jcam222 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Is a really talented football team. Hell we have studs aplenty. QB - an actual accurate guy with playoff experience in Tyrod with Mayfield in the wings WR - Gordon and Landry wow RB - Hyde/Chubb and the 3rd down Duke. TE - Njoku set for a serious sophomore year with teams scrambling to cover Gordon and Landry. On the defensive side LB - Kirksey, Kendricks, Collins and Schober! DE- Garrett and Ogbah (mix in some Kendricks) DB I think is the biggest question mark outside of LT. With Ward and then Peppers playing in position I think the secondary will surprise. I fully believe this team is about to shock the hell out of the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 I sincerely hope you are right but I am again reminded of one of my favorite quotes from that renowned American philosopher Mike Tyson: "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." Let's see how this team does when they get punched in the mouth and can they win two games in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 I probably have this realization once a week. It almost doesn't seem real, right? I'm not stupid, and I realize we haven't played a single game or gone through the injury gauntlet of training camp or the preseason, but we have a TEAM now. I mean, who has better receivers than us? Not many teams, right? We have a new secondary (thank God). Peppers goes to strong safety (THANK GOD). We have killer linebackers, AND depth. We now have running backs, including a veteran bell cow (Hyde), a dual threat in Duke, and possibly the best rookie RB in the draft. I'm not sure people quite realize how good Chubb can be. He's nasty folks. Do we have some holes? Of course, we couldn't fix EVERYTHING from a winless season in just a few months, but we came pretty close. Joe Thomas retiring after injury just kills me, but we'll figure it out. We have potential studs at key positions and that's something positive. And honestly, what's the best part? We appear to have a team that's going to be FUN to watch. And that's the whole friggin point, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 My biggest surprise is that it's got to be August already. Certainly sounds like August!🤩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted June 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 3 hours ago, mjp28 said: I sincerely hope you are right but I am again reminded of one of my favorite quotes from that renowned American philosopher Mike Tyson: "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." Let's see how this team does when they get punched in the mouth and can they win two games in a row. We got this. Every team in the NFL gets punched in the mouth, hell kicked in the balls too. This is a team that looks like it stands back up and kicks your butt anyway! I'm fully on the hype train. lol I may even be the conductor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 9 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: I probably have this realization once a week. It almost doesn't seem real, right? I'm not stupid, and I realize we haven't played a single game or gone through the injury gauntlet of training camp or the preseason, but we have a TEAM now. I mean, who has better receivers than us? Not many teams, right? We have a new secondary (thank God). Peppers goes to strong safety (THANK GOD). We have killer linebackers, AND depth. We now have running backs, including a veteran bell cow (Hyde), a dual threat in Duke, and possibly the best rookie RB in the draft. I'm not sure people quite realize how good Chubb can be. He's nasty folks. Do we have some holes? Of course, we couldn't fix EVERYTHING from a winless season in just a few months, but we came pretty close. Joe Thomas retiring after injury just kills me, but we'll figure it out. We have potential studs at key positions and that's something positive. And honestly, what's the best part? We appear to have a team that's going to be FUN to watch. And that's the whole friggin point, right? 1) lots of teams have better recievers than us. Josh Gordon was one of the best recievers in the nfl in 2013. This next season is 2018. Landry is not a top 20 reciever in the nfl. Coleman sucks. 2) Peppers being demoted to the lesser/less important of the two safety positions doesn't mean he won't suck still. And our corners still suck. 3) Nick chubb wasnt even the best rb on his own college team so I doubt he'll be the best rookie rb in the entire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, Tacosman said: 1) lots of teams have better recievers than us. Josh Gordon was one of the best recievers in the nfl in 2013. This next season is 2018. Landry is not a top 20 reciever in the nfl. Coleman sucks. 