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30 minutes ago, boo fagley said:

I am a conservative.

What you do with your partner does not effect me. Did you two meet over at the jailhouse?

Whatever else you are....you are a pussy and an arsehole.

I mean...you are a Patriots fan....and there is only one worse insult to call you:  Steeler fan.

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16 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

Never wrong. Clark County uses 60 miles from a 100K city. Thats all there is to it.

FROM CNN, 2016.....

"Brothels not legal in big cities

Nevada law allows counties with a population below 700,000 to offer brothel prostitution.
That means no legal prostitution in Clark County, where Las Vegas is. County law prohibits brothels in Washoe County, home to Reno, and several other counties." (SEE THE LINK IT EXPLAINS NRS 244.345 in detail.)  ;)

The current law says under 700,000 in population, 60 miles is never mentioned.

Nevada is a tiny little state with nothing except Vegas and Henderson in Clark County and Reno in Washoe county......    nevermind this is going nowhere. 

Facts just tend to confuse some people.  :lol:

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1 hour ago, mjp28 said:

FROM CNN, 2016.....

"Brothels not legal in big cities

Nevada law allows counties with a population below 700,000 to offer brothel prostitution.
That means no legal prostitution in Clark County, where Las Vegas is. County law prohibits brothels in Washoe County, home to Reno, and several other counties." (SEE THE LINK IT EXPLAINS NRS 244.345 in detail.)  ;)

The current law says under 700,000 in population, 60 miles is never mentioned.

Nevada is a tiny little state with nothing except Vegas and Henderson in Clark County and Reno in Washoe county......    nevermind this is going nowhere. 

Facts just tend to confuse some people.  :lol:

Violates equal protection and the commerce clause

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On 5/17/2018 at 8:22 AM, The Gipper said:

Weed money can't be put into the US banking system?   Then what do the 7 states where it is legal do with their "weed" money?  They sure as hell don't carry cash around.

Alcohol does and will affect far more people driving a vehicle that weed does/ever will.   And I can tell you....being in the business....there are more  OVI arrests where prescription drugs are involved than where weed is involved.

Naturally you miss the point. https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

Weed combined with alcohol really impairs judgement. Weed driving is illegal. Why legalize and tempt people to do it. Look at alcohol and behavior.

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On 5/18/2018 at 3:06 PM, jrb12711 said:

I just did a tour of the city with what was our 3rd time going there. I noticed this time (april 2017) rates for hotels were WAY higher than before. I asked the guy and he went into a whole story that basically Vegas is moving strongly away from assuming gambling winnings as the main income source. They're already moving into what you're describing of tailoring more to the "luxury" of Vegas as opposed to the gambling. I'm not going to make up numbers, but this has been proven to be true over the past several years where profits from gambling have markedly gone down, while profit from rooms/food/booze have gone up. I have no doubt this decision was in part the reason they did it. 

I believe that profits via gambling are down because of the economy which is now on the rebound. Some states were still suffering a slight recession as early as 2016. I know that in 2008 Vegas really took it hard. I had a friend working on a high rise there and one day they just shut down the job and sent everyone home with the building 50% complete. 

I now dont have to go to Vegas to place a football bet.

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17 hours ago, boo fagley said:

Naturally you miss the point. https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

Weed combined with alcohol really impairs judgement. Weed driving is illegal. Why legalize and tempt people to do it. Look at alcohol and behavior.

No I get the point exactly.I'm well aware of that it. I deal with it all the time. The point is that weed is probably far less of a problem than alcohol or prescription drugs. Prohibition of it is just stuck up foolishness

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2 hours ago, The Gipper said:

No I get the point exactly.I'm well aware of that it. I deal with it all the time. The point is that weed is probably far less of a problem than alcohol or prescription drugs. Prohibition of it is just stuck up foolishness

Probably far less of a problem. Evidently not in Colorado.

Legalization will lead to more people driving after smoking pot. And, as if booze is not bad enough, smoking after drinking.

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8 hours ago, boo fagley said:

Probably far less of a problem. Evidently not in Colorado.

Legalization will lead to more people driving after smoking pot. And, as if booze is not bad enough, smoking after drinking.

yThen we deal with it just likewe do now. Pot  not being fully legal now does not seem to stop anyone from using it and driving. I see it in court all the time. It won't get any worse if it's legalized I don't believe and I am the one with The experience in this area

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8 hours ago, The Gipper said:

yThen we deal with it just likewe do now. Pot  not being fully legal now does not seem to stop anyone from using it and driving. I see it in court all the time. It won't get any worse if it's legalized I don't believe and I am the one with The experience in this area

My link already proves that driving after puffing weed accidents have increased. I dont need to be in the business to understand their findings.

