Draftday Re-Do, By You

[gumby73]

Numerous times we hear "We should have Drafted that Guy" ABOUT WEEK 2!!.. Football junkies call it now. So.. we had Two 1st(1/4). Two Seconds(33/35).One 3rd,4th,5th(67,105,150).Two 6th(175,188). Here's a site where players got chosen..  https://www.sbnation.com/2018/4/28/17294748/2018-nfl-draft-order-rounds-4-7  no cheats..only take your player chosen BEFORE Player Was Off The Board as Clevelands GM.(huge advange).Feel free to edit till Camp starts.Your picks must be locked in by Browns full member Training Camp..Good Luck, to All Gm's! 

[Zombo]

Good idea, I'm not going to do it though, because once these guys become Browns I support them too much.

Mayfield was gaining fast on Darnold for me, and now that we picked him ... it seems perfect. I like him better as the face of the franchise and I'm starting to think he'll do better on the field as well.

Good luck to Barkley, but I basically don't care what he does now when he's not playing us. Fuck New York ... they got our sloppy seconds.

Zombo

[TexasAg1969]

46 minutes ago, Zombo said:

Good idea, I'm not going to do it though, because once these guys become Browns I support them too much.

Mayfield was gaining fast on Darnold for me, and now that we picked him ... it seems perfect. I like him better as the face of the franchise and I'm starting to think he'll do better on the field as well.

Good luck to Barkley, but I basically don't care what he does now when he's not playing us. Shmuck New York ... they got our sloppy seconds.

Zombo

And now that it is obvious that the Browns organization sees Ogbah back to his pre-injury level, I'm fine with Ward at CB instead of Chubb on the other end from Garrett. It will be fun to watch this team with all their injured defensive starters out there at 100% at the same time. And Brantley is quickly turning into a steal in my book.

[Zombo]

16 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

And now that it is obvious that the Browns organization sees Ogbah back to his pre-injury level, I'm fine with Ward at CB instead of Chubb on the other end from Garrett. It will be fun to watch this team with all their injured defensive starters out there at 100% at the same time. And Brantley is quickly turning into a steal in my book.

Yeah, seems they are happy with the young guys on the DL, only added a complimentary pass rusher. I know our DTs graded out well last year and they didn't even try to replace Shelton other than with that promising UDFA.

Zombo

[TexasAg1969]

1 minute ago, Zombo said:

Yeah, seems they are happy with the young guys on the DL, only added a complimentary pass rusher. I know our DTs graded out well last year and they didn't even try to replace Shelton other than with that promising UDFA.

Zombo

And next year's draft is loaded with D linemen far better than this weak class in that area. Same for OTs as well.

[The Gipper]

3 hours ago, gumby73 said:

Numerous times we hear "We should have Drafted that Guy" ABOUT WEEK 2!!.. Football junkies call it now. So.. we had Two 1st(1/4). Two Seconds(33/35).One 3rd,4th,5th(67,105,150).Two 6th(175,188). Here's a site where players got chosen..  https://www.sbnation.com/2018/4/28/17294748/2018-nfl-draft-order-rounds-4-7  no cheats..only take your player chosen BEFORE Player Was Off The Board as Clevelands GM.(huge advange).Feel free to edit till Camp starts.Your picks must be locked in by Browns full member Training Camp..Good Luck, to All Gm's! 

The only way this is a good idea is if we go back to the years between 2013 and 2015...and "Re-do" those drafts

[The Gipper]

1 hour ago, Zombo said:

Yeah, seems they are happy with the young guys on the DL, only added a complimentary pass rusher. I know our DTs graded out well last year and they didn't even try to replace Shelton other than with that promising UDFA.

Zombo

Remember that they also acquired ....I think his name is Chris Smith...as FA....to add depth to the DL.   He too is a DE.

I think then they are apparently very satisfied with the likes of Coley, Brantly, Ogunjobi, and Meder at DT.

The only area I am still iffy about is OLB.    Chad Thomas is listed as a DE.   Genard as an ILB.  I thought we needed help there that we did not get....unless either of those guys make the transition to OLB.

[hoorta]

24 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

The only way this is a good idea is if we go back to the years between 2013 and 2015...and "Re-do" those drafts

It would be too easy, nausea inducing, and would certainly have affected the '16- '18 drafts. Getting those right would mean no top 10 picks in those years. Just '13 and '14 we passed on Le'veon Bell, Kahlil Mack, and Odell Beckham for starters.