2) Peppers being demoted to the lesser/less important of the two safety positions doesn't mean he won't suck still. And our corners still suck. 3) Nick chubb wasnt even the best rb on his own college team so I doubt he'll be the best rookie rb in the entire league. On 1) your completely full of Sh!t Gordon and Landry are a top 3 duo 2) Our corners still suck you are basing on nothing but straight trolling 3) Chubb is a stud AND we have Hyde. Duke is one of the best 3rd down backs in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Josh Gordon stats - he was a proven commodity way back when, still must prove he can play well in a 16 game season again without screwing up. Games Receiving Rushing Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 40 37 344 179 3089 17.3 15 95 4.5 77.2 5 88 0 34 17.6 2.2 0.1 3177 15 1 21 2012 21 CLE WR 13 16 13 96 50 805 16.1 5 71 3.1 50.3 52.1% 805 5 1 6 2013*+ 22 CLE WR 12 14 14 159 87 1646 18.9 9 95 6.2 117.6 54.7% 5 88 0 34 17.6 6.3 0.4 1734 9 0 11 2014 23 CLE wr 12 5 5 47 24 303 12.6 0 32 4.8 60.6 51.1% 303 0 0 2 2015 Missed season - Violation of league substance abuse policy 2017 26 CLE wr 12 5 5 42 18 335 18.6 1 54 3.6 67.0 42.9% 335 1 0 2 Jarvis Landry stats - still some good potential upside. Games Receiving Rushing Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 64 57 570 400 4038 10.1 22 71 6.3 63.1 26 119 1 22 4.6 1.9 0.4 4157 23 14 33 2014 22 MIA WR 14 16 11 112 84 758 9.0 5 25 5.3 47.4 75.0% 2 -4 0 4 -2.0 -0.3 0.1 754 5 7 7 2015* 23 MIA WR 14 16 14 166 110 1157 10.5 4 50 6.9 72.3 66.3% 18 113 1 22 6.3 7.1 1.1 1270 5 1 9 2016* 24 MIA WR 14 16 16 131 94 1136 12.1 4 71 5.9 71.0 71.8% 5 17 0 13 3.4 1.1 0.3 1153 4 2 10 2017* 25 MIA WR 14 16 16 161 112 987 8.8 9 49 7.0 61.7 69.6% 1 -7 0 -7 -7.0 -0.4 0.1 980 9 4 7 1 playoff game - full playoff gamelogs The BROWNS secondary should be improved but how much? The BROWNS backfield should be more than adequate and deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Man, I know Gordon has been gone for quite a while but it's somewhat staggering to think that he's had ONE touchdown in almost the last FIVE YEARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: Man, I know Gordon has been gone for quite a while but it's somewhat staggering to think that he's had ONE touchdown in almost the last FIVE YEARS. and he has played 10 games since then....his yards/target(hes been targeting a ton in those 10 games) is quite poor. So for almost 2/3rds of the season he has played since 2013, hes actually been quite mediocre. This idea that he is definately a super elite wideout based off of one great season in 2013 is absurd. Even if he stays off drugs/etoh its not at all clear what we are getting. The rest of jcams response was just trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Man, I know Gordon has been gone for quite a while but it's somewhat staggering to think that he's had ONE touchdown in almost the last FIVE YEARS. One touchdown and hundreds of joints later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 13 hours ago, Tacosman said: and he has played 10 games since then....his yards/target(hes been targeting a ton in those 10 games) is quite poor. So for almost 2/3rds of the season he has played since 2013, hes actually been quite mediocre. This idea that he is definately a super elite wideout based off of one great season in 2013 is absurd. Even if he stays off drugs/etoh its not at all clear what we are getting. The rest of jcams response was just trolling. lol I was trolling? Are you off your meds? So let's just talk DB's , your are psychic and know Ward sucks before he ever plays a down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Josh Gordon is the greatest WR since Jerry Rice. Untouchable in almost every aspect of the game. He was unmercifully punished up until now... and he's pissed off for greatness. It's showtime- but first it's Hard Knocks on HBO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Here is an article on projected impacts of our newest additions to the team. Comments/speculations? https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/ContentGallery/Ranking-the-projected-impact-of-Cleveland-Browns-newcomers-118983131/#118983131_10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 11 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Here is an article on projected impacts of our newest additions to the team. Comments/speculations? https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/ContentGallery/Ranking-the-projected-impact-of-Cleveland-Browns-newcomers-118983131/#118983131_10 We have added a TON, including playmakers on both sides of the ball, significant depth, & a solid veteran presence throughout. This season will be fun! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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