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nonsense. We are trending toward a civil war, of sorts. There isn't two armies, etc.

alex jones is a nutjob, granted.

but trending toward a "civil war" has merit - the left demands, more and more pro-violence to accrue it... permanent

power over everything in America. They demand their years of leftwing president. But when the American peoples' pendulum swings back to a conservative president, they raise absolute hell and want to ruin that president, stop him from continuing to be president,

harass any voter, and any Pres Trump admin member, to nasty violent means, threatening....

So, in effect, it is a "civil war" - a leftwing takeover of control that they refuse to give up.

They are even introducing obaMao as the real president of the U.S. More and more, it's sedition.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/01/american-culture-new-civil-war/

 

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depends on the neighborhood. We had Trump signs a few places well after the election - no problem, but we are kinda out in the country.

  The bigger question is, are good people to hide from intimidation? Terrorized into not openly campaigning for someone

running for office? Frightened to go to a rally of a candidate the left hates?

  Fearful of hanging a flag. That is the first small victories by the dangerous left brownshirt types, who are being

openly spurred on by some top corrupt politicians - obamao, higgardly, mad maxine, the list keeps getting longer and longer.

Then there is the acting out by hollywood druggie types.

   When we have to stop being who we are - then they win. What kind of flag, btw? Gadsden?

https://gadsdenandculpeper.com/bigpolitical_edited-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=15

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https://www.holocaust.cz/en/history/final-solution/general-2/the-persecution-of-german-jews-after-the-nazi-seizure-of-power/

"The coming to power of Adolf Hitler (link in Czech) and the NSDAP saw the beginning of a process in which Jews were excluded from German society, bullied and persecuted."

"The period immediately following the Nazi seizure of power was marked by „spontaneous“ persecution, above all by SA units, who in various places conducted intimidation and terror campaigns, and physically attacked the Jewish population. The first Jews, in particular immigrants from Eastern Europe, were sent to concentration camps. From the earliest days of the new regime, various decrees relating to Jews started to be issued, limiting their ability to carry out their professions, enter public facilities and so on. Many of these decrees were issued by local authorities, and numerous German communities put up signs forbidding Jews from entering their territory. "

"One of the chief demands of all anti-Semitic programmes was that Jews should be squeezed out of the economy. On the 1st of April 1933, the Nazi regime announced a boycott of Jewish tradesmen, craftsmen, lawyers and doctors, accompanied by intensive anti-Semitic propaganda that claimed the boycott was merely reciprocation for the hostile attitude of foreign Jews towards the new German regime. "

"Immediately after the takeover, artists, scientists and other significant public figures of Jewish origin were pushed out of their functions. Many of them chose to emigrate, the best-known being the physicist Albert Einstein, creator of the theory of relativity, who emigrated to the US."

Systematic efforts of forcing Jews out of other professions also began. Many lawyers, doctors and university professors had to leave their jobs.

 

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if I had a place out in the boonies somewhere completely off the grid......i'd say meh, let it burn. At this point it is almost exactly like having watched Palestinians and Israeli's fuk with each other for decades. At some point you just wanted both to wipe each other out. I'd almost like nothing more than for the far right and the far left to just annihilate each other. 

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So Woody I didn't watch the whole thing, sorry, but I'm guessing you didn't either. Usually just posting something from Alex Jones is enough to freak people out. Alex Jones is a little bit crazy. Still I'm wondering what in particular in this rant do take issue with?

WSS

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1) I'm laughing at how insane he is

2) Then you think about posters here that, while not as extreme, post very similar things

3) Finally realizing that this crazy person unfortunately has a large audience. Far left and far right groups have lost all grips with reality, and that's creeping more into the political discourse in our country 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

1) I'm laughing at how insane he is

2) Then you think about posters here that, while not as extreme, post very similar things

3) Finally realizing that this crazy person unfortunately has a large audience. Far left and far right groups have lost all grips with reality, and that's creeping more into the political discourse in our country 

 

 

Just asking what in particular about this rant you found outrageous.

WSS

 

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Uuhhh... The part where he says left wing people and groups have said this "is the last July 4th", that they're planning violent actions, etc etc etc. I'd say that's kind of crazy. Not really outraged at it, just posting here to see the responses...

He's just a clown putting on a show for views. And to sell his supplements and prepped products. I get that. But the further divided this country gets, the more people believe this nonsense. Either directly or indirectly. Just look at this board. 

Any real progress or improvement now not only has to see two sides compromise (the usual) but also has to fight through the fringe groups on both sides spouting nonsense and not accepting facts. He seems more prevalent than he should be.

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51 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Look at Cal. He says Jones is a "nutjob". But then says a civil War "has merit" and proceeds to post multiple times about why it does (or he's just spamming the thread, who knows). 

