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6 minutes ago, boo fagley said:

My understanding is that the weed money cannot be put into the US banking system because of federal drug laws.

Who gives a rats a$$ that you want it legal. The state of Ohio wont be asking you. Alcohol leads to so many problems, but combined with weed screws people up.

Nobody after eating sugar or smoking a cigarette ever got behind the wheel of a car and killed somebody. You sitting down and devouring a whole chocolate cream pie does not effect me.

so wtf do you think they do with all the cash ? bury it in the back yard ? shove it in a mattress ? Yes those moneys do end up in the bank(credit unions small banks are happy to take that cash) maybe what you were thinking of is that it is a cash only business credit cards cannot be used 

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On 5/15/2018 at 11:44 AM, The Gipper said:

Yesterday the United States Supreme Court struck down a 1992 Federal  law that prevented gambling on sports anywhere but Nevada, which was grandfathered in.  This legal battle had been going on for years, led by New Jersey who had wanted to allow  sports gaming in their casinos for years now, but were prohibited from doing so.

I heard reports that within 5 years, at least 32 states will start allowing gambling on sports.  There are all kinds of questions about how this new status will turn out, how it will be regulated  (either locally with each state, or federally...which the sports leagues would prefer).

I do not know what will happen in Ohio.....but I suspect that before long, you will be able to go to the Rocksino, the JACK casinos downtown and at Thistledown, and wager on most any sporting even you can.

Another factor that the leagues will now argue about it is that  the games are their "intellectual property" and that casinos around the country cannot profit off of their "property" without the leagues getting some cut of the action. 

So, there you go boys and girls, you will not have to just go to Vegas/Reno/Tahoe to wager on NFL games, NBA, MLB etc.  Or college sports.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2018/05/15/the-5-biggest-winners-and-one-loser-in-the-supreme-court-sports-gambling-decision/#65b9131b1af0

 

This won't have any impact on Las Vegas since most of the actual oddsmakers and first chance at inside leaks happens there. The real impact is going to be on the mafioso bastards who still take these bets.in the old days, there would be some politicians getting whacked. 2018? Should still be interesting.

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1 hour ago, syd said:

so wtf do you think they do with all the cash ? bury it in the back yard ? shove it in a mattress ? Yes those moneys do end up in the bank(credit unions small banks are happy to take that cash) maybe what you were thinking of is that it is a cash only business credit cards cannot be used 

No

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2018/01/22/why-marijuana-retailers-cant-use-banks

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16 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Also....after reading up on it:    Prostitution is NOT universally legal in Nevada.  It is only legal in certain counties...and only if it takes place withing a legal brothel.   It is NOT legal in all counties, even in a brothel....including Clark Co.....where Las Vegas is.  Nor is it legal in the county in which Reno or Lake Tahoe are.   But it is legal in the county of the state capital:  Carson City.  But, if in fact, the ho business may not be doing all that well.....in 4 counties where it is eligible to have a legal brothel, none exist.  See the map: 

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it has to be 60 miles from amy city with a population of 100000 people or more.

And for Millennials, clubs. These kids pool 5-10K for bottle service and get treated to free rooms and food.

 

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11 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

This won't have any impact on Las Vegas since most of the actual oddsmakers and first chance at inside leaks happens there. The real impact is going to be on the mafioso bastards who still take these bets.in the old days, there would be some politicians getting whacked. 2018? Should still be interesting.

Actually its a win for the public.

Vegas will offer more perks to entice the public to visit. 

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12 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

This won't have any impact on Las Vegas since most of the actual oddsmakers and first chance at inside leaks happens there. The real impact is going to be on the mafioso bastards who still take these bets.in the old days, there would be some politicians getting whacked. 2018? Should still be interesting.

When you will have 100% sports gaming throughout the United States coupled with table games at casinos and racetracks?  It will impact on Vegas which has been shifting over to a convention destination anyway.

And the old mob always went where the money was, bootlegging,  horseracing, "the bug", sports betting, drugs, whatever. The federal and state governments  are getting into as much legal taxable gambling as they can the result will be big time watered down gambling almost everywhere you go now.

And what politicans got "whacked" by the mob, really now they used to fight each other but kill civilians......very rare if at all. I remember a lot of connected guys way back, they ran clubs and put on festivals and parades. :lol:

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13 hours ago, boo fagley said:

My understanding is that the weed money cannot be put into the US banking system because of federal drug laws.

Who gives a rats a$$ that you want it legal. The state of Ohio wont be asking you. Alcohol leads to so many problems, but combined with weed screws people up.

