Westside Steve Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000929730/article/2018-nfl-draft-quicksnap-grades-for-every-team-through-day-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 17 hours ago, Harry Buffalo said: Lets be honest, who gives a Sheet about what these pundits think of our draft. They have given us B to A grades the past 5 years, then those draft classes have proceeded to put us in a position to go 0-16. I guess they're all grading on massive curve, nobody really gets an F no matter how bad they do......kind of like participation trophies in little league. .......oh edit add, just checking out the above NFL.news day 1 & 2 grades in the AFCN the lowest grade was B+. Now we all get to go to the Dairy Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 8:26 AM, darren15 said: The majority of these people handing out grades are not employed by an NFL team for a reason ....they suck .... let them play 3 years then grade them .... That's no fun. Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the players selected will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong. We fans are not employed by NFL teams either, but a letter grade could easily be attached to our opinion of how our beloved team did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, StinkHole said: That's no fun. Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the player will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong. We fans are not employed by NFL teams either, but a letter grade could easily be attached to our opinion of how our beloved team did. Just stop it with awesome posts like this........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Always been a fan of The Godfather Gil Brandt..Most scouts/gm's have a need to know? Gil's there Man. He finds grades being silly at this point..What I don't find silly is his top 150..Here's where we sit with his players ranked...Mayfield Gil ranked #4//////D.Ward #9//////N.Chubb #34////A.Corbett #62////C.Thomas #144...More than 3/4 of Gil's board is gone..Lots of good WR's are the majority left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 22 hours ago, The Gipper said: Grading any draft at this point is merely an exercise in ignorance. No, not really. Grading is just for fun...see my "awesome " post above. Btw...looking forward to your thread analyzing the drafts of the AFCN...know your enemies! I was ecstatic about getting Mason Rudolph!!! I'd be willing to bet that both Rudolph and the Ravens Lamar Jackson end up far superior QB's over Mayfield. I would not be saying this if the Browns had selected Darnold or even Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, StinkHole said: No, not really. Grading is just for fun...see my "awesome " post above. Btw...looking forward to your thread analyzing the drafts of the AFCN...know your enemies! I was ecstatic about getting Mason Rudolph!!! I'd be willing to bet that both Rudolph and the Ravens Lamar Jackson end up far superior QB's over Mayfield. I would not be saying this if the Browns had selected Darnold or even Rosen. Yes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong ha ha ha haYes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Voice activation heard me say my boot off when I actually said Rudolph. Nevertheless my boot off might be a good nickname for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 hours ago, StinkHole said: That's no fun. Assigning grades is a game in itself. Grading drafts is merely an opinion based on how much the analyst believes the players selected will contribute to the team ...THEN after 3 years we can determine if the analyst was right or wrong. As long as we don't turn that discernment on ourselves... count me in! 6 hours ago, The Gipper said: Yes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong ha ha ha haYes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. As for me boot off and Jackson being better than Mayfield God only knows so therefore since I am God I know that you will be wrong Yup... drunk posting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Draft ratings at this point are about as useful as a penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 7 hours ago, The Gipper said: Yes I know it is just for fun but that doesn't make it any less of a completely useless gesture. Sure, as much a useless gesture as this sports talk message board is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissyBoyFloyd Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 drafts are always disappointing to me. Whatever team I call mine never drafts the guys I want or mock to them. The only redemption is I get to usually say I told everyone so when they bust, but actually that is no fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, SissyBoyFloyd said: drafts are always disappointing to me. Whatever team I call mine never drafts the guys I want or mock to them. The only redemption is I get to usually say I told everyone so when they bust, but actually that is no fun. Shmucking awesome post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Tour2ma said: As long as we don't turn that discernment on ourselves... count me in! Yup... drunk posting... Why do you continue to be stupid about this I am talking into my phone and the voice activation is interpreting it and repeating it that's a plain simple explanation that your deadhead Parrulli can't understand so shut the ShmuckWhy do you continue to be stupid about this I am talking into my phone and the voice activation is interpreting it and repeating it that's a plain simple explanation that your deadhead Parrulli can't understand so shut the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 hours ago, StinkHole said: Sure, as much a useless gesture as this sports talk message board is. fair enough Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 58 minutes ago, SissyBoyFloyd said: drafts are always disappointing to me. Whatever team I call mine never drafts the guys I want or mock to them. The only redemption is I get to usually say I told everyone so when they bust, but actually that is no fun. It's no fun unless your name is GooleyIt's no fun unless your name is Gooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-draft-winners-losers-packers-giants-browns-score-big-while-rosen-is-a-win-for-cardinals/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/28/nfl-draft-2018-team-grades-picks-analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/29/nfl-draft-2018-winners-losers Well Dorsey gets mentioned by name. