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Gambling on NFL and other sports coming soon to a casino near you

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Yesterday the United States Supreme Court struck down a 1992 Federal  law that prevented gambling on sports anywhere but Nevada, which was grandfathered in.  This legal battle had been going on for years, led by New Jersey who had wanted to allow  sports gaming in their casinos for years now, but were prohibited from doing so.

I heard reports that within 5 years, at least 32 states will start allowing gambling on sports.  There are all kinds of questions about how this new status will turn out, how it will be regulated  (either locally with each state, or federally...which the sports leagues would prefer).

I do not know what will happen in Ohio.....but I suspect that before long, you will be able to go to the Rocksino, the JACK casinos downtown and at Thistledown, and wager on most any sporting even you can.

Another factor that the leagues will now argue about it is that  the games are their "intellectual property" and that casinos around the country cannot profit off of their "property" without the leagues getting some cut of the action. 

So, there you go boys and girls, you will not have to just go to Vegas/Reno/Tahoe to wager on NFL games, NBA, MLB etc.  Or college sports.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2018/05/15/the-5-biggest-winners-and-one-loser-in-the-supreme-court-sports-gambling-decision/#65b9131b1af0

 

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It's likely that you'll be able to place wagers at any lottery terminal as well.  No need to go to a casino.  The lottery may be granted the opportunity to offer sports betting on the internet too.

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1 hour ago, Suomi said:

It's likely that you'll be able to place wagers at any lottery terminal as well.  No need to go to a casino.  The lottery may be granted the opportunity to offer sports betting on the internet too.

we used to have a thing called sports action (betting the NFL) through the Oregon lottery it was cool once the line was set there was no moving it (not saying it moves that often) but still it was great but they got rid of it so we could get some first round NCAA B-Ball tourney games assholes 

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2 hours ago, Suomi said:

It's likely that you'll be able to place wagers at any lottery terminal as well.  No need to go to a casino.  The lottery may be granted the opportunity to offer sports betting on the internet too.

Well....that may be another step.    However, I understand that you can basically do that now out of some outfit in Costa Rica.....mentioned in the article I linked.

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First tell me when a casino is coming to be near me. Have to drive up through Ft. Worth I-35 construction traffic to reach Winstar Casino in southern Oklahoma.

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Maybe like Canada. They have Proline books everywhere there is lottery for sports betting. I used to play it weekly when I traveled there for business 

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8 hours ago, Suomi said:

It's likely that you'll be able to place wagers at any lottery terminal as well.  No need to go to a casino.  The lottery may be granted the opportunity to offer sports betting on the internet too.

One thing for sure the sports gaming world will never be the same, New Jersey is almost ready now to jump in and grab their share of the spoils.

In general the average Joe only has a certain amount of disposable income for gambling so the state lotteries, casinos, race tracks and others will be figuring out how to hang on to or grab any additional monies they can.

Some possible losers Las Vegas after a virtual  lifetime monopoly on the sports gaming racket and your local bookies......if they still exist, I'm sure that there are a few left.  ;)

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Look how long it took and how many hurdles had to be jumped just to get 4 brick and mortar casinos and a handful of racinos here in Ohio. Call me skeptical, but I don't have much faith in the Ohio state government to actually take advantage of this ruling and do anything worthwhile.

Besides, outside of a few cities built around gambling, I don't think the idea of placing sports bets at brick and mortar casinos or bars is going to be as big as it's being propped up to be. Why would I drive out of my way to make a sports bet when I could just download an app like Bovada or betonline and place bets on my phone?

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2 hours ago, mjp28 said:

One thing for sure the sports gaming world will never be the same, New Jersey is almost ready now to jump in and grab their share of the spoils.

In general the average Joe only has a certain amount of disposable income for gambling so the state lotteries, casinos, race tracks and others will be figuring out how to hang on to or grab any additional monies they can.

Some possible losers Las Vegas after a virtual  lifetime monopoly on the sports gaming racket and your local bookies......if they still exist, I'm sure that there are a few left.  ;)

Ghoolie will be moving to a ghost town...  

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3 hours ago, jbluhm86 said:

Look how long it took and how many hurdles had to be jumped just to get 4 brick and mortar casinos and a handful of racinos here in Ohio. Call me skeptical, but I don't have much faith in the Ohio state government to actually take advantage of this ruling and do anything worthwhile.

Besides, outside of a few cities built around gambling, I don't think the idea of placing sports bets at brick and mortar casinos or bars is going to be as big as it's being propped up to be. Why would I drive out of my way to make a sports bet when I could just download an app like Bovada or betonline and place bets on my phone?

Bovada?

Capitalism my man. What if the casino offered better odds and $9.99 all you can eat crab legs?

