Westside Steve Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 So there's 5 minutes of our lives we won't be getting back... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermeck08 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Haslem had nothing to do with it, no influence whats so ever Ticket sale spike and merchandise demand is insane...plus, despite losing our best player- the browns are the talk of the league. Farmer is the greatest GM ever ! What player could the browns draft that might create some buzz, start a new conversation, or distract the sports world for awhile...atleast until all the investigations clear our ownership ? Bermeck ("he just asked questions".... Yeah, B S ... mr farmer- look for my email invite to my FF league...you wizard you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 I am so ridiculously torn on the situation. I have chastised Bridgewater all year and yet, for some reason I think he may actually be the best QB of the bunch now. Damn it, we suck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Who gives a flying fuck. Manziel is the choice. Quit acting like a bunch of bitches.I'm not bitching. If true Jimmy made the right call.WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felixx Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ah, no worries. Truth is always ridiculed in its intial stage Here's another quick factoid: It was the original intention of the producers of Draft Day to feature... the Buffalo Bills... (cue Twilight Zone music) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermeck08 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Stupid video or not It was a "splash" pick to end all "splash picks" A first year GM, new HC, new staff.... New org chart for the franchise??? It might be gay to call it a conspiracy , but what the hell do you call it??? We trade out of 4 - pass on the best WR ...knowing all along Gordon will be gone.?? unexplainable. It's a nice distraction for farmer as well.... We blew it....farmer was betting on another top receiver being there after his trade...so they went DB. From that point on it was "shock the world Thursday night, then tank the draft" ... Everyone is happy. 4-12 Try to win next year....what's another season ?. Really ? Bermeck (tired of losing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Stupid video or not It was a "splash" pick to end all "splash picks" A first year GM, new HC, new staff.... New org chart for the franchise??? It might be gay to call it a conspiracy , but what the hell do you call it??? We trade out of 4 - pass on the best WR ...knowing all along Gordon will be gone.?? unexplainable. It's a nice distraction for farmer as well.... We blew it....farmer was betting on another top receiver being there after his trade...so they went DB. From that point on it was "shock the world Thursday night, then tank the draft" ... Everyone is happy. 4-12 Try to win next year....what's another season ?. Really ? Bermeck (tired of losing) Tired of losing? It sounds like your hoping for it. Whether you think you can, or you think can't, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDawgFan13 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The negativity is just about to the point of being downright stupid! Are the Browns going to win the Super Bowl this season? Uh...no! So, rather than tank the draft by trying to replace Gordon with a rookie for 1 season, they stuck to their plan and filled pretty much every other hole they had. This team is loaded with talent. And they still don't know the severity of Gordon's looming suspension. None of us know even half the details. This could be a situation that gets overturned on appeal or reduced suspension. If the Gordon situation was not in play, then you all would be praising Farmer for this draft! Have a little faith and support your team and management group! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Who gives a flying fuck. Manziel is the choice. Quit acting like a bunch of bitches.very ironic with that particular post.....lmao. Did it hurt your feewings cause he isn't getting the dstartinf nods a few days after the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermeck08 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 I understand the optimism, trust me, I do But when week 1 gets here...and we can't score 10 points- against a shitty steeler defense...we will all be pissed. I figured we would start 1-3... Realistic...now, without a big-time threat outside- and the introduction of JF (who you know everyone wants to face plant)... 0-4 looking you right in the face...and the prospect of YET another 4 win season Maybe I'm getting older....freakin had it. Bermeck (the teams that dedicate to the run can't, won't... Win anymore...not consistently ...our D is good, but not dominating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 I understand the optimism, trust me, I do But when week 1 gets here...and we can't score 10 points- against a shitty steeler defense...we will all be pissed. I figured we would start 1-3... Realistic...now, without a big-time threat outside- and the introduction of JF (who you know everyone wants to face plant)... 