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37 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

The fact that anyone thinks a few Facebook pages changed the outcome of election is dumb.  If you have bought into that nonsense you should probably start wearing a helmet everywhere you go.

and, this screaming that Trump's opinion tweet about the nonsense fake investigation by mueller and his rabid little dem Trump haters..

that Sessions should end it... is just dumb, and they don't care.

Legal experts, like one from the Hoover Institute, say that "obstruction" claim is nonsense.

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9 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Tinfoil lined 🤖or with a crown🤴?

Better go with lead.

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3 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

Better go with lead.

except their necks couldn't hold up

Are Socialists Physically Weak? - The Atlantic

Jul 17, 2017 - Why Conservatives Find Life More Meaningful Than Liberals ... while the poor, strong men actually supported redistribution—suggesting that 

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2 hours ago, htownbrown said:

The fact that anyone thinks a few Facebook pages changed the outcome of election is dumb.  If you have bought into that nonsense you should probably start wearing a helmet everywhere you go.

i think the facebook stuff is over ur head mate, i think this whole business about what the russians are trying (and succeeding admirably) to do here is just way over ur pay grade. 

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1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said:

i think the facebook stuff is over ur head mate, i think this whole business about what the russians are trying (and succeeding admirably) to do here is just way over ur pay grade. 

Of course that's it, tell me what I'm missing.  I'm already sitting down for this groundbreaking information.

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19 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

Of course that's it, tell me what I'm missing.  I'm already sitting down for this groundbreaking information.

you made the statement..."a couple facebook posts didn't change the election". So ur already way behind the rooskies. Long term they prob give no fuks who the Potus is so long as they can help drum up faux resentment, like through social media posts claiming things that aren't true or heavily bent. You're just not seeing through this sht. It's fine. Most americans wont' either. I fully expect democrats to snide and smirk when it comes out that one or more of their candidates was helped by either the Russians or <insert foreign entity>…….and by doing so completely playing in to what other countries want to do here.

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So then anyone on facebook can disrupt the election process with false information is what your saying?  Or is there a specific deviancy that can only be duplicated by Russian/foreign scoundrels?  Seems like this capability has been there from the inception of facebook/social media.  Maybe I'm wrong because I've never had, nor will I, a facebook account.  It seems to me though, that if you're getting your political information from random strangers on the internet you may just be the low hanging fruit that has always been available to be picked by the first person to grab it.  Your argument from what I can tell is that Russia should not be able to pick that fruit.  My point is you couldn't even give a semi-quantitative answer as to how many of the fruits have been picked by Russia to know if there actually was an effect on the election.  I'd guess not many.

As far as the resentment goes, it's been there since the moment you could read any random idiot's thoughts on just about anything.  That comes from extrapolation of small data sets across a whole.  And that's on the user's themselves.  Extract Russia and that would continue full speed ahead.  You would have to claim a lot of things exclusively Russian for that to be true.  A thousand Russian trolls would be nothing more than a drop in a bucket. 

 

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1 hour ago, htownbrown said:

So then anyone on facebook can disrupt the election process with false information is what your saying?  Or is there a specific deviancy that can only be duplicated by Russian/foreign scoundrels?  Seems like this capability has been there from the inception of facebook/social media.  Maybe I'm wrong because I've never had, nor will I, a facebook account.  It seems to me though, that if you're getting your political information from random strangers on the internet you may just be the low hanging fruit that has always been available to be picked by the first person to grab it.  Your argument from what I can tell is that Russia should not be able to pick that fruit.  My point is you couldn't even give a semi-quantitative answer as to how many of the fruits have been picked by Russia to know if there actually was an effect on the election.  I'd guess not many.

As far as the resentment goes, it's been there since the moment you could read any random idiot's thoughts on just about anything.  That comes from extrapolation of small data sets across a whole.  And that's on the user's themselves.  Extract Russia and that would continue full speed ahead.  You would have to claim a lot of things exclusively Russian for that to be true.  A thousand Russian trolls would be nothing more than a drop in a bucket. 

 

hey, im not claiming they're doing anything we haven't done. But if you're seeing the vitriol in this country and not putting two and two together, well.....that's on you then. Ofc Russia shouldn't be able to set up false inflammatory accounts and quite literally payroll 10's of thousands of people to do nothing all day but shtstart across our social media. We've done far worse in other countries, like assassinate leaders that didn't turn over their countries resources to one of our "great American companies". As much as I lament our behavior, doesn't mean we can allow it to happen here. 

