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Rudy would do best at this point to stop taking interviews.   Bordering on, " yeaaaahhh... but what is collusion anyway?"   At this point. 

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14 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

Rudy would do best at this point to stop taking interviews.   Bordering on, " yeaaaahhh... but what is collusion anyway?"   At this point. 

Agreed. I'm not sure collusion is any kind of a crime nor anything anybody wouldn't do but Rudy doesn't need to muddy the waters. The media does. 😉

WSS

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1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Ah, that would be congress holding him by the neck Cal. And he hasn't fully implemented the authorized sanctions as yet.

If it ever came to a down and dirty fight between Putin and Trump, Putin would make quick work of him.

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47 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

If it ever came to a down and dirty fight between Putin and Trump, Putin would make quick work of him.

Verbally and physically.👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

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Well I guess we need to change the tune here. 

"Colusion is not illegal (just in case I was part of the colusion)"-DJT

What's next? 

"I did not conspire? Oh, too big a word and that IS illegal. Never mind"-DJT

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/10/25/tucker_carlson_source_podesta_brothers_and_manafort_not_trump_central_figures_in_mueller_probe.html

  TUCKER CARLSON: We're beginning tonight with a story we just learned a few hours ago, a story that amazed us. Last night on this show we told you about how The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm, co-founded by Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta and his brother Tony had been sucked into independent counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of alleged Russian interference in American politics.

Before last night's show was even over, we got an email from a man with direct personal knowledge of that story. The man, whose name we can't reveal for the time being, is a former senior employee of The Podesta Group. He worked there for years. He said he was motivated to contact us by the disgust he felt watching media coverage of the Russia story. Not only were most reporters getting it wrong, he said, they were getting it backward. The Russians were in fact deeply involved in American politics, but the real story had almost nothing to do with the 2016 presidential campaign.

Intrigued, we agreed to meet with a source today. He just left our offices here in Washington a couple of hours ago. The story he told us is astonishing. We will be following up on it, confirming more of it and bringing you details throughout this week and after.

But first, here's an overview of what he told us. Media reports describe Paul Manafort as a central figure in the Russia investigation due to the several months he spent as Donald Trump's campaign chairman. According to our source, that's only half true. Manafort is indeed at the center of this investigation, but not because of his ties to Trump. In fact, Paul Manafort spent years working with The Podesta Group on behalf of Russian government interests. That relationship extends back to at least 2011 when our source claims Manafort had dinner with both Podestas, Tony and John. In the years following, our sources says he saw Paul Manafort in The Podesta Group offices "all the time." At least once a month. Manafort was not there to socialize, he was representing Russian business and political interests, who sought to influence Capitol Hill, Hillary Clinton's State Department, and the Obama administration.

Our source describes Manafort bringing what he called a parade of Russian oligarchs up to the Congress where they met with members and their staffs. But the central effort to extend Russian influence was focused on the executive branch, the Obama administration. The vehicle through which Paul Manafort worked for the Russians was a shell group called the 'European Center for a Modern Ukraine.'

The group supposedly was based in Belgium, but it had no actual offices there. It had in fact only two employees, both of them based in Ukraine. Their telephone number in Brussels rang in Kiev, it was a sham. Yet, it did have a presence here in Washington. The European Center for a Modern Ukraine was a major client of The Podesta Group. Now, why did the Russians choose The Podesta Group? Well because both Podestas were close to the Clintons and Hillary was then Secretary of State. She could get things done for the Podesta's Russian clients.

It was influence peddling, the most obvious kind. For example, our source says that at John Podesta's recommendation, his brother Tony hired a man named David Adams. Before joining The Podesta Group group, Adams worked at the State Department as Assistant Secretary of State for Legislative Affairs. He was also chief legislative advisor to Hillary Clinton. As part of his job, Adams personally briefed Hillary Clinton every day. He aided in the confirmation of at least 122 political nominees at State. By hiring him in 2013, our source says, The Podesta Group got a direct liaison between their offices and by extension their Russian clients, and Hillary's State Department.

Sometimes, our source said, ties between The Podesta Group and the Clintons were explicit. Tony Podesta spoke regularly to Hillary Clinton while she ran the State Department. Our source remembers Podesta's assistant announcing that "Secretary Clinton is on the line."

At one point in either 2013 or maybe early 2014 our source says a meeting was held that included both Tony Podesta and a representative of the Clinton Foundation. The explicit subject of that meeting? How to assist Uranium One, that's the Russian-owned company that controls 20% of American uranium production, and whose board members gave more than $100 million to the Clinton Foundation. As our source put it, Tony Podesta was basically part of the Clinton Foundation.

Now, apparently, there was not a lot of pretending about this internally at The Podesta Group. According to our source, Manafort was clear, crystal clear that Russia wanted to cultivate ties to Hillary Clinton in the belief she was likely to become president. These links to Hillary were apparently quite valuable to the Russian. Our source believes that the Russian money Manafort funneled to The Podesta Group greatly exceeds the roughly one million they were officially paid. That's what he said. Some of these payments he indicated could be hidden kickbacks that would be hard for investigators to trace. Our source described The Podesta Group books as "a treasure trove, and highly secret."