The states are looking at this as a whole untapped revenue stream. Some states have a deficit because of the Fed tax cuts. Others like Illinois, dont have a pot to piss in and are trying to find money for pensions. Ohio has powerball and such, so I would say sports betting is money in the bank no pun intended.

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So, What happens to "Office Pool Guy" not paying the damn state nuttin'? :) Will states make Office pool Guy liable for arrest?(not that I know one.. ;))   

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I'll still play my private 8 man fantasy league with a $40 prize for the best score each regular season weekend. It's kind of fun watching the tabulation change online on each player/team as each game is in progress while watching the Browns and recording the Broncos. Now that Rosen to Kirk is in 'Zona I may have to record that one too just to see how soon Rosen is thrown in. Kirk will play right away.

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13 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

First tell me when a casino is coming to be near me. Have to drive up through Ft. Worth I-35 construction traffic to reach Winstar Casino in southern Oklahoma.

Well....no one told you to go live in a backward state.  Of course, casinos didn't hit Ohio in full swing until about 10 years ago.  Now there are 3 of them fairly handy here in NEO.    Both racetracks, Northfield and Thistledown have them, and there is the one downtown Cleveland.

Nevertheless...I actually liked it when the only place you could go to a casino was  either Nevada or Atlantic City..   They had a mystique that no longer exists.  So, perhaps you still get that a bit.

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8 hours ago, jbluhm86 said:

Look how long it took and how many hurdles had to be jumped just to get 4 brick and mortar casinos and a handful of racinos here in Ohio. Call me skeptical, but I don't have much faith in the Ohio state government to actually take advantage of this ruling and do anything worthwhile.

Besides, outside of a few cities built around gambling, I don't think the idea of placing sports bets at brick and mortar casinos or bars is going to be as big as it's being propped up to be. Why would I drive out of my way to make a sports bet when I could just download an app like Bovada or betonline and place bets on my phone?

Because those may not be technically legal?

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5 hours ago, boo fagley said:

Bovada?

Capitalism my man. What if the casino offered better odds and $9.99 all you can eat crab legs?

The states are looking at this as a whole untapped revenue stream. Some states have a deficit because of the Fed tax cuts. Others like Illinois, dont have a pot to piss in and are trying to find money for pensions. Ohio has powerball and such, so I would say sports betting is money in the bank no pun intended.

One of our candidates for Governor advocated the legalization and taxation of Marijuana to increase revenues.

Seven states have legalized it for recreational us:   Washington, Oregon, Calif. Nevada, Colorado, Maine, Massachussetts.

21 other states have some "Medical Marijuana" laws in place, including Ohio.

It appears also that  Vermont, Michigan and New Jersey may move this year on legalization.  (It could also appear on the ballot in Ohio)

I suspect that in 5 years,  over half of the states will have  legal sports betting, and half will have legal  recreational marijuana use.

Then...the next big area will be:   will any states join Nevada in legalizing prostitution?

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Also....after reading up on it:    Prostitution is NOT universally legal in Nevada.  It is only legal in certain counties...and only if it takes place withing a legal brothel.   It is NOT legal in all counties, even in a brothel....including Clark Co.....where Las Vegas is.  Nor is it legal in the county in which Reno or Lake Tahoe are.   But it is legal in the county of the state capital:  Carson City.  But, if in fact, the ho business may not be doing all that well.....in 4 counties where it is eligible to have a legal brothel, none exist.  See the map: 

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6 hours ago, boo fagley said:

Bovada?

Capitalism my man. What if the casino offered better odds and $9.99 all you can eat crab legs?

The states are looking at this as a whole untapped revenue stream. Some states have a deficit because of the Fed tax cuts. Others like Illinois, dont have a pot to piss in and are trying to find money for pensions. Ohio has powerball and such, so I would say sports betting is money in the bank no pun intended.

I've never been an offshore better, there have been a few scandals there plus this Supreme Court ruling will make the whole USA pretty much wide open for potential gaming before long. Over the years I've been a bookie better but most I know/knew are retired in Florida or 6 feet under.

With the federal government about  $20,000,000,000+ in debt state and local funding for virtually everything is getting squeezed bad states will get in or lose out on potential revenues. 

"C'mon BROWNS +7 we need new books for our schools!" :lol:

.........meanwhile I'll be content for now to play our pick 'em and fantasy games here, well plus maybe the lottery. 

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I bet it wont happen .....who will give me odds ?