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12 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said:

hey, im not claiming they're doing anything we haven't done. But if you're seeing the vitriol in this country and not putting two and two together, well.....that's on you then. Ofc Russia shouldn't be able to set up false inflammatory accounts and quite literally payroll 10's of thousands of people to do nothing all day but shtstart across our social media. We've done far worse in other countries, like assassinate leaders that didn't turn over their countries resources to one of our "great American companies". As much as I lament our behavior, doesn't mean we can allow it to happen here. 

Yeah, ok, we can agree on some of that.  But when you call someone a stupidfvck you kind of have to stay on the topic of why you called them a stupidfvck when they ask you to explain.  So in your estimation how many voters did the Russians turn one way or the other?  1000s?  10000s? 100000s? 1000000s?  Where is the divergence  of Russian trolls and American trolls that ultimately decided/influenced the election?  These questions are paramount to the validity of your argument.  I'm sure the traffic these sites generated is stated somewhere for you to claim the Russians responsible for our lack of civil decency, I'd love to see it.

See how this work?  If I just take your word for it, I become the low hanging fruit.  So there's nothing on me until you present evidence.  The minute you do the case can be made....

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41 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

Yeah, ok, we can agree on some of that.  But when you call someone a stupidfvck you kind of have to stay on the topic of why you called them a stupidfvck when they ask you to explain.  So in your estimation how many voters did the Russians turn one way or the other?  1000s?  10000s? 100000s? 1000000s?  Where is the divergence  of Russian trolls and American trolls that ultimately decided/influenced the election?  These questions are paramount to the validity of your argument.  I'm sure the traffic these sites generated is stated somewhere for you to claim the Russians responsible for our lack of civil decency, I'd love to see it.

See how this work?  If I just take your word for it, I become the low hanging fruit.  So there's nothing on me until you present evidence.  The minute you do the case can be made....

According to the libs, the Russkies on social media swayed the voters to vote for Trump.

Nevermind the countless millions of illegal, fraudulent, and dead voters that were voting for Hitlery.

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21 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

that they're playing both sides trying to sht start a civil war

I think you’re right.

 

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The timing of Hillary's and the DNC"s email release is what cost Hillary the election, and honestly rightly so she and the DNC are corrupt cnts. But had the Russians released those emails before the primaries, you all would likely be grousing here daily about president Sanders. That email release so close to the gen election ensured too many dems/independants stayed home. If you all don't want to acknowledge that, fine. I know myself I stayed home cause of the indefensible sht I saw in those emails. You all know full well those sanders people who tried to disrupt the DNC by doing sht like throwing stink bombs on the floor during speeches, didnt' vote for Hillary. So how many independants do you think those emails pissed off? Had the same amt of people who voted for Obama, about 70m (to Hillary's 62m...came out in the last election Hillary would have won. 

So this online campaign by the Russians isn't about influencing elections, they know that's something that's difficult to do just from trolling......but they are absolutely affecting the discourse in this country when people read sht they "think" is being said by the opposition when it's really some cnt rooskie sitting in Stalingrad running internet alts like Cals and JAFB's. 

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how do you guys not get this? It's right infront of your faces. Cal has literally posted links in the past to sht I've personally seen brought up as coming from a facebook troll operation.

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6 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

The timing of Hillary's and the DNC"s email release is what cost Hillary the election, and honestly rightly so 

I don't think so. She is the least attractive candidate, physically and performance-wise, of anybody I can remember. I think the biggest problem is just plain old Obama fatigue. Happened with George W bush happened with Bill Clinton on and on. Voters are stupid and thank that a president can make them happy. 4 or 8 years later they figure the next one can do it. Like any independent candidate Trump had that vibe of being a complete outsider oh, the guy to go shake up Washington and change things. A lot of people really want change, I just don't think they'd understand  what they want specifically to change. He has in some ways but found out That the ruling class would never let that happen. No Hillary voters cared about her emails or the dirt in the DNC. Like Trump supporters don't care who he screws. We are in an unprecedented period of peace and prosperity right now but the Democrats need to win so they scream about that crap. I assume they will have their candidate head office soon enough and the wheels will come off the economy. They like that. Then they can promise to help everybody.