[The Gipper]

34 minutes ago, hoorta said:

It would be too easy, nausea inducing, and would certainly have affected the '16- '18 drafts. Getting those right would mean no top 10 picks in those years. Just '13 and '14 we passed on Le'veon Bell, Kahlil Mack, and Odell Beckham for starters.

Oi!

[Tour2ma]

Gip just means it wasn't his idea...

[Tour2ma]

Going to be interesting to see what develops redrafting in the absence of trades which was my biggest disappointment. However, the reported interest in our earliest picks was surprisingly low.

• Note 1: Very quickly I am learning that the way the draft fell it is not easy to just slide in players I liked better... at least not early.
• Note 2: Included actual draft slots for changes I made to track length of "reach" the way the draft fell.

Tour's Redraft...

1.01 Mayfield Rosen (QB, 1.10) - gotta stay with my guy

1.04 Ward (CB, 1.04) - no reason to change, but if Mayfield was still there, and the odds of him being there are good,  then calls from AZ and NE among others would have been taken.

2.01 Corbett (OL) Josh Jackson (CB, 2.13) doubling up on CBs early might not seem prudent, but in a very good CB class like this one, I go this way.

2.03 N. Chubb (RB) DJ Chark (WR, 2.29) - my WR

3.03 C. Thomas (DL) Justin Reid (FS, 3.04) - our new FS from GB might be the guy, but why risk all on him with this bargain starring you in the face.

4.05 Callaway (WR) Mo Hurst (DT, 5.03) - last chance to land my improvement over Chad Thomas and since I don't need a WR here anymore...

5.13 Avery (ILB) - I'm good here...

6.01 Ratley Dylan Cantrell (WR, 6.17) -  I like my WR better than Ratley... and Callaway.

6.14 Thomas Justin Jackson (RB, 7.33) - longest reach of my substitution draft, but it is what it is.

 

I think the only area where I did not make a pick that our FO did, was the OL. Combo of being fine with Shon Coleman and liking our UDFA p/u, Harrison, and the stronger 2019 OT class kept me from reaching one of my guys.

 

Interesting exercise and much tougher than I thought going in...

[The Gipper]

1 hour ago, Tour2ma said:

Gip just means it wasn't his idea...

How many times have I said that doing grading is worthless.  Unless it is 3-5 years down the road. 

And certainly doing a "Re-do" of this past draft was not my idea.

The fact that it is such a bad idea could have told you that.

Maybe doing a "Re-do" of those 3-5 year old drafts would be a better exercise.

[The Gipper]

22 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Going to be interesting to see what develops redrafting in the absence of trades which was my biggest disappointment. However, the reported interest in our earliest picks was surprisingly low.

• Note 1: Very quickly I am learning that the way the draft fell it is not easy to just slide in players I liked better... at least not early.
• Note 2: Included actual draft slots for changes I made to track length of "reach" the way the draft fell.

Tour's Redraft...

1.01 Mayfield Rosen (QB, 1.10) - gotta stay with my guy

1.04 Ward (CB, 1.04) - no reason to change, but if Mayfield was still there, and the odds of him being there are good,  then calls from AZ and NE among others would have been taken.

2.01 Corbett (OL) Josh Jackson (CB, 2.13) doubling up on CBs early might not seem prudent, but in a very good CB class like this one, I go this way.

2.03 N. Chubb (RB) DJ Chark (WR, 2.29) - my WR

3.03 C. Thomas (DL) Justin Reid (FS, 3.04) - our new FS from GB might be the guy, but why risk all on him with this bargain starring you in the face.

4.05 Callaway (WR) Mo Hurst (DT, 5.03) - last chance to land my improvement over Chad Thomas and since I don't need a WR here anymore...

5.13 Avery (ILB) - I'm good here...

6.01 Ratley Dylan Cantrell (WR, 6.17) -  I like my WR better than Ratley... and Callaway.

6.14 Thomas Justin Jackson (RB, 7.33) - longest reach of my substitution draft, but it is what it is.

 

I think the only area where I did not make a pick that our FO did, was the OL. Combo of being fine with Shon Coleman and liking our UDFA p/u, Harrison, and the stronger 2019 OT class kept me from reaching one of my guys.

 

Interesting exercise and much tougher than I thought going in...

Keep this thread for 4 years from now...and see then how it turns out.  

[Louisville Slugger]

Are we allowed to use trades or just the picks that we made?

