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1 hour ago, FairHooker11 said:

MAGA  - forward, positive thinking and goal oriented

Cuomo and ilk - backwards & negative - defeatist thinking

which is why it is surprising that the so called progressive party chooses words that way? 

Two ways of describing a person implying or outright saying America isn’t great. You can change the color on a ribbon wrapped around a nugget of dog crap and it will completely change the demeanor of the political tribes. “Oh it is red now so yum yum! That dog got anymore of these delicious belly chocolates for me?”

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1 hour ago, FairHooker11 said:

MAGA  - forward, positive thinking and goal oriented

Cuomo and ilk - backwards & negative - defeatist thinking

which is why it is surprising that the so called progressive party chooses words that way? 

Although Cuomo is trying to backtrack as fast as possible from his statement that Amercia was never really great because of the political fall out that statement gives a window into how he (and other liberals like him) actually thinks and feels about this country.  I see many times liberals try to hide what they really stand for as they know it will hurt them politically but it slips out at times such as this with Cuomo. 

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Just so we're clear - it's cool to call America not great so long as we're positive about it.   

 

edit:  I always liked this scene, Steve.  Solid call back.   I wish they would have cut out the piano accompaniment and just ended with "but it could be". 

 

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1 minute ago, tiamat63 said:

Just so we're clear - it's cool to call America not great so long as we're positive about it.   

So is it okay to say we want to make the Cleveland Browns great again that's supposed to say the Cleveland Browns were always crap? One more positive than the other?

To avoid any misunderstanding my answer is yes one is more positive than the other.

WSS

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7 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

So is it okay to say we want to make the Cleveland Browns great again that's supposed to say the Cleveland Browns were always crap? One more positive than the other?

To avoid any misunderstanding my answer is yes one is more positive than the other.

WSS

Yeah but, it's pretty easy to quantify what is great and what is crap in the NFL.    Also considering that it is, at heart, just a game.    An important game to many of us, but just a game.

Calling a country not great is a direct insult to what makes the country - the people.    MY people, that includes you clowns as well, ARE great.  

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1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said:

Two ways of describing a person implying or outright saying America isn’t great. You can change the color on a ribbon wrapped around a nugget of dog crap and it will completely change the demeanor of the political tribes. “Oh it is red now so yum yum! That dog got anymore of these delicious belly chocolates for me?”

 i like the Zig Ziglar approach to life than that of say... being called a deplorable, embrace my white guilt, give $$ to the govt, til it hurts just to name a few

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No offense meant Tia but it's all the game. Politics football you name it. The only important stuff is friends family our way of life and what we do on a daily basis, what we love, but we don't love Etc. If we didn't have Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow to tell us how wonderful or horrible life is we would never know.

WSS

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3 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

Homie it's been going backwards for a lot longer than that. Including your golden calf, Ronnie. 

well, that is bs - here's ten top things Reagan accomplished

https://learnodo-newtonic.com/ronald-reagan-accomplishments

here's the ten top things your ObaMao accomplished (actually, failures, far more than ten):

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html

http://martinoauthor.com/list-obama-failures/

The Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of this country. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavors. The Red, White and Blue’s epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president:

#Scandals (Though both Obama and the MSM denied any occurred!):

  1. IRS targets Obama’s enemies

  2. Benghazi

  3. Spying on the AP

  4. The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme

  5. Sebelius demands payment

  6. The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal

  7. The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree.

  8. Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets

  9. Solyndra

  10. New Black Panthers Voter Intimidation

  11. The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer

  12. Obama’s LIES about the Affordable Care Act

  13. “I’ll Pass My Own Laws”