I think one of the biggest factors against Hillary was that the Negroes weren't all fired up to get one of their own in office and didn't vote in the huge numbers as they did with Obama. That really could have pushed her over the edge and a couple of close States.

WSS

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1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

I think one of the biggest factors against Hillary was that the Negroes weren't all fired up to get one of their own in office and didn't vote in the huge numbers as they did with Obama. That really could have pushed her over the edge and a couple of close States.

WSS

I agree.

But I eliminated negroes and coloreds from my vocabulary, you cracker.😂😜

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3 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

Hey Mueller:

 

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look how tiny and frail those hands are. I thought when the whole thing a out his hands xame out it was just troll......but it isnt. 

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Does the president have to grip a basketball now?  Man, those goalposts just keep sliding back.

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1 hour ago, htownbrown said:

Does the president have to grip a basketball now?  Man, those goalposts just keep sliding back.

What you talking about? This is Supertrump.................faster to a speeding pen on another $1trilllion in debt, builds high walls without a single peso, tells wonderful whoppers while chewing on Whoppers and leaps small (immigrant) children in a single bound.🤴

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1 hour ago, htownbrown said:

Does the president have to grip a basketball now?  Man, those goalposts just keep sliding back.

with a windmill jam from just inside the foul line, yes. 

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Geez, I guess I see where the extreme disappointment and hate comes from now....

18 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

What you talking about? This is Supertrump.................faster to a speeding pen on another $1trilllion in debt, builds high walls without a single peso, tells wonderful whoppers while chewing on Whoppers and leaps small (immigrant) children in a single bound.🤴

 

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1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said:

What you talking about? This is Supertrump.................faster to a speeding pen on another $1trilllion in debt, builds high walls without a single peso, tells wonderful whoppers while chewing on Whoppers and leaps small (immigrant) children in a single bound.🤴

economy booming, unemployment down to 3%, lowest since 1966.... remains of our soldiers coming back from NK,

not one of our embassies has been overrun/Americans murdered while your dirty corrupt obaMao and higgardly, refused to help them.... increased pay for our military.....

the list of excellent accomplishments is getting longer and longer all the time.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/6/giving-trumps-accomplishments-their-due/

 

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

I’m told by one of my favorite millennials that many of her friends have not heard anything at all positive about President Trump.

The left, which turned a blind eye to the flagrant immorality of Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton, is ordering evangelical Christians to abandon Mr. Trump. Before too many well-meaning people take the bait, a reminder of what Mr. Trump has accomplished might be in order.

First, America ducked a very large bullet — a reboot of the Obama administration under Hillary Clinton. Although President Obama had a more “presidential style” in some respects than Mr. Trump, he was a disaster. Hillary would have been more of the same.

 

Here are a few other things that Mr. Trump has done:

• Appointed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and more than 75 other constitutionally sound federal judges, 30 of which are serving.

• Reinstated an expanded Mexico City Policy blocking foreign aid from being used for abortions.

• Cracked down on illegal immigration and “sanctuary cities.” As Attorney General Jeff Sessions put it: “The lawlessness, the abdication of the duty to enforce our laws, and the catch and release policies of the past are over.”

• Issued an order killing two federal regulations for every new one. In actuality, 16 were cut for every new one in his first year, saving billions.

• Engineered a historic tax cut that will save money for more than 80 percent of American households.

• Withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of U.S. governance by international bureaucrats.

• Reversed onerous Obama environmental rules that gave the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) ham-handed authority to destroy the coal industry and abrogate landowners’ rights.

• Kick-started America’s energy sector by curtailing regulations, facilitating the Keystone XL Pipeline and opening up vast federal areas to oil and gas exploration.

• Presided over an economic and stock market boom, lowered unemployment and brought manufacturing jobs back to America from overseas.

• Rebuilt the nation’s military, destroyed ISIS and faced down North Korea’s “Rocket Man.”

• Issued an order enforcing First Amendment protections for religious liberty.

• Restored the freedom of military chaplains to espouse biblical morality, and essentially reversing Mr. Obama’s transgender military policy.

• Revoked the Education Department’s order that public schools allow gender-confused males access to girls’ restrooms and locker rooms.

• Cracked down on sex trafficking. President Trump signed a law allowing states to move against sex-ad Internet sites, and the Justice Department on April 6 seized and shut down Backpage.com, which carried ads for prostitution, including trafficked children.