0-4 looking you right in the face...and the prospect of YET another 4 win season Maybe I'm getting older....freakin had it. Bermeck (the teams that dedicate to the run can't, won't... Win anymore...not consistently ...our D is good, but not dominating) Look, I'm as bummed as anyone that Josh Gordon might be out next year but how many games did we win with our big time threat outside? Four, and the reason for that was because we couldn't run the damn football, leading to an inability to keep the other offense off the field, which led to a gassed defense that routinely collapsed in the fourth quarter. And ther is still a possibility that Gordon won't be out of all next season: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29282 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The amusing part is that the OP called it a "hard hitting documentary" I am not actually certain if I have ever seen a bigger piece of fluff in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCDawg82 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I mean, he DOES need to beat Hoyer out. Right now Hoyer is the starter. You DO want the player who gives you the best chance to win on the field correct? That being said. I dont believe it will take Johnny long AT ALL to beat him out. He's been cut from 3 teams without a damaged knee. And thats CUT, as in, he didn't make the three deep depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Should have read the comments on this thread before wasting five minutes of my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Java Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I have faith that Manziel will turn the Browns into the dynasty of the next 10 years. Good times ahead! I wouldn't even be surprised if Manziel started wearing fur coats. This should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 When you Johnny Lovers post videos like this, it doesn't help your case. I saw lots of things in that video that in the NFL will 1) get him killed, 2) turn the ball over, 3) ultimately be a bust............... The more I see these montages the more I wish we would have taken Carr in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Java Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-0xjZood0 AWESOME!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Out of all of the Johnny Football highlight videos I have seen, this one probably most exemplifies why someone would think JF will be a bust in the NFL, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yeah D Bone... That's the same thing we said when he came to A&M. He lead all QB's last year with a 73.5% completion % from the pocket. He's a smart dude. He'll adapt and adjust his game. If you said the same thing we are saying now, then clearly he never did adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Mods - can we combine all these "New fan here, JF is AMAZING!!" threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 When you Johnny Lovers post videos like this, it doesn't help your case. I saw lots of things in that video that in the NFL will 1) get him killed, 2) turn the ball over, 3) ultimately be a bust............... The more I see these montages the more I wish we would have taken Carr in the 2nd. ^+1 Not necessarily Carr, but I wouldn't have been upset with Bridgewater. Yeah D Bone... That's the same thing we said when he came to A&M. He lead all QB's last year with a 73.5% completion % from the pocket. He's a smart dude. He'll adapt and adjust his game. If he doesn't he won't even last as long as RG III, it will only take one of those extreme cuts at the wrong time to get a blown out knee- and that will take away his #1 asset, mobility. BTW, he throws a ton of off balance passes that are interceptions waiting to happen in the NFL. Manziel was clocked at what 4.6? Most of the slow NFL corners run a 4.5. Out of all of the Johnny Football highlight videos I have seen, this one probably most exemplifies why someone would think JF will be a bust in the NFL, lol. The fanboys see what they want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Mods - can we combine all these "New fan here, JF is AMAZING!!" threads? I'll turn that over to Zombo- and I don't disagree. Like we haven't seen enough JF highlight reels already to form a semi-intelligent opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Not hating on Manziel, just getting bored with having to trawl through the endless threads about him. We did pick a bunch of other guys - it's interesting to think about how Pettine's D is going to be set up, using Gilbert and Haden as shutdown corners, who's going to be responsible for shutting down the run if and when the RB gets to the edge since apparently that's not the CB's job. We also have a bit of a WR problem, and we've got a bunch of nobodies trying to be the guy - can any of them step up? Manziel's game will either translate to the NFL and he'll be a superstar, or it won't and he'll be a bust. We'll know in 6 months which it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I am a long time (disgruntled) Cowboys fan and i have never been into college football until one day i saw Manziel on tv and i was amazed at the plays he makes. Most exciting player i have ever seen. He makes the game fun. Very envious because i honestly thought he was staying in Texas. Alot of dissappointed Cowboys and Texan fans. On a side note, i think he should sit the first year. Calm the hype down a little, let