  14. NSA Spying on American People

 Foreign Policy

  1. Lack of solidarity with Israel

  2. Disaster with the Arab Spring

  3. Crimea

  4. Leaving Iraq too soon and letting ISIS take over

  5. Handling of Syrian Red Line

  6. Calling ISIS “JV”

  7. Failing to Recognize ISIS as a Radical (or Devout) Muslim Movement

  8. Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits

  9. Lack of Confidence by NATO nations

  10. Signing a Disastrous Nuclear Deal with the Mullahs of Iran

  11.  Paid $5 Billion & Released 5 Taliban Prisoners For Deserter Bergdahl

  12. Waging war by attacking Libya without Congressional approval

  13. Allowed the building of Chinese bases in the South China Sea and off the coast of Somalia at the entrance to the gulf of Aden

     14. Paying ransom to Iranian for hostages- and using foreign currency in unmarked plane

     15. Lying about paying ransom (which media ignored!)

       16. Pays tribute to Japanese at Hiroshima on US Memorial Day

       17. Obama trashed America 18 times on Asian Tour

18. Pushing the U.N. resolution condemning Israel for legally building houses in Jewish neighborhoods

19. Released $221 million to the Palestinian Authority in last few hours of presidency

20. Downed US drone taken by Iran, reverse engineered, and sent into Israel. Obama could have destroyed the drone instead of selling the United States and allies out by asking for the drone- which obviously was never returned.

 Domestic Policy

  1. Failure to secure the Border

  2. Illegals bringing guns, drug and diseases through the southern border

  3. Bowe Bergdahl swap

  4. Passing on the keystone pipeline

  5.  9 Trillion dollars more in debt

  6. Vast expansion of government

  7. Racial Division at all-time high

  8. Inviting Bomb Boy Ahmed to White House

  9. Disrespect for Cops

  10. Failed economic stimulus plan

  11. Constant disregard for the Constitution and tyrannical rule

  12. China overtook America as world’s largest economy

  13. Double Downgrade

  14. Housing policies failed to stop foreclosures

  15. Price of healthcare has drastically risen for those purchasing it

  16. Education policies failed to curb college costs

  17. Highest percentage of Americans on Food Stamps and Medicaid

  18. Record 92,898,000 Americans over 16 years not working

  19. Lowest Labor Force participation rate of 62.7%

  20. Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism

  21. Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016

  22. Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to Czar Positions

  23. Mismanagement and cover up of Terrorist shootings in San Bernardino, California

  24. Mismanagement of Gulf Oil Spill

  25. Disastrous Vetting Process of “Immigrants” from Muslim Nations

  26. Refusing to Listen to CIA/FBI that there is no way to properly vet certain immigrants from Muslim nations

 27.  Fort Hood Shooting

 28.  Colorado EPA Disaster

  29. Veto of 911 Crime Bill- which was overturned

  30. Worst economic recovery since the depression with anemic GDP numbers

  31. Over 94 million Americans out of the workforce

  32. Obama commutes sentence on Chelsea Manning

   33. Obama commuted the sentence of FALN activist Oscar López Rivera

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Yeah, I stopped reading at "Your Obama".   I already told you, if you want discord with me respectfully like I have with Steve you will acknowledge three things.

- I would more closely identify as a Libertarian

- Only voted for one "liberal" candidate in my life and that was a local election.

- Republicans are Neo-Liberals and have been for a long time.  Both are trash.   

 

Get at me when you walk to chat, boo.  

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look, you dissed Reagan and you were were wrong. You don't diss obaMao, so he's "your obaMao".

"libertarian" all you want, but if it bitches about Trump and Reagan like a duck, it ignores obamao and higgardly like

a duck, it's not an ignorant guess to guess that it's a duck.

   If you want discord with me respectfully like I have with Steve, you will admit that Reagan was a terrific Real American president, not "my golden calf".

  You reap what you sow, Tiam. That's life. I, OTOH, explained why you were wrong, and you wouldn't read why you were wrong.

Have a nice "libertarian Liberal" day.

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Just now, calfoxwc said:

look, you dissed Reagan and you were were wrong. You don't diss obaMao, so he's "your obaMao".

"libertarian" all you want, but if it bitches about Trump and Reagan like a duck, it ignores obamao and higgardly like

a duck, it's not an ignorant guess to guess that it's a duck.