• Overhauled the mismanaged Veterans Administration and giving veterans more health care choices.

• Replaced Obamacare incrementally, beginning with a repeal of the individual mandate.

• Imposed sanctions on Venezuela’s socialist dictatorship and revising Mr. Obama’s deals with communist Cuba.

• Recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and repairing damage that Mr. Obama did to the U.S.-Israel relationship.

• Worked with Central American nations to crack down on MS-13 gangs.

OK, let’s stop here, though it only scratches the surface.

A question for Mr. Trump’s conservative critics, including some well-meaning evangelicals who rightly express concern over character: Would you really prefer to have a “more presidential” chief executive who promotes socialism, open bordeers, abortion, sexual anarchy and the criminalization of Christianity?

Here are just a few likely outcomes had Mrs. Clinton won:

• An explosion in government funding for abortion.

• The LGBT political agenda on steroids, with the Justice Department attacking Christian business people who won’t bow to Baal.

• Tax increases — not a tax cut — to fund a vast expansion of nanny government.

• Obamacare morphing into a single-payer, socialist government monopoly.

• Federal agencies like the EPA and the IRS re-weaponized against political opponents.

• More radical judges like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor. Maybe even Chai Feldblum on the Supreme Court.

• Hordes of new federal bureaucrats drawn from the ranks of MoveOn.org, NARAL, the ACLU, the Human Rights Campaign and the Women’s March.

• “Pink hat day” throughout the federal government on Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s birthday. (No reported plan; it just makes sense.)

• Massive illegal immigration, along with the Justice Department attacking states that have strong voter ID laws.

• A shutdown of all inquiries into Clinton corruption, such as missing emails, Russian money flowing into the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton-Russian connection in the 2016 election.

• A naive foreign policy that would have emboldened Russia, China, North Korea and Iran to test American resolve.

Finally, think back to Election Night 2016 and what passed for reporting. Instead of the undisguised gloom over Mr. Trump’s victory, a Hillary win would have produced smug grins and giggles all around, except at Fox.

Say what you will about Mr. Trump. He spared us that and much more.

• Robert Knight is a Washington Times contributor and the author of “A Strong Constitution: What America Would Look Like If We Followed the Law” (djkm.org, May 2018).

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Washington Times. Yep-I saw where they landed on the chart.

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Who put the "land" in Fantasyland? Why cal of course.

"3% unemployment"...lol

On 7/27/2018 at 7:04 AM, Westside Steve said:

Simple. You and your merry band of crooks...

We should tally up indictments sometime. I'll even spot you the difference in years... President Obama's 8 to your boy's 2.

On 7/30/2018 at 10:20 AM, Westside Steve said:

Agreed. I'm not sure collusion is any kind of a crime nor anything anybody wouldn't do but Rudy doesn't need to muddy the waters. The media does. 😉

Collusion is a layman's term...

The crime is conspiracy... and it's now in plain view for any without their head up their a$$.

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2 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Who put the "land" in Fantasyland? Why cal of course.

"3% unemployment"...lol 

We should tally up indictments sometime. I'll even spot you the difference in years... President Obama's 8 to your boy's 2.

Collusion is a layman's term...

The crime is conspiracy... and it's now in plain view for any without their head up their a$$.

my bad. It is actually 3.8%, from a June report.

asswhole. lol

 

May jobs report: Unemployment down to 3.8%, payrolls up by 223,000 ...

https://www.cbsnews.com › MoneyWatch › Work
 
Jun 1, 2018 - Unemployment dropped to 3.8 percent, its lowest figure in 18 years. ... are predicting that this year will see a total of four hikes instead of three.

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10 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Collusion is a layman's term...... and it's now in plain view for any without their head up their a$$.

Well not gonna happen over here then. We haven't even gotten past the "He's not lying" stage yet.😍

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10 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Who put the "land" in Fantasyland? Why cal of course.

"3% unemployment"...lol

We should tally up indictments sometime. I'll even spot you the difference in years... President Obama's 8 to your boy's 2.

Collusion is a layman's term...

The crime is conspiracy... and it's now in plain view for any without their head up their a$$.

Sorry the DNC behave badly. I'm sure it's Putin's fault. Also I hear that Putin his really bad, or something.

WSS

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