Nobody after eating sugar or smoking a cigarette ever got behind the wheel of a car and killed somebody. You sitting down and devouring a whole chocolate cream pie does not effect me.

Weed money can't be put into the US banking system?   Then what do the 7 states where it is legal do with their "weed" money?  They sure as hell don't carry cash around.

Alcohol does and will affect far more people driving a vehicle that weed does/ever will.   And I can tell you....being in the business....there are more  OVI arrests where prescription drugs are involved than where weed is involved.

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11 hours ago, boo fagley said:

Even if this is the case....it WILL soon change.   States are not going to sit around and not let there taxes be collected because it has to be paid in cash. There are 7 states now.  I showed above where likely  3 more states will legalize it this year.    So the philistinian approach to this issue will not abide much longer.

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8 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

Weed money can't be put into the US banking system?   Then what do the 7 states where it is legal do with their "weed" money?  They sure as hell don't carry cash around.

Alcohol does and will affect far more people driving a vehicle that weed does/ever will.   And I can tell you....being in the business....there are more  OVI arrests where prescription drugs are involved than where weed is involved.

From Brookings.....

https://www.brookings.edu/research/banking-regulations-create-mess-for-marijuana-industry-banks-and-law-enforcement/

........ As background, the federal government has been very clear about bank requirements. Banks are allowed to work with marijuana businesses, as long as they file reports and comply with a heavy set of regulations. Treasury Department guidance states that banks are still required to file suspicious activity reports even in states where marijuana-related activity has been legalized.  Nationally, more than 360 banks and credit unions work with marijuana-related businesses, filing more than 2,000 suspicious activity reports a month — a figure that’s doubled in the past year......

Initially it was a big problem and stores did not know what to do with all the cash!

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7 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

it has to be 60 miles from amy city with a population of 100000 people or more.

And for Millennials, clubs. These kids pool 5-10K for bottle service and get treated to free rooms and food.

 

Just out of curiosity....what is the reasoning for that 60 mile rule.   I mean....they don't mind this so called immorality as long as it takes place in the country?  Is that why so many of those brothels have gone under?   I mean....if in fact there is no objection to this enterprise....why not put it where it can be most profitable.  Put it in Vegas where it can produce the most tax revenue.  Maybe put it in a special  (red light?)  district.....but why just limit it to "the country"....where they seem to fail financially.

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33 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

Just out of curiosity....what is the reasoning for that 60 mile rule.   I mean....they don't mind this so called immorality as long as it takes place in the country?  Is that why so many of those brothels have gone under?   I mean....if in fact there is no objection to this enterprise....why not put it where it can be most profitable.  Put it in Vegas where it can produce the most tax revenue.  Maybe put it in a special  (red light?)  district.....but why just limit it to "the country"....where they seem to fail financially.

Not exactly true.....

Under Nevada state law, any county with a population under 700,000, as of the last decennial census,[21] is allowed to license brothels if it so chooses.[8] Incorporated towns and cities in counties that allow prostitution may regulate the trade further or prohibit it altogether.

Currently seven out of Nevada's 16 counties have active brothels (these are all rural counties). As of February 2018 there are 21 legal brothels.....

It's up to the individual municipalities. 

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Another oops on that 60 mile thing, Reno, NV, two brothels within 40 miles:

Reno is the most populous Nevada city outside the Las Vegas Valley, with an estimated population of 241,445 in 2015.[3] Reno is part of the Reno–Sparks metropolitan area, which consists of all of both Washoe and Storey counties and has a 2016 estimated population of 457,420.[4]

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43 minutes ago, mjp28 said:

Not exactly true.....

Under Nevada state law, any county with a population under 700,000, as of the last decennial census,[21] is allowed to license brothels if it so chooses.[8] Incorporated towns and cities in counties that allow prostitution may regulate the trade further or prohibit it altogether.

Currently seven out of Nevada's 16 counties have active brothels (these are all rural counties). As of February 2018 there are 21 legal brothels.....

It's up to the individual municipalities. 

