook America as world’s largest economy Double Downgrade Housing policies failed to stop foreclosures Price of healthcare has drastically risen for those purchasing it Education policies failed to curb college costs Highest percentage of Americans on Food Stamps and Medicaid Record 92,898,000 Americans over 16 years not working Lowest Labor Force participation rate of 62.7% Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016 Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to Czar Positions Mismanagement and cover up of Terrorist shootings in San Bernardino, California Mismanagement of Gulf Oil Spill Disastrous Vetting Process of “Immigrants” from Muslim Nations Refusing to Listen to CIA/FBI that there is no way to properly vet certain immigrants from Muslim nations 27. Fort Hood Shooting 28. Colorado EPA Disaster 29. Veto of 911 Crime Bill- which was overturned 30. Worst economic recovery since the depression with anemic GDP numbers 31. Over 94 million Americans out of the workforce 32. Obama commutes sentence on Chelsea Manning 33. Obama commuted the sentence of FALN activist Oscar López Rivera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Yeah, I stopped reading at "Your Obama". I already told you, if you want discord with me respectfully like I have with Steve you will acknowledge three things. - I would more closely identify as a Libertarian - Only voted for one "liberal" candidate in my life and that was a local election. - Republicans are Neo-Liberals and have been for a long time. Both are trash. Get at me when you walk to chat, boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 look, you dissed Reagan and you were were wrong. You don't diss obaMao, so he's "your obaMao". "libertarian" all you want, but if it bitches about Trump and Reagan like a duck, it ignores obamao and higgardly like a duck, it's not an ignorant guess to guess that it's a duck. If you want discord with me respectfully like I have with Steve, you will admit that Reagan was a terrific Real American president, not "my golden calf". You reap what you sow, Tiam. That's life. I, OTOH, explained why you were wrong, and you wouldn't read why you were wrong. Have a nice "libertarian Liberal" day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, calfoxwc said: look, you dissed Reagan and you were were wrong. You don't diss obaMao, so he's "your obaMao". "libertarian" all you want, but if it bitches about Trump and Reagan like a duck, it ignores obamao and higgardly like a duck, it's not an ignorant guess to guess that it's a duck. If you want discord with me respectfully like I have with Steve, you will admit that Reagan was a terrific Real American president, not "my golden calf". You reap what you sow, Tiam. That's life. I, OTOH, explained why you were wrong, and you wouldn't read why you were wrong. Have a nice "libertarian Liberal" day. I wasn't wrong. I've "dissed" pretty much every President for the last 60 years... including your boogie man - Obama. Reagan is no exception. So...carry on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 ive read and absorbed american history. its TRUE history. Cuomo doesnt even know how right he was. The american people might be a different story, but the things we passively sat by and let our govt get away with in places like the middle east and south america......it does reflect on us to a certain extent. It just does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I wasn't wrong. I've "dissed" pretty much every President for the last 60 years... including your boogie man - Obama. Reagan is no exception. So...carry on? your higgardly was never president. carry on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 even trump has alluded to spme of our financial problems dating back to the reagan years. The seeds of the push for globalism started when we fully took the restraints off our monetary system. It began under nixon and started in earnest under reagan. Remember the 80's version of space farce? Anyway, like all presidents....theres good things that reagan did and bad things. Obama's no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 God damn Cal. He's being patient with you and you continue to act like a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, calfoxwc said: your higgardly was never president. carry on? This... makes zero sense. Is Hillary my boogie man or...? I don't recommend mixing strong liquor with too much sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 18 hours ago, tiamat63 said: How is that any different than MAGA, which by name implies America is not currently great? America has probably never been great in your lifetime, but your assumption that it’s not currently great is spot on. Bill Clinton used the MAGA angle once during his campaign, and the libs loved it. Trump picked it up and has ran with it from the start of his Presidential bid. Coumo may have just committed political suicide, as he backtracking as fast as he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: America has probably never been great in your lifetime, but your assumption that it’s not currently great is spot on. Bill Clinton used the MAGA angle once during his campaign, and the libs loved it. Trump picked it up and has ran with it from the start of his Presidential bid. Coumo may have just committed political suicide, as he backtracking as fast as he can. "Greatness" is subjective. But I consider greatness to be contained within fleeting moments of good action through-out ones life by those willing to do so. Every one of our citizens is capable of this. Yes, I have seen greatness in my people within my lifetime. "Beating" the Russians (Berlin Wall), The Human Genome Project, the open-ended freedom and launch of the internet, the compassionate and well natured responses to those afflicted by 9/11, (Getting Bin Laden) and electing a black man as President. Sure, I didn't vote for the guy. Thought he was another corporate apologist. But that's a milestone compared to where this country was just 60 years prior and something to be proud of. I like to think we're doing quite well, have improved from where we were and can continue to do so. You're wrong, our people have shown moments of true greatness in my lifetime. I pity those for feeling otherwise simply because of a narrow understanding of the political spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 19 hours ago, MLD Woody said: God damn Cal. He's being patient with you and you continue to act like a child. oh, there the sissy woodypeckerhead goes again - trying to make a "friend" by piling on. what an asswhole birdbrain you are, woodypeckerhead. You just can't stop being a screw-up, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: America has probably never been great in your lifetime, but your assumption that it’s not currently great is spot on. Bill Clinton used the MAGA angle once during his campaign, and the libs loved it. Trump picked it up and has ran with it from the start of his Presidential bid. Coumo may have just committed political suicide, as he backtracking as fast as he can. how can it be great when carter ruined our economy and was a complete do nothing good failure? and the clinton years were rife with scandal after scandal and mysterious deaths, and constant skunk stink from higgardly? then the years of obaMao and race baiting, corrupt dirty players running our IRS, DOJ, FBI, CIA and NSA, with them all fighting against obaMao's/the left's political opponents? Our only hope is more pro-CONSTITUTION judges, more of TRUMP and another REAGAN being president, and rid our government of all these corrupt poltiical hacks. exactly what the obamao names in the news are. dirty political corrupt opersatives. I hope every one of them loses their security clearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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