Laws are in place now to discourage weed. Once lifted it it will become more accepted and available for use.

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17 minutes ago, boo fagley said:

My link already proves that driving after puffing weed accidents have increased. I dont need to be in the business to understand their findings.

Laws are in place now to discourage weed. Once lifted it it will become more accepted and available for use.

I don't think that we have seen most of the good and mainly bad effects from the legalization of weed yet and won't have all of the hard numbers for awhile.

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3 hours ago, boo fagley said:

My link already proves that driving after puffing weed accidents have increased. I dont need to be in the business to understand their findings.

Laws are in place now to discourage weed. Once lifted it it will become more accepted and available for use.

And laws are in place to deal with driving while under the influence.....of any and all substances.   Just a sampling from the Ohio Revised Code:

(j) Except as provided in division (K) of this section, the person has a concentration of any of the following controlled substances or metabolites of a controlled substance in the person's whole blood, blood serum or plasma, or urine that equals or exceeds any of the following:

(i) The person has a concentration of amphetamine in the person's urine of at least five hundred nanograms of amphetamine per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of amphetamine in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least one hundred nanograms of amphetamine per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(ii) The person has a concentration of cocaine in the person's urine of at least one hundred fifty nanograms of cocaine per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of cocaine in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least fifty nanograms of cocaine per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(iii) The person has a concentration of cocaine metabolite in the person's urine of at least one hundred fifty nanograms of cocaine metabolite per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of cocaine metabolite in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least fifty nanograms of cocaine metabolite per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(iv) The person has a concentration of heroin in the person's urine of at least two thousand nanograms of heroin per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of heroin in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least fifty nanograms of heroin per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(v) The person has a concentration of heroin metabolite (6-monoacetyl morphine) in the person's urine of at least ten nanograms of heroin metabolite (6-monoacetyl morphine) per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of heroin metabolite (6-monoacetyl morphine) in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least ten nanograms of heroin metabolite (6-monoacetyl morphine) per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(vi) The person has a concentration of L.S.D. in the person's urine of at least twenty-five nanograms of L.S.D. per milliliter of the person's urine or a concentration of L.S.D. in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least ten nanograms of L.S.D. per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(vii) The person has a concentration of marihuana in the person's urine of at least ten nanograms of marihuana per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of marihuana in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least two nanograms of marihuana per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(viii) Either of the following applies:

(I) The person is under the influence of alcohol, a drug of abuse, or a combination of them, and the person has a concentration of marihuana metabolite in the person's urine of at least fifteen nanograms of marihuana metabolite per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of marihuana metabolite in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least five nanograms of marihuana metabolite per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(II) The person has a concentration of marihuana metabolite in the person's urine of at least thirty-five nanograms of marihuana metabolite per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of marihuana metabolite in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least fifty nanograms of marihuana metabolite per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

 

(ix) The person has a concentration of methamphetamine in the person's urine of at least five hundred nanograms of methamphetamine per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of methamphetamine in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least one hundred nanograms of methamphetamine per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(x) The person has a concentration of phencyclidine in the person's urine of at least twenty-five nanograms of phencyclidine per milliliter of the person's urine or has a concentration of phencyclidine in the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma of at least ten nanograms of phencyclidine per milliliter of the person's whole blood or blood serum or plasma.

(xi) The state board of pharmacy has adopted a rule pursuant to section 4729.041 of the Revised Code that specifies the amount of salvia divinorum and the amount of salvinorin A that constitute concentrations of salvia divinorum and salvinorin A in a person's urine, in a person's whole blood, or in a person's blood serum or plasma at or above which the person is impaired for purposes of operating any vehicle, streetcar, or trackless trolley within this state, the rule is in effect, and the person has a concentration of salvia divinorum or salvinorin A of at least that amount so specified by rule in the person's urine, in the person's whole blood, or in the person's blood serum or plasma.

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On 5/19/2018 at 5:51 PM, boo fagley said:

I believe that profits via gambling are down because of the economy which is now on the rebound. Some states were still suffering a slight recession as early as 2016. I know that in 2008 Vegas really took it hard. I had a friend working on a high rise there and one day they just shut down the job and sent everyone home with the building 50% complete. 

I now dont have to go to Vegas to place a football bet.

Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

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1 hour ago, jrb12711 said:

Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

Question.....will losing their monopoly on sports gaming mean that LV will lose a lot of tourism there....seeing as how they  (Nevada) WERE the only place you could go to do that legally?  Or will they go the other route and jack up hotel prices by claiming that their basic....non gambling attractions are enough to warrant tourism on a large scale?  Will they think they have similar to offer to a tourist as does San Fran, Boston, NYC, DC etc...other places where the hotel rates are high?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/214585/most-expensive-cities-in-the-us-ordered-by-hotel-prices-2010/

from this link you see that the highest hotel rates are in:

1. Boston

2. New York City

3. San Fran

4. Wash DC

5. Honolulu

6. Chicago

7. Nashville

8. LA

9. Seattle

10. New Orleans

11. Miami

12. Philly

13. San Jose

14. Scottsdale

15. Denver.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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22 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

Question.....will losing their monopoly on sports gaming mean that LV will lose a lot of tourism there....seeing as how they  (Nevada) WERE the only place you could go to do that legally?  Or will they go the other route and jack up hotel prices by claiming that their basic....non gambling attractions are enough to warrant tourism on a large scale?  Will they think they have similar to offer to a tourist as does San Fran, Boston, NYC, DC etc...other places where the hotel rates are high?

 

I think ultimately Vegas is going to try to appeal to the "luxury" and "entertainment" aspect of the city as opposed to gambling. To be honest, the Michael Jackson show was unbelievably good and not something you're going to be doing in say Cleveland Ohio (or many, many other places). For example, I think instead of offering gambling-based incentives common now I could see offering amenities instead. I know my Dad goes enough where monthly he gets $XX free slot play for example. I easily see that shifting to $XX resort credit or something like BOGO shows, airline credits, etc. 

It'll be interesting though to see how it shakes out. 

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On 5/19/2018 at 3:54 PM, mjp28 said:

FROM CNN, 2016.....

"Brothels not legal in big cities

Nevada law allows counties with a population below 700,000 to offer brothel prostitution.
That means no legal prostitution in Clark County, where Las Vegas is. County law prohibits brothels in Washoe County, home to Reno, and several other counties." (SEE THE LINK IT EXPLAINS NRS 244.345 in detail.)  ;)

The current law says under 700,000 in population, 60 miles is never mentioned.

Nevada is a tiny little state with nothing except Vegas and Henderson in Clark County and Reno in Washoe county......    nevermind this is going nowhere. 

Facts just tend to confuse some people.  :lol:

Actually Nevada is a really big state- with not much in it besides Vegas, Reno, and Henderson. :)  7th in area, and it surprised me that it's bigger than Wyoming. But 33rd (estimate) in population. BTW, 2\3rd of the state's 3 million population are in the Las Vegas vicinity, meaning there's a whole lot of nothing everywhere else in the state. But they do have a lot of open desert open desert where the military blows stuff up, and and nice high level nuclear waste dump.  

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1 hour ago, jrb12711 said:

I think ultimately Vegas is going to try to appeal to the "luxury" and "entertainment" aspect of the city as opposed to gambling. To be honest, the Michael Jackson show was unbelievably good and not something you're going to be doing in say Cleveland Ohio (or many, many other places). For example, I think instead of offering gambling-based incentives common now I could see offering amenities instead. I know my Dad goes enough where monthly he gets $XX free slot play for example. I easily see that shifting to $XX resort credit or something like BOGO shows, airline credits, etc. 

It'll be interesting though to see how it shakes out. 

Well...you won't be seeing any Michael Jackson shows anywhere, seeing how he is dead.   Unless you are saying it is just some tribute show.  You can see any number of concerts you may want right here in Cleveland....but maybe not the specialty thing you are thinking of.  

I can see some major act saying:  I am just going to live and give concerts here in Vegas.  I think Celine Dion did/does that. Some others.  The Beatles got to hating touring...and didn't do it after 1966.  Had they said something on the order of "we are going to give one concert a month....in this small venue (no stadiums)... here in London where you all can come and see us,   I think that would have been great for that band.  But that concept never occurred to them I suspect, so they never toured.    I think that really only started when Elvis began playing Vegas regularly in the 1970s.  

I know that Wayne Newton did the same thing...playing only in Vegas and in Branson.   Only problem with him:   it is THE WORST concert I have ever seen.  My wife and I walked out on it.  It really was that bad.