 

No....apparently not.   Your own quote says that any county under  700K is allow to license it.   Well...that obviously leaves out one particular county:

County Total Population
Clark Clark County total population - 19976591,997,659  
Washoe Washoe County total population - 429079429,079
Carson City Carson City County total population - 5461654,616
Lyon Lyon County total population - 5126451,264
Elko Elko County total population - 5095450,954
Douglas Douglas County total population - 4701647,016
Nye Nye County total population - 4291442,914
Churchill Churchill County total population - 2434124,341
Humboldt Humboldt County total population - 1707417,074
White Pine White Pine County total population - 1000710,007
Pershing Pershing County total population - 67676,767
Lander Lander County total population - 59075,907
Lincoln Lincoln County total population - 53575,357
Mineral Mineral County total population - 46944,694
Storey Storey County total population - 39393,939
Eureka Eureka County total population - 20032,003
Esmeralda Esmeralda County total population - 763763

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28 minutes ago, mjp28 said:

Another oops on that 60 mile thing, Reno, NV, two brothels within 40 miles:

Reno is the most populous Nevada city outside the Las Vegas Valley, with an estimated population of 241,445 in 2015.[3] Reno is part of the Reno–Sparks metropolitan area, which consists of all of both Washoe and Storey counties and has a 2016 estimated population of 457,420.[4]

There are some outside of Carson City.  I guess that they may be within 40 miles of Reno.

But, that begs the question:    Why did the state law prohibit it in Clark Co.  (that could violate the Equal Protection and the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution).....and why would Reno not allow it in town....if they are eligible to have then there?   (one simple explanation is that the people there don't want them...OK...and since they can prohibit them, they do)

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8 hours ago, The Gipper said:

No....apparently not.   Your own quote says that any county under  700K is allow to license it........

I think it is set up specifically  to keep brothels out of Vegas, the nearest one is 65 miles away......limo service available.  ;)

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14 hours ago, mjp28 said:

I think it is set up specifically  to keep brothels out of Vegas, the nearest one is 65 miles away......limo service available.  ;)

What I wonder is this:   Are there places in Nevada that are One Stop Shops to fulfill all of your vices:    Where you can drink, gamble..including on sports, buy and consume marijuana and fornicate all in the same operation?  (all legal in Nevada) 

I only ask out of curiosity...and for potential investment purposes.   Right now I only drink moderately (I really do not like the feeling of getting wasted),  I never smoke anything and have no desire to.  I only flutter a bit at the casinos.  (on the one or 3 days a year I do go I put myself on like a strict 25-50 dollar budget)....and with my health conditions fornication is not a functioning part of my regimen.  

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On 5/17/2018 at 9:30 AM, mjp28 said:

Another oops on that 60 mile thing, Reno, NV, two brothels within 40 miles:

Reno is the most populous Nevada city outside the Las Vegas Valley, with an estimated population of 241,445 in 2015.[3] Reno is part of the Reno–Sparks metropolitan area, which consists of all of both Washoe and Storey counties and has a 2016 estimated population of 457,420.[4]

Actually, no ooops on my part. We were talking about Vegas, and hence I was referring to Clark County. In Clark County, they use the 60 mile rule, somewhere in there is the 100,000 population dictate because of new, growing towns (Henderson) that would have not been previously covered.  What they do in Reno, I couldn't give a fauhk. Reno is full of liberal homos. (And judges, lol)

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19 minutes ago, Ghoolie said:

Actually, no ooops on my part. We were talking about Vegas, and hence I was referring to Clark County. In Clark County, they use the 60 mile rule, somewhere in there is the 100,000 population dictate because of new, growing towns (Henderson) that would have not been previously covered.  What they do in Reno, I couldn't give a fauhk. Reno is full of liberal homos. (And judges, lol)

Nevada is full of liberals, and homos. I mean....what attitude do you think led to the legalization of  gambling, prostitution, marijuana. 

If you want to hang with so called conservatives, then move to like Freaking St. George Utah, not Vegas.

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On 5/17/2018 at 7:44 AM, boo fagley said:

Actually its a win for the public.

Vegas will offer more perks to entice the public to visit. 

I just did a tour of the city with what was our 3rd time going there. I noticed this time (april 2017) rates for hotels were WAY higher than before. I asked the guy and he went into a whole story that basically Vegas is moving strongly away from assuming gambling winnings as the main income source. They're already moving into what you're describing of tailoring more to the "luxury" of Vegas as opposed to the gambling. I'm not going to make up numbers, but this has been proven to be true over the past several years where profits from gambling have markedly gone down, while profit from rooms/food/booze have gone up. I have no doubt this decision was in part the reason they did it. 

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42 minutes ago, jrb12711 said:

I just did a tour of the city with what was our 3rd time going there. I noticed this time (april 2017) rates for hotels were WAY higher than before. I asked the guy and he went into a whole story that basically Vegas is moving strongly away from assuming gambling winnings as the main income source. They're already moving into what you're describing of tailoring more to the "luxury" of Vegas as opposed to the gambling. I'm not going to make up numbers, but this has been proven to be true over the past several years where profits from gambling have markedly gone down, while profit from rooms/food/booze have gone up. I have no doubt this decision was in part the reason they did it. 

