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4 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

And Jim Brown won nothing until the Browns put a high-performance passing attack around him with Frank Ryan throwing to Gary Collins and Paul Warfield. 

Well Jim Brown did win 8 of 9 NFL rushing titles during his reign but yes only ONE ring......before he decided to go play army man in the Dirty Dozen.

The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport. 

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9 hours ago, mjp28 said:

The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport. 

There is that!  We got screwed by the Steelers and Broncos when we had Kosar.

.....and it was the Packers & Cowboys.....we beat the Colts.

- using my brand new laptop right now.  just got it set up.  isn't it great?   (my Vaio crapped out a couple of weeks ago)

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10 hours ago, mjp28 said:

Well Jim Brown did win 8 of 9 NFL rushing titles during his reign but yes only ONE ring......before he decided to go play army man in the Dirty Dozen.

The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport. 

I said it a bunch of times to the guys who wanted us to draft Barkley. RBs don't win championships, at least not many unless they have a great team around them like Emmett Smith. 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/history/leaders/_/stat/rushlead

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3 hours ago, hoorta said:

I said it a bunch of times to the guys who wanted us to draft Barkley. RBs don't win championships, at least not many unless they have a great team around them like Emmett Smith. 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/history/leaders/_/stat/rushlead

The Browns can't even win a fukcking game.

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14 hours ago, Orion said:

There is that!  We got screwed by the Steelers and Broncos when we had Kosar.

.....and it was the Packers & Cowboys.....we beat the Colts.

- using my brand new laptop right now.  just got it set up.  isn't it great?   (my Vaio crapped out a couple of weeks ago)

NFL Championships in the Jim Brown era, I was ages 6 to 14 back them I remember the later years!

1957 NFL Detroit Lions (4) 59–14 Cleveland Browns Briggs Stadium 55,263
1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (1) 23–17 (OT) New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,185
1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (2) 31–16 New York Giants Memorial Stadium 57,545
1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (3) 17–13 Green Bay Packers Franklin Field 67,325
1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (7) 37–0 New York Giants "New" City Stadium 39,029
1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (8) 16–7 New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,892
1963 NFL Chicago Bears (8) 14–10 New York Giants Wrigley Field 45,801
1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (4) 27–0 Baltimore Colts Cleveland Municipal Stadium 79,544
1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (9) 23–12 Cleveland Browns Lambeau Field 50,777

The BROWNS were champions once and runnerup twice.

And look at the NY football Giants the Buffalo Bills of their day. The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.

 

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3 hours ago, mjp28 said:

NFL Championships in the Jim Brown era, I was ages 6 to 14 back them I remember the later years!

1957 NFL Detroit Lions (4) 59–14 Cleveland Browns Briggs Stadium 55,263
1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (1) 23–17 (OT) New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,185
1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (2) 31–16 New York Giants Memorial Stadium 57,545
1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (3) 17–13 Green Bay Packers Franklin Field 67,325
1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (7) 37–0 New York Giants "New" City Stadium 39,029
1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (8) 16–7 New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,892
1963 NFL Chicago Bears (8) 14–10 New York Giants Wrigley Field 45,801
1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (4) 27–0 Baltimore Colts Cleveland Municipal Stadium 79,544
1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (9) 23–12 Cleveland Browns Lambeau Field 50,777

The BROWNS were champions once and runnerup twice.

And look at the NY football Giants the Buffalo Bills of their day. The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.

 

The Steelers certainly were "in the picture" in that they did exist....but they just sucked.

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1 hour ago, The Gipper said:

The Steelers certainly were "in the picture" in that they did exist....but they just sucked.

I was referring mainly to the playoff picture back then, no wild cards either.

But from 1933 - 1970+ they royally sucked......but don't try and tell a steelrz fan that. :lol:

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4 hours ago, mjp28 said:

 

The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.

 

As I recall the Cowboys kept us out of some championship games back then.

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56 minutes ago, mjp28 said:

I was referring mainly to the playoff picture back then, no wild cards either.

But from 1933 - 1970+ they royally sucked......but don't try and tell a steelrz fan that. :lol:

After 1970 is, to them, when The Big Bang occurred.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Orion said:

As I recall the Cowboys kept us out of some championship games back then.

The Cowboys started in 1960, knocked the BROWNS out in 1967 and won the first super bowl in 1971 and because America's Team...... (((barf))).

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