 

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12 hours ago, hoorta said:

Ghoolie will be moving to a ghost town...  

sports gaming is low on the Vegas list shows slots table games is what built those casinos and will continue to 

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9 minutes ago, syd said:

sports gaming is low on the Vegas list shows slots table games is what built those casinos and will continue to 

Shows ok. But if I want to play slots, it's a 10 minute drive, an hour for table games. I can lose money locally.  Why bother going to Vegas, unless you love the atmosphere ? To paraphrase a Wyoming joke, the prettiest sight in Nevada is seeing Las Vegas in your rear view mirror. (On the way to the Grand Canyon, in my case.)

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4 hours ago, The Gipper said:

One of our candidates for Governor advocated the legalization and taxation of Marijuana to increase revenues.

Seven states have legalized it for recreational us:   Washington, Oregon, Calif. Nevada, Colorado, Maine, Massachussetts.

21 other states have some "Medical Marijuana" laws in place, including Ohio.

It appears also that  Vermont, Michigan and New Jersey may move this year on legalization.  (It could also appear on the ballot in Ohio)

I suspect that in 5 years,  over half of the states will have  legal sports betting, and half will have legal  recreational marijuana use.

Then...the next big area will be:   will any states join Nevada in legalizing prostitution?

Weed is a huge money maker, but the revenue cannot to put in a bank.

Not my thing, so I am against its legalization. I believe that it will lead to more problems.

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8 minutes ago, boo fagley said:

Weed is a huge money maker, but the revenue cannot to put in a bank.

Not my thing, so I am against its legalization. I believe that it will lead to more problems.

Please translate into English that first sentence.  It sounds like you are saying they cannot earn tax revenue from it.  I suspect that is totally wrong. 

As for the second...who gives a flying fadoodle if it is or is not "your thing".  Its not my thing either...but I would advocate its legality. Per your reasoning, we should go back to prohibition on alcohol....because consuming alcohol leads to "problems".   Smoking nicotine, eating sugar, all lead to problems....like every bit or as bad as weed. 

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According to this report, after scrolling through it, it looks like the State of Ohio took in   over 294 million dollars in revenue from the Ohio casinos:

http://casinocontrol.ohio.gov/Portals/0/Communications/2017 OCCC Annual Report - FINAL.pdf

Edit: Note....this does not seem to include the revenues from the Rocksino at Northfield, the JACK Casino at Thistledown....or any of the other "racinos" around the state. 

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4 hours ago, darren15 said:

I bet it wont happen .....who will give me odds ?

 

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I bet it will sooner than later, from Cleveland.com......

......Operators of Ohio's four casinos in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus and Toledo said they would welcome the opportunity to add sports wagering.

The initial response from Gov. John Kasich's office was non-committal.

"Expanding gambling has not been a priority for this administration, and that remains unchanged," the governor's office said in a prepared statement. "We're aware of the ruling and looking to see what impact it will immediately have on Ohio policies."......

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Now Kacich is almost done in Ohio, might run again for president in 2020 who knows. Pennsylvania is already gung ho on sports betting, Ohio will be there too.

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19 minutes ago, mjp28 said:

I bet it will sooner than later, from Cleveland.com......

......Operators of Ohio's four casinos in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus and Toledo said they would welcome the opportunity to add sports wagering.

The initial response from Gov. John Kasich's office was non-committal.

"Expanding gambling has not been a priority for this administration, and that remains unchanged," the governor's office said in a prepared statement. "We're aware of the ruling and looking to see what impact it will immediately have on Ohio policies."......

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Now Kacich is almost done in Ohio, might run again for president in 2020 who knows. Pennsylvania is already gung ho on sports betting, Ohio will be there too.

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

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4 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

A lot of people think Ohio isn't ready or interested in sports gaming but I think it will be more of a gold rush stampede to get their share.

Traditionally (years back) Ohio hasn't been exactly out front on new progressive ideas......we're not Utah but some areas aren't that different than Utah, historically. 

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2 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

I don't gamble.

dude you gamble every day once your feet hit the floor after you wake up you might as well try to win some money along the way

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4 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Please translate into English that first sentence.  It sounds like you are saying they cannot earn tax revenue from it.  I suspect that is totally wrong. 

As for the second...who gives a flying fadoodle if it is or is not "your thing".  Its not my thing either...but I would advocate its legality. Per your reasoning, we should go back to prohibition on alcohol....because consuming alcohol leads to "problems".   Smoking nicotine, eating sugar, all lead to problems....like every bit or as bad as weed. 

My understanding is that the weed money cannot be put into the US banking system because of federal drug laws.

Who gives a rats a$$ that you want it legal. The state of Ohio wont be asking you. Alcohol leads to so many problems, but combined with weed screws people up.

Nobody after eating sugar or smoking a cigarette ever got behind the wheel of a car and killed somebody. You sitting down and devouring a whole chocolate cream pie does not effect me.

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