But I could see some popular acts who have been around a long time wanting to just stay put where they live and play, rather than undergoing the grind of the road.

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45 minutes ago, hoorta said:

Actually Nevada is a really big state- with not much in it besides Vegas, Reno, and Henderson. :)  7th in area, and it surprised me that it's bigger than Wyoming. But 33rd (estimate) in population. BTW, 2\3rd of the state's 3 million population are in the Las Vegas vicinity, meaning there's a whole lot of nothing everywhere else in the state. But they do have a lot of open desert open desert where the military blows stuff up, and and nice high level nuclear waste dump.  

And, I believe, just like this gambling issue.....where a law allowed only 1 state to have it.....the law that disallows the Brothels in Clark County could be challenged constitutionality  on the basis of it being  economically discriminatory. (Commerce Clause and Equal Protection...which applied in the sports gambling matter)  I suppose if the County...or even some private brothel entrepreneur (aka  "pimp")  wanted to challenge it, they could perhaps win.  Of course, then the state could just go back to banning it altogether in the entire state...rather than let them be in Clark Co.   At least then it would not be economic discrimination. 

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2 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Question.....will losing their monopoly on sports gaming mean that LV will lose a lot of tourism there....seeing as how they  (Nevada) WERE the only place you could go to do that legally?  Or will they go the other route and jack up hotel prices by claiming that their basic....non gambling attractions are enough to warrant tourism on a large scale?  Will they think they have similar to offer to a tourist as does San Fran, Boston, NYC, DC etc...other places where the hotel rates are high?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/214585/most-expensive-cities-in-the-us-ordered-by-hotel-prices-2010/

from this link you see that the highest hotel rates are in:

2. New York City

6. Chicago

7. Nashville

12. Philly

Interesting list when you consider the City's where the NFL Draft has gone. Heard the first complaint from a Cowboy fan today, complaining on how the draft lottery went to get in. Only allowing about 20 thousand in per day including media..Sounds like next season the NFL Draft will be in Nashville. A 8 hour drive for me. But if you have never been in Nashville? Hotels are not easy to find at Anytime..Glad that it maybe back to the open streets thou.  EDIT--States need to quit stalling on opening gambling outlets..Todd Haley is planning on hanging 50 on Tomlins arss..Odds were 7.5..Our luck the machines come out with odds under -4 :P..  

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5 hours ago, hoorta said:

Actually Nevada is a really big state- with not much in it besides Vegas, Reno, and Henderson. :)  7th in area, and it surprised me that it's bigger than Wyoming. But 33rd (estimate) in population. BTW, 2\3rd of the state's 3 million population are in the Las Vegas vicinity, meaning there's a whole lot of nothing everywhere else in the state. But they do have a lot of open desert open desert where the military blows stuff up, and and nice high level nuclear waste dump.  

Yes, I was thinking about population and Nevada is pretty much dependant on Los Wages, NV for money and any other state bragging rights, if Vegas slows it would not be a great thing.....at least Vegas isn't too far from California money.

But Vegas has a hockey team and are going to the Stanley Cup, woo-hoo!

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8 hours ago, jrb12711 said:

Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

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3 hours ago, mjp28 said:

Yes, I was thinking about population and Nevada is pretty much dependant on Los Wages, NV for money and any other state bragging rights, if Vegas slows it would not be a great thing.....at least Vegas isn't too far from California money.

But Vegas has a hockey team and are going to the Stanley Cup, woo-hoo!

This is Bull S**t. Let those expansion suckers wait for 20 years or so to make it. 1999 Browns = Super Bowl.  

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11 hours ago, boo fagley said:

If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

Yeah, Mirage is high on my list although Wynn takes the cake in terms of quality.

The best experience I've had by far though was in Lagasse's stadium at the Palazzo. Sounds crazy at first, but we got private recliner seats and the area is stadium style seating with the typical myriad of screens setup. The reserved seats also come with a private (not high roller) area with craps & blackjack, so free booze (and good booze at that). It was during an OSU game and I can safely say I haven't had that was an amazing evening.

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10 hours ago, hoorta said:

This is Bull S**t. Let those expansion suckers wait for 20 years or so to make it. 1999 Browns = Super Bowl.  

  This would have been like the Houston Texans making the Super Bowl in their first year.....absolutely absurd.

Though....the one thing that it may demonstrate is that  QBs and  pitchers are NOT the most important players in sports but rather it is the Hockey Goalie that is.  What is the LVGK's goalie's name?  Fleury or something?  

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