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo fagley Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 10:48 AM, The Gipper said: Grading any draft at this point is merely an exercise in ignorance. I would put my faith in the guy who drafted Kareem Hunt and Travis Kelce before these NFL wannabes. Bashing the Giants for taking Barkley and praising the Ravens for getting Jackson. When Barkley is tearing up the NFL and Jackson crashing and burning these yahoos will no where to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 12 hours ago, boo fagley said: I would put my faith in the guy who drafted Kareem Hunt and Travis Kelce before these NFL wannabes. Bashing the Giants for taking Barkley and praising the Ravens for getting Jackson. When Barkley is tearing up the NFL and Jackson crashing and burning these yahoos will no where to be found. I bashed Barkley....only as a counter to the slaverly behavior of some toward him. My true feelings about him are that he will be good, but not the savior of mankind that these guys thought. Jackson, I do think will struggle. He will have some awesome athletic plays....but as a full time professional QB I am not sure that his skills as a QB were any better than those of JT Barrett....who I believe went undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 13 hours ago, boo fagley said: When Barkley is tearing up the NFL and Jackson crashing and burning these yahoos will no where to be found. Says a "wannabe"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 The good, the bad and the Browns: Teams that defined draft weekend https://search.app.goo.gl/ie31X Shared from my Google feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: The good, the bad and the Browns: Teams that defined draft weekend https://search.app.goo.gl/ie31X Shared from my Google feed Well....that is just one idiot turd's arsehole opinion. Mayfield....WAS..in fact the best QB in college football this year....from all objective measure. And I guess I would have to see the site...but Ward also grades out, talentwise, as well as Chubb, does he not? Let's just make this prediction: Ward will perform better at HIS position than Chubb will perform at his. So...there is your Hot Take: Ward will perform better at CB than Chubb will at DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 First, grading drafts is by and large just another exercise in confirmation bias. The more players you like that a team took, the higher the grade. That said.... I keep looking at LAC's draft... they really confirmed my biases. GB grabbed a lot of value in a lot of players... quality and quantity in one draft. Not many players, but NYG sure grabbed quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Well.....why don't we give Grades to the Draft classes that deserve to be graded at this point: Those 3 to 5 years ago: Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2015 1 Danny Shelton 12 NT 2017 0 0 3 16 46 1.5 Washington 2015 1 Cameron Erving 19 C 2017 0 0 1 10 42 0 0 0 Florida St. 2015 2 Nate Orchard 51 DE 2017 0 0 1 9 34 1 5.0 Utah 2015 3 Duke Johnson 77 RB 2017 0 0 0 15 48 0 1 0 0 0 259 1085 5 188 1741 5 Miami (FL) 2015 3 Xavier Cooper 96 DT 2017 0 0 0 4 40 3.0 Washington St. 2015 4 Ibraheim Campbell 115 SS 2017 0 0 0 5 38 Northwestern 2015 4 Vince Mayle 123 WR 2017 0 0 0 0 23 2 2 1 0 0 0 Washington St. 2015 6 Charles Gaines 189 CB 2015 0 0 0 1 6 Louisville 2015 6 Malcolm Johnson 195 TE 2016 0 0 0 0 19 1 2 0 9 59 0 Mississippi St. 2015 6 Randall Telfer 198 TE 2017 0 0 1 0 30 5 40 0 USC 2015 7 Hayes Pullard 219 ILB 2017 0 0 0 8 37 1 USC 2015 7 Ifo Ekpre-Olomu 241 CB 0 0 0 Oregon Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2014 1 Justin Gilbert 8 DB 2016 0 0 0 4 35 1 Oklahoma St. 2014 1 Johnny Manziel 22 QB 2015 0 0 0 5 15 147 258 1675 7 7 46 259 1 Texas A&M 2014 2 Joel Bitonio 35 G 2017 0 0 3 17 47 Nevada 2014 3 Christian Kirksey 71 LB 2017 0 0 3 21 64 11.5 Iowa 2014 3 Terrance West 94 RB 2017 0 0 1 12 43 465 1816 11 51 344 2 Towson 2014 4 Pierre Desir 127 DB 2017 0 0 0 5 33 1 Lindenwood Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2013 1 Barkevious Mingo 6 LB 2017 0 0 1 16 78 1 9.0 LSU 2013 3 Leon McFadden 68 DB 2016 0 0 0 2 34 San Diego St. 2013 6 Jamoris Slaughter 175 DB 0 0 0 Notre Dame 2013 7 Armonty Bryant 217 DE 2016 0 0 0 4 36 11.5 East Central (OK) 2013 7 Garrett Gilkey 227 T 2014 0 0 0 2 22 Chadron St. Give a grade to each of these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 2013....an F. No one...including Mingo contributed at all to the Browns...not really 2014...a B minus I think. Two solid performers still with Browns, Kirksey/Bito. (despite the shite at the top of that draft) 2015. A C at best. Three players still here....Orchard/Telfer. Duke Johnson saves it from a D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Gipper said: 2013....an F. No one...including Mingo contributed at all to the Browns...not really 2014...a B minus I think. Two solid performers still with Browns, Kirksey/Bito. (despite the shite at the top of that draft) 2015. A C at best. Three players still here....Orchard/Telfer. Duke Johnson saves it from a D. I think Orchard is history. And so does 247. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Post-NFL-Draft-Browns-Mock-Depth-Chart-117830703?utm_source=247Sports Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=180430_150404_Cleveland Browns&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=1B-C2-1E-69-15-F3-1E-26-47-C2-FB-AF-1F-3D-14-30180430_150404ClevelandBrowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 hours ago, The Gipper said: 2013....an F. No one...including Mingo contributed at all to the Browns...not really 2014...a B minus I think. Two solid performers still with Browns, Kirksey/Bito. (despite the shite at the top of that draft) 2015. A C at best. Three players still here....Orchard/Telfer. Duke Johnson saves it from a D. I agree with 2013, probably would give 2015 a D+, but I can't go along with the B- on '14. I just can't give a draft where your TWO 1st rounders are absolute abortions a B-, even if Bitonio and Kirsey have been good starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: I agree with 2013, probably would give 2015 a D+, but I can't go along with the B- on '14. I just can't give a draft where your TWO 1st rounders are absolute abortions a B-, even if Bitonio and Kirsey have been good starters. BROWNS 2010 era drafts can be summed up by the words "do over". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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