[Dutch Oven]

1 minute ago, Louisville Slugger said:

Are we allowed to use trades or just the picks that we made?

I think just stick with the picks they originally had. 

[gumby73]

1 hour ago, Louisville Slugger said:

Are we allowed to use trades or just the picks that we made?

Trades were already in place.No more trading.Just the picks that we made all 6 rounds at Browns pick..now If you see a player traded FOR after our pick? he's browns grabable   

[Zombo]

9 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Remember that they also acquired ....I think his name is Chris Smith...as FA....to add depth to the DL.   He too is a DE.

I think then they are apparently very satisfied with the likes of Coley, Brantly, Ogunjobi, and Meder at DT.

The only area I am still iffy about is OLB.    Chad Thomas is listed as a DE.   Genard as an ILB.  I thought we needed help there that we did not get....unless either of those guys make the transition to OLB.

Dorsey said on the radio today that he had outside lb measurables, yet played well inside, so he saw him getting long looks in both spots.

Z

[gumby73]

5 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

 

GUMBY's  Redraft...

1.01 Mayfield MAYFIELD (QB, 1.10) -  BACK TO my guy

1.04 Ward (CB, 1.04) - no reason to change check..

2.01 Corbett (OL) Josh Jackson (CB, 2.13) check or Harold Landry/Christian Kirk

2.03 N. Chubb (RB) N,CHUBB  back to my guy

3.03 C. Thomas (DL) Justin Reid (FS, 3.04) or Sam Hubbard

4.05 Callaway (WR) Mo Hurst (DT, 5.03) Mo check..guys a steal

5.13 Avery (ILB) - I'm good here...also..but 2 tackles options Jamarco Jones/Tyrell Crosby? (still leaning keep pick again)  

6.01 Ratley Deon Cain/Equanimeous St.Brown

6.14 Thomas My local guy this draft was WR Braxton Berrios, Drafted by the evil empire Pats. with J.Landry in place? may never happen..  am still working on 6th rounders 

Much respect to those holding all those original Browns picks. I tried this exercise last night & honestly I could not change much..Was hoping some of pouting members would post theirs but we shall see..Gip, we all know about the 3-4 year rule on rookies..but does it ever apply to a fan forum board in year 1 if not year 2? of 9 picks i may only move 2 6th & a 4th..Job well done Dorsey & crew   

[Louisville Slugger]

1. L. Jackson- QB

4. D. Ward- CB

32. N. Chubb- RB

34. A. Miller- WR

67. M. Cole- C

105. A. Watts- S

150. T. Crosby - T

175. E. St. Brown - WR

188. T. Young -DE

[Orion]

Nice idea Gumby.  But pretty much I want them to draft the guys that they really want to take.  -  I wanted Rosen or Darnold.  But they really wanted Mayfield, so that's who I want them to have.  I mean, we needed a QB real bad...and it's not like Mayfield was a bum...or was a punter or something.  They took a QB.  The one they liked best.

At the top of round two I was hoping for Connor Williams...but hey, they took a guy somewhat like him.

Round 4 they took an a-hole WR.  And they traded up to get him.  Rubs a lot of people the wrong way.  But he's potentially a really good football player....and we could certainly use a really good WR.  So now we have 2 a-hole WR's.  We'll see how that works out but I can't fault him for rolling the dice there.  I'll only fault him if the guy continues to be an a-hole and they don't cut him because they drafted him.

Go Browns!

 

[JimboJones]

1 (1) QB Sam Darnold

1 (4) DE Bradley Chubb

2 (33) CB Josh Jackson

2 (35) RB Darrius Guice

3 (3) FS Justin Reid

4 (114) DT Maurice Hurst

5 (150) DT Tim Settle

6 (175) CB Parry Nickerson

6 (178) CB Holton Hill

6 (188) WR Equanimeous St. Brown

[gumby73]

2 hours ago, Orion said:

Round 4 they took an a-hole WR.  And they traded up to get him.  Rubs a lot of people the wrong way.  But he's potentially a really good football player....and we could certainly use a really good WR.  So now we have 2 a-hole WR's.  We'll see how that works out but I can't fault him for rolling the dice there.  I'll only fault him if the guy continues to be an a-hole and they don't cut him because they drafted him.

Go Browns!

 

All I can say is "They Better be Right On Kizer" We sat at #101 in 4th before trade. The risk on Callaway would cost far less without trading back up from #114 back up to #105> to get Callaway if he fails.We'd take him at #101.What could be worse? is the players we missed on in the 5th giving up #138 waiting till #150 to pick G. Avery..The list includes Mo Hurst & Shaq Griffin.. 