I own a timeshare, (in Las Vegas)  and as part of my timeshare exchange program they also allow you to buy "Getaways"...these are just non traded weeks available for purchase.  And the prices for these weeks to purchase have gone up a lot.    What I think is happening is there there is a concerted, collusive effort by the Vegas  hotel etc. groups to raise the prices there, at least of their higher end properties. 

I am actually contemplating flying into Vegas.. in October.....but only staying out there one night coming and one night leaving.  You used to be able to get a decent hotel for that purpose for as low as 35-40 per night.  Now they cost as much as a low cost hotel anywhere else, in other words....65-70 per night and Up.

Even Motel 6 and  Howard Johnson's want like 90=95 per night.

The well known places on The Strip are wanting like over $200+ per night.

My timeshare is right on the strip there.  Even they want like $165 a night....from the general public.   I don't know if I could get a discount because I am an owner for a one night stay.      I could check.   On the other hand, I have a good friend of mine from high school who now lives in Vegas, so, if I stay there, my cost per night would be  -0-....or at minimum whatever gift I would get this person for allowing me to stay.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

Actually, no ooops on my part. We were talking about Vegas, and hence I was referring to Clark County. In Clark County, they use the 60 mile rule, somewhere in there is the 100,000 population dictate because of new, growing towns (Henderson) that would have not been previously covered.  What they do in Reno, I couldn't give a fauhk. Reno is full of liberal homos. (And judges, lol)

Wrong again, Henderson is in Clark County (which is well over 700,000 now)  and has a population of 300,000+ by itself.  No other city/county is close to the 700,000+ club. Whats with 60 mile, 100,000 population? 

Oh my old plant engineer had a brother who lived in Henderson over 30 years ago, it has grown since then. 

Nevada total population by county
 
County Total Population
Clark Clark County total population - 19976591,997,659 includes Vegas and Henderson   
Washoe Washoe County total population - 429079429,079 Reno area
Carson City Carson City County total population - 5461654,616
Lyon Lyon County total population - 5126451,264
Elko Elko County total population - 5095450,954 and that's the top 5 as of 2012 the rest are very small

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, mjp28 said:

 

Nevada total population by county
 
County Total Population
Clark Clark County total population - 19976591,997,659 includes Vegas and Henderson   
Washoe Washoe County total population - 429079429,079 Reno area
Carson City Carson City County total population - 5461654,616
Lyon Lyon County total population - 5126451,264
Elko Elko County total population - 5095450,954 and that's the top 5 as of 2012 the rest are very small

 

 

 

Alex pronounce Washoe for $500? 1) Wa'shoe? 2)Was'hoe? 3)Wash'oe? 

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5 hours ago, mjp28 said:

Wrong again, Henderson is in Clark County (which is well over 700,000 now)  and has a population of 300,000+ by itself.  No other city/county is close to the 700,000+ club. Whats with 60 mile, 100,000 population? 

Oh my old plant engineer had a brother who lived in Henderson over 30 years ago, it has grown since then. 

Nevada total population by county
 
County Total Population
Clark Clark County total population - 19976591,997,659 includes Vegas and Henderson   
Washoe Washoe County total population - 429079429,079 Reno area
Carson City Carson City County total population - 5461654,616
Lyon Lyon County total population - 5126451,264
Elko Elko County total population - 5095450,954 and that's the top 5 as of 2012 the rest are very small

 

 

 

Never wrong. Clark County uses 60 miles from a 100K city. Thats all there is to it.

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2 hours ago, boo fagley said:

Whats the difference?

You are a Homo I am a liberal nothing else need be said

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8 hours ago, The Gipper said:

You are a Homo I am a liberal nothing else need be said

So an independent conservative like me must be bi-polar-:rolleyes:-itical?

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This thread is every bit as stupid as the Sumo thread.

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10 hours ago, The Gipper said:

You are a Homo I am a liberal nothing else need be said

Im not the one inquiring about male prostitution in Nevada.

You dont have a timeshare there because of the all you can eat buffets.

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11 hours ago, The Gipper said:

You are a Homo I am a liberal nothing else need be said

I am a conservative.

What you do with your partner does not effect me. Did you two meet over at the jailhouse?

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2 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

This thread is every bit as stupid as the Sumo thread.

It is supposed to be about sports betting.  You are the one that turned it into something else.  

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