 

the woodypeckerhead doesn't understand anything. Nobody said a civil war has merit. I said the idea that the left

is/could be trending toward a distant civil war has merit, since historically, as I showed, civil wars have occured when

one side tries to destroy and nullify the other side. When that one side tries to accrue permanent power by rigging elections in their favor. I even posted a link about how the nazis went after the Jews - the brownshirts drove them out of public life, harrassed them out of buildings.

   This is what woodpecker's leftwing heroes are doing. Exactly, even to the point of violence/threatening violence.

Threatening kidnapping, even prominent dems saying that even though we let them have their eight years, they refused to let us have our two years. They wanted to impeach our chosen President from day one, because they lost the election.

That is tyranny-oriented, and now the left is taking up harrassment, threats, ignoring ms-13 murders and rapes, and illegal immigrant murders and rapes.... and obamao's gov "declared war" on all political orgs that they didn't agree with. They tried to ruin them, render them ineffective. Now, they are trying to destroy the NRA at every turn.

  That is the beginning of the mentality they only THEY are allowed to rule.

That is tyranny. People just wearing Trump hats are getting beaten up, assaulted with drinks, screaming close to their ears,

harrassed out of restaurants, Sarah Huckabee's kids have been threatened with kidnapping, calls have been made for

Trump's son to be kidnapped and put in a jail with pedo...

what the hell?

how is saying that that is TRENDING toward an eventual civil war.

Go google "trending" woodypecker. Stop being a birdbrain.

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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/is-america-headed-for-a-new-kind-of-civil-war

“We keep saying, ‘It can’t happen here,’ but then, holy smokes, it can,” Mines told me after we talked, on Sunday, about Charlottesville. The pattern of civil strife has evolved worldwide over the past sixty years. Today, few civil wars involve pitched battles from trenches along neat geographic front lines. Many are low-intensity conflicts with episodic violence in constantly moving locales. Mines’s definition of a civil war is large-scale violence that includes a rejection of traditional political authority and requires the National Guard to deal with it. On Saturday, McAuliffe put the National Guard on alert and declared a state of emergency.

Based on his experience in civil wars on three continents, Mines cited five conditions that support his prediction: entrenched national polarization, with no obvious meeting place for resolution; increasingly divisive press coverage and information flows; weakened institutions, notably Congress and the judiciary; a sellout or abandonment of responsibility by political leadership; and the legitimization of violence as the “in” way to either conduct discourse or solve disputes.

 

To test Mines’s conjecture, I reached out to five prominent Civil War historians this weekend. “When you look at the map of red and blue states and overlap on top of it the map of the Civil War—and who was allied with who in the Civil War—not much has changed,” Judith Giesberg, the editor of the Journal of the Civil War Era and a historian at Villanova University, told me. “We never agreed on the outcome of the Civil War and the direction the country should go in. The postwar amendments were highly contentious—especially the Fourteenth Amendment, which provides equal protection under the law—and they still are today. What does it mean to deliver voting rights to people of color? We still don’t know.”

She added, “Does that make us vulnerable to a repeat of the past? I don’t see a repeat of those specific circumstances. But that doesn’t mean we are not entering something similar in the way of a culture war. We are vulnerable to racism, tribalism, and conflicting visions of the way forward for our nation.”

Anxiety over deepening schisms and new conflict has an outlet in popular culture: in April, Amazon selected the dystopian novel “American War”—which centers on a second U.S. civil war—as one of its best books of the month. In a review in the Washington Post, Ron Charles wrote, “Across these scarred pages rages the clash that many of us are anxiously speculating about in the Trump era: a nation riven by irreconcilable ideologies, alienated by entrenched suspicions . . . both poignant and horrifying.” The Times book reviewer noted, “It’s a work of fiction. For the time being, anyway.” The book’s author, Omar El Akkad, was born in Egypt and covered the war in Afghanistan, the Arab Spring, and the Ferguson protest as a journalist for Canada’s Globe and Mail.

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https://www.thenation.com/article/the-ways-to-destroy-democracy/

With the disappearance of a free, critical media and the subordination of law-enforcement agencies, the path was open for a massive expansion of political corruption at every level of the regime. Ullrich makes good use of recent research to underline the fact that the Nazi regime was, among other things, a kleptocracy; it was dependent on patronage and clientelism all the way down the line, since the formal procedures for state appointments and the rules of conduct for the occupants of high office were scrapped or bypassed in favor of a personal style of rule. The confiscation or forcible takeover of Jewish businesses lined the pockets of the party’s leaders; they also benefited from seizing the property of oppositional institutions like the socialist-oriented trade unions, the Social Democratic Party, and many others.

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Obama inauguration: We will remake America, vows President Obama

What Obama said about "fundamentally transforming" the nation

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-ways-to-destroy-democracy/

Hitler’s seizure and remaking of the state was buttressed by a wholesale reorganization of the education system and an effort to redefine German culture.

bill ayers | COMMON CORE

Obama's real education legacy: Common Core, testing

 

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