[JimboJones]

Damn, my draft looks a lot like Tour2ma's and Gumby's.  Hmmm maybe I'll change it up a bit later to be a bit different.

[Tour2ma]

6 hours ago, JimboJones said:

Damn, my draft looks a lot like Tour2ma's and Gumby's.  Hmmm maybe I'll change it up a bit later to be a bit different.

lol... I understand (and share) your reservations about the comapny, but the way the draft fell there should be a far amount of commonality at a few picks, e.g., J.Jackson, Reid and Hurst.

[JimboJones]

On 5/2/2018 at 9:43 AM, Tour2ma said:

lol... I understand (and share) your reservations about the comapny, but the way the draft fell there should be a far amount of commonality at a few picks, e.g., J.Jackson, Reid and Hurst.

Just noticed, If you're not moving up in round 4 to pick Callaway, you should have an extra 6th round pick (#178 overall).

You still have one more pick to make!

[Tour2ma]

13 minutes ago, JimboJones said:

Just noticed, If you're not moving up in round 4 to pick Callaway, you should have an extra 6th round pick (#178 overall).

You still have one more pick to make!

Cool... chalk up another sleeper in the Browns' column...

6.xx - Ade Aruna (DE) Tulane

[gumby73]

On 5/1/2018 at 7:33 AM, gumby73 said:

 we had Two 1st(1/4). Two Seconds(33/35).One 3rd,4th,5th(67,105,150).Two 6th(175,188). Here's a site where players got chosen..  https://www.sbnation.com/2018/4/28/17294748/2018-nfl-draft-order-rounds-4-7  no cheats..only take your player chosen BEFORE Player Was Off The Board as Clevelands GM.(huge advange).Feel free to edit till Camp starts. 

 

On 5/1/2018 at 7:38 PM, gumby73 said:

Trades were already in place.No more trading.Just the picks that we made all 6 rounds at Browns pick.  

 

21 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Cool... chalk up another sleeper in the Browns' column...

6.xx - Ade Aruna (DE) Tulane

sorry,them's the rules..Dorsey traded yours & Jimbo's pick #178..your only pick options are at #1,4,33,35,67,105,150,175,188..Jimbo you have no #114 or #178 pick..Editable & Others have till full Camp in June to enter their choices..have not forgot, but I myself have some work to do also  

[Tacosman]

On 5/1/2018 at 6:33 AM, gumby73 said:

Numerous times we hear "We should have Drafted that Guy" ABOUT WEEK 2!!.. Football junkies call it now. So.. we had Two 1st(1/4). Two Seconds(33/35).One 3rd,4th,5th(67,105,150).Two 6th(175,188). Here's a site where players got chosen..  https://www.sbnation.com/2018/4/28/17294748/2018-nfl-draft-order-rounds-4-7  no cheats..only take your player chosen BEFORE Player Was Off The Board as Clevelands GM.(huge advange).Feel free to edit till Camp starts.Your picks must be locked in by Browns full member Training Camp..Good Luck, to All Gm's! 

Rosen or Darnold at 1....

try to slide down a few picks and still take Ward next....and if he were gone after we slid down just take minkah instead

guice instead of Chubb...

no calloway.....

[JimboJones]

18 hours ago, gumby73 said:

 

 

sorry,them's the rules..Dorsey traded yours & Jimbo's pick #178..your only pick options are at #1,4,33,35,67,105,150,175,188..Jimbo you have no #114 or #178 pick..Editable & Others have till full Camp in June to enter their choices..have not forgot, but I myself have some work to do also  

I love your thread idea, but if we didn't move up in the 4th to pick Calloway, we'd still have an extra 6th!

But I understand, your thread your rules.

[gumby73]

2 hours ago, JimboJones said:

I love your thread idea, but if we didn't move up in the 4th to pick Calloway, we'd still have an extra 6th!

But I understand, your thread your rules.

But Dorsey did, without your (if) approval.. I get your thought but GM's trade picks.Just trying to keep it real with the pick #'s we had. Avoids the 2014 Browns Draft. If we never trade #4(Sammy Watkins/Khalil Mack) down to #9 to Vikings we never move up to #8 for Justin Gilbert? or if we sit at pick #26 Eagles pick we never go up to #22 for Johnny Manziel? Here's to hoping Calloway left his baggage & a the extra pick somewhere in Florida..