He told us The Podesta Group had no board overseeing it and that all financial decisions internally were made by Tony Podesta personally. The group's employees he said, included a person whose only official job was managing Tony Podesta's art collection. It would be obviously pretty easy for an organization like that to conceal financial transactions. Now, the source we spoke to has been interviewed extensively by Robert Mueller's independent investigators. The press account of Mueller's investigation is still framed as a hunt for collusion between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the government of Russia.

Our source says investigators are in fact very interested in Manafort's behavior while he ran the Trump campaign, but otherwise, that description is mostly bogus. The investigation has broadened now to determine which people and which organizations in Washington have spent years working secretly as de facto operatives on behalf of Russian government and business interests. The Podesta Group is chief among these.

"They are more focused on facilitators of Russian influence in this country," says our source, then they are on election collusion. "The Podesta Group he says, "is in their crosshairs." We should note the obvious, that many of the lobbying efforts our source described to us today are not yet illegal necessarily and that tells you a lot about modern American politics.

But if true, the story we heard overturns much of what we think we know about Russian attempts to influence American policy. We believe our source is telling the truth. We don't think he has reason to lie to us. The facts we've been able to check have turned out to be accurate. We believe our source has exposed behavior that undermines this country, but that, unfortunately, is common here in Washington. We plan to proceed carefully as we report this out, but we will proceed bringing you everything went find. We suspect there's a lot there.

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so, people involved with HIDING URANIUM ONE, including dirty traitor higgardly and dirty traitor obaMao...

put their doj, fbi, and intel hacks heading up those agencies, to use their own people (deep state hacks), to launch

an "investigation" that featured TRUMP for political reasons.

deep state doo-doo they are standing in, folks.

  The whole truth is, they were desperate to have higgardly keep the secret of their secret corruption...by being

elected.

   All hell would break loose when Trump had a chance of actually winning...then we elected him !

so they had to have a fake reason for a fake "investigation" naming Trump all over the media, going after anyone and everyone

possible to pretend it was Trump as the bad actor instead of them.

  It's about months of cover-up from the fbi, intel and doj bad actors. and the corrupt, worthless msm is in their backpocket.

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I hear they're trying to outlaw straws.

I hope it doesn't happen, otherwise what would the Mueller investigation team have to grasp?

 

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Dream on Trumpettes. Days of reckoning are here.

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4 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Dream on Trumpettes. Days of reckoning are here.

Which decade?

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it's okay, Tex - just click your heels three times, and say "There's no place like home..."

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Can you guys breath under all that sand. I know you can't see.

Ostrich head sand - I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT STICKING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND DOESN'T WORK Judgmental Bookseller Ostrich
 

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The liberals need a big long word to pretend their revenge over losing the election will be liberally ok soon:

 

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You liberals need help to get our President Trump Make America Great Again medicine go down?

 

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A spoonful of lies has been enough bad medicine to last a lifetime for this country,  if we survive him.

 

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we survived your obaMao and mafia chums in our gov for eight years. It's our turn to lead.

Get over it - you lost - you pay the cost - elections DO have consequences, even when YOUR LIBERAL SIDE LOSES !

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3 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

we survived your obaMao and mafia chums in our gov for eight years. It's our turn to lead.

Get over it - you lost - you pay the cost - elections DO have consequences, even when YOUR LIBERAL SIDE LOSES !

McCain was president? How did I miss that.

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2 hours ago, htownbrown said:

does this not perfectly illustrate what ive been telling u goof knuckles for over a year now? that they're playing both sides trying to sht start a civil war, whichbtgey talked YEARS ago about trying to accomplish

 

fuk me americans are truly stupid

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1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said:

does this not perfectly illustrate what ive been telling u goof knuckles for over a year now? that they're playing both sides trying to sht start a civil war, whichbtgey talked YEARS ago about trying to accomplish

 

fuk me americans are truly stupid

You've told me nada and I've told you nada.  Stop gassing yourself.

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12 hours ago, htownbrown said:

You've told me nada and I've told you nada.  Stop gassing yourself.

nope, sorry...even made a thread about this the other week. Been saying from the beginning they were wanting to start a civil war in america. Ive known that for over 7 years

 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/12/american-civil-war-in-2010-russian-academic-says/amp

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2 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

nope, sorry...even made a thread about this the other week. Been saying from the beginning they were wanting to start a civil war in america. Ive known that for over years

Funny thing is that despite differences of opinion, there's not a person on here I wouldn't sit down and have a beer with and in Cal's case go plink some gophers or crows with a .22 and then have some beers (I don't know about this squirrel eatin' bidness though😂). Or sit and listen to Steve play and have a couple of beers with him.

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Plus we could invite this guy after trump builds his wall. He'll be retired then.🤩

 

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The fact that anyone thinks a few Facebook pages changed the outcome of election is dumb.  If you have bought into that nonsense you should probably start wearing a helmet everywhere you go.

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31 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

The fact that anyone thinks a few Facebook pages changed the outcome of election is dumb.  If you have bought into that nonsense you should probably start wearing a helmet everywhere you go.

Tinfoil lined 🤖or with a crown🤴?

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