him mature and learn. Romo sat for 3 seasons before his first start. Keep building the pieces around him. The problem is the 2,000 people that bought season tickets (presumably to see JF play) are going to be screaming for him the second Hoyer throws an interception. I agree completely... I do not think he is ready to play yet and even if Hoyer isn't ready on day 1, the other backups should start in front of him. He needs to play hard in the Pre-Season and understand how much faster the NFL is going to be. I think they should let him start at least once with the first team(maybe 3rd or 4th game) just so he can see how fast and how punishing those DB's can be and maybe he will learn to find the open man, instead of running. he needs work, no doubt... BobPOunds! Yes JF, you only need to be unelusive but once to get seriously hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Whether you like him or not, you have to wish him success. If he fails so be it. If he is successful we should be happy. Absolutely... when it is Johnny's turn. Until then I plan to wish Mr. Hoyer much success. My apologies, its actually a Manziel Gray LOL... regardless of the color... there's really a mag dedicated to Game Cocks? Anyways, i kindof find it offensive when people compare Johnny with other QBs. There is no comparision. If that offends you, then you have no shot at Everlasting here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 What I liked on this set of downs was that he stayed in the pocket as long as he could. I watched him going through processions to at least 2nd and even 3rd receiver on one of the downs.. I think the word you were looking for was "progressions"... I know you are having fun, but you are pretending you are evaluating a QB by watching the QB. You are not seeing the whole field, so you cannot tell whether progressing from his primary to his secondary was warranted. On the first series first pass here's what I saw: - In the initial sideline view it appeared Evans (split right) was his primary because JM looked right first. The corner was playing off so it looked like if Evans curled at the line to gain, then the first down was a cinch. I can't be sure, but I do not think Evans curled... it may not have been an option for him. - The endzone replay shows that next JM looks at double crossing routes just beyond the line to gain; he wisely does not force a throw into three defenders, but a moment later the receiver crossing right to left breaks clear by two steps and the throw is not made. - JM then pulls the ball down and takes off... at least he slid at the end. That JM misses a lot of throw opportunities was well documented by analyst after analyst leading up to the draft. The kid is exciting, but he is also raw. The is, after all, still a kid having only played 2 years at the college level. And he is about to play against bigger faster stronger players than he has ever seen. Fans, even his most ardent ones, would be wise to wait patiently for his time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'll be honest, before the draft, some may remember that I had "Anyone But Johnny Scramble" as my signature. I would've hated the pick at #4, but what we did at 4 (player and extra 1st round pick) and where we ultimately took Johnny, was perfectly fine with me. I believe he is worth the risk at 22. Good "+1" worthy post... BIG difference in acceptability at 22 rather than 4... I agree completely... I do not think (JM) is ready to play yet... Well, we have that in common We will win a Super Bowl when we have a Championship Team. Hopefully Johnny plays a role in that, just like RW did for Seattle. Difference being Wilson is a consummate team QB. While there's an ego there to be sure, it is not in your face. He has good fundamentals, and if he learns to stand just an extra 1 second in the pocket before bring the ball down and running, he will last a lot longer in the AFC North... He needs to take a piece of humble pie and realize that his Johnny Football persona is going to hurt his team if he goes down with a separated shoulder because he went head to head with an NFL linebacker... He has good fundamentals, he needs to sit in the back seat for a while and learn how the NFL works... True, but as you tame a phenom like Manziel, do you risk eliminating that which made him the prospect he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Damn, JAFBF... ugliest elf yet... The amusing part is that the OP called it a "hard hitting documentary" I am not actually certain if I have ever seen a bigger piece of fluff in my life. Production values were outstanding tho... and liked the soundtrack to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckin Futz Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Brown fans are gonna have to get ready for us Aggie fans/students/alums. We are coming along for the ride. People like MLD Woody have no idea on what your about to witness and get in a QB. You are very very lucky and you dont even know it yet. Im going to bookmark this thread so I can witness some crow eating by MLD and it will be very soon. Thanks for telling us how lucky we are. What would we do without you turds here to explain the game of football to us? Ass hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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