   If you want discord with me respectfully like I have with Steve, you will admit that Reagan was a terrific Real American president, not "my golden calf".

  You reap what you sow, Tiam. That's life. I, OTOH, explained why you were wrong, and you wouldn't read why you were wrong.

Have a nice "libertarian Liberal" day.

 

I wasn't wrong. I've "dissed" pretty much every President for the last 60 years...  including your boogie man - Obama.   Reagan is no exception.  

 

So...carry on?

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ive read and absorbed american history. its TRUE history. Cuomo doesnt even know how right he was. The american people might be a different story, but the things we passively sat by and let our govt get away with in places like the middle east and south america......it does reflect on us to a certain extent. It just does

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29 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

 

I wasn't wrong. I've "dissed" pretty much every President for the last 60 years...  including your boogie man - Obama.   Reagan is no exception.  

 

So...carry on?

your higgardly was never president. carry on?

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even trump has alluded to spme of our financial problems dating back to the reagan years. The seeds of the push for globalism started when we fully took the restraints off our monetary system. It began under nixon and started in earnest under reagan. Remember the 80's version of space farce? Anyway, like all presidents....theres good things that reagan did and bad things. Obama's no different. 

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18 hours ago, tiamat63 said:

How is that any different than MAGA, which by name implies America is not currently great? 

America has probably never been great in your lifetime, but your assumption that it’s not currently great is spot on.

Bill Clinton used the MAGA angle once during his campaign, and the libs loved it.

Trump picked it up and has ran with it from the start of his Presidential bid.

Coumo may have just committed political suicide, as he backtracking as fast as he can.

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8 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

America has probably never been great in your lifetime, but your assumption that it’s not currently great is spot on.

Bill Clinton used the MAGA angle once during his campaign, and the libs loved it.

Trump picked it up and has ran with it from the start of his Presidential bid.

Coumo may have just committed political suicide, as he backtracking as fast as he can.

"Greatness" is subjective.  But I consider greatness to be contained within fleeting moments of good action through-out ones life by those willing to do so.  Every one of our citizens is capable of this.

Yes, I have seen greatness in my people within my lifetime.     "Beating" the Russians (Berlin Wall),  The Human Genome Project, the open-ended freedom and launch of the internet, the compassionate and well natured responses to those afflicted by 9/11, (Getting Bin Laden) and  electing a black man as President.   Sure, I didn't vote for the guy.  Thought he was another corporate apologist.  But that's a milestone compared to where this country was just 60 years prior and something to be proud of.    I like to think we're doing quite well, have improved from where we were and can continue to do so.  

You're wrong, our people have shown moments of true greatness in my lifetime.   I pity those for feeling otherwise simply because of a narrow understanding of the political spectrum.  

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19 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

God damn Cal. He's being patient with you and you continue to act like a child. 

oh, there the sissy woodypeckerhead goes again - trying to make a "friend" by piling on.

what an asswhole birdbrain you are, woodypeckerhead. You just can't stop being a screw-up, can you?

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14 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

America has probably never been great in your lifetime, but your assumption that it’s not currently great is spot on.

Bill Clinton used the MAGA angle once during his campaign, and the libs loved it.

Trump picked it up and has ran with it from the start of his Presidential bid.

Coumo may have just committed political suicide, as he backtracking as fast as he can.

how can it be great when carter ruined our economy and was a complete do nothing good failure?

and the clinton years were rife with scandal after scandal and mysterious deaths, and constant skunk stink from higgardly?

then the years of obaMao and race baiting, corrupt dirty players running our IRS, DOJ, FBI, CIA and NSA, with them all fighting against obaMao's/the left's political opponents?

  Our only hope is more pro-CONSTITUTION judges, more of TRUMP and another REAGAN being president, and rid our government of all these corrupt poltiical hacks. exactly what the obamao names in the news are. dirty political corrupt opersatives.

  I hope every one of them loses their security clearances.

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