Orion Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, The Gipper said: Rudolph goes in round one. Are you a taker? He's a big kid QB. And QB's are rated on a curve. He could go in round 1 I guess. We have the #1 overall pick....in a draft where 4 QB's may go pretty high in round 1. May I please have the best one in the draft for once? Please? Teams have been jockeying around to get in position to draft one of the four. Let's not try and outsmart the league again this year ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Orion said: He's a big kid QB. And QB's are rated on a curve. He could go in round 1 I guess. We have the #1 overall pick....in a draft where 4 QB's may go pretty high in round 1. May I please have the best one in the draft for once? Please? Teams have been jockeying around to get in position to draft one of the four. Let's not try and outsmart the league again this year ok? LOL, want to bet Gip at least three QBs get picked before Rudolph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, hoorta said: That CBS still has Rudolph as their #1 qb is ludicrous. I've yet to see their rationale making Rudolph the #1 prospect, or did they just pull names out of a hat? Every other ranking I looked at has Mason around #5 or #6 as a qb prospect. Saying there's no drop off in the talent level 1-6 is crazy. EDIT: After meditating on this one, here you go Gipper- the CBS ranking is what's called a "contrarian" ranking. They think they'll get more clicks by being stupid instead of ranking the prospects the same as everyone else. Here's a prospect ranking that in my book that carries a lot more weight- Daniel Jeremiah's http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000919918/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-prospects-for-2018-nfl-draft-20 Rudolph isn't even listed in his top 50 prospects. BTW, DJ has Darnold as his #7 prospect- so projecting him at #4 is hardly a "reach", Considering every one ahead of him is a position player, not crazy at all to take Darnold at #1. Except that he is 3 to 4 inches taller than Mayfield. So what you call country and I simply call accurate Maybe what CBS saw was what I saw. He's very mediocre bunch of quarterbacks that are vastly overrated. In Rudolph fits in there with them and has produced every bit as much as any of them have except perhaps Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Orion said: He's a big kid QB. And QB's are rated on a curve. He could go in round 1 I guess. We have the #1 overall pick....in a draft where 4 QB's may go pretty high in round 1. May I please have the best one in the draft for once? Please? Teams have been jockeying around to get in position to draft one of the four. Let's not try and outsmart the league again this year ok? Problem is they're really has no clue as to who is the best one. And my pin that Rudolph me in the long run long run prove to be the best is just as viable as any other opinionProblem is they're really has no clue as to who is the best one. And my pin that Rudolph me in the long run long run prove to be the best is just as viable as any other opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 10:26 PM, hoorta said: LOL, want to bet Gip at least three QBs get picked before Rudolph? Hello McFly I have said all along that the other QBs " rated higher" than Rudolph will likely get drafted before he will. My bet is that he'll be taken in round one. Are you in on that particular bet? See....this bet, never accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Rudolph me in the long run long run prove to be the best is just as viable as any other opinion In premise...but I'd prefer to have the one that Dorsey thinks is the best this time. I've wanted Rosen....but I don't like his number. We used to have a guy that wore #14 that won some games for us......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Orion said: In premise...but I'd prefer to have the one that Dorsey thinks is the best this time. I've wanted Rosen....but I don't like his number. We used to have a guy that wore #14 that won some games for us......... Sorry that number is retiredSorry that number is retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Problem is they're really has no clue as to who is the best one. And my pin that Rudolph me in the long run long run prove to be the best is just as viable as any other opinion. Problem is they're really has no clue as to who is the best one. And my opinion that Rudolph me in the long run long run prove to be the best is just as viable as any other opinion So we keep going for lower rated (by the experts) qbs just like we have since Couch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 hours ago, hoorta said: So we keep going for lower rated (by the experts) qbs just like we have since Couch. "Tradition!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 7 hours ago, hoorta said: So we keep going for lower rated (by the experts) qbs just like we have since Couch. Clearly you haven't seen the bargain QB thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 For what it's worth, I never give CBSports draft material any credence at all, I probably rely on NFL.com the most because I listen then on Sirius during the day, but there are tons of good sites. And, For what it's worth .... We're going QB #1. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 9 hours ago, hoorta said: So we keep going for lower rated (by the experts) qbs just like we have since Couch. How about this: do what the Apache/Iriquois did and take 2 QBs. Get one with #1......get Chubb #4. And with one of our 3 2d rounders take another QB.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 Most of you focused on the second clause of my "solution".......while ignoring the first....more important perhaps part of it: What about the idea of picking both Chubb and Barkley with 1 and 4? (without consideration to whom they may take later at QB). After all, most people put those 2 actually above the QBs....on a pure talent level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Clearly you haven't seen the bargain QB thread Sure I did Woody. Of course, great QBs have been found lower in the draft or FA, like the grocery bagging Kurt Warner or Tony Romo. There are zillions of stats the lower you pick a player (not just a QB) the worse your odds he's going to be a stud. For every 6th round Tom Brady, there's 20 Spergon Wynn's. I did a little research, first round QBs since 2000. The hit rate is about 8\41 to get a great QB, then every thing in the middle, and around 14\41 busts. That's the reason top QB prospects get drafted high in the first round, and not the sixth. Way better odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 Take it easy on CBS guys... it's the first time they've ventured out with their own ranking in years. 12 hours ago, hoorta said: LOL, want to bet Gip at least three QBs get picked before Rudolph? You can safely go to at least 4, and probably to 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Most of you focused on the second clause of my "solution".......while ignoring the first....more important perhaps part of it: What about the idea of picking both Chubb and Barkley with 1 and 4? (without consideration to whom they may take later at QB). After all, most people put those 2 actually above the QBs....on a pure talent level. Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Take it easy on CBS guys... it's the first time they've ventured out with their own ranking in years. You can safely go to at least 4, and probably to 5. So....are you in on the bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: So....are you in on the bet? That 4 QBs will be taken before Rudolph? Done for $100! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: That 4 QBs will be taken before Rudolph? Done for $100! No....Read it properly....the bet is that Rudolph will be taken in Round One....and its for lunch...or whatever was proposed above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, hoorta said: Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round. You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!" It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, PoeticG said: You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!" It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen. Zero chance Po, ZERO chance. I'm so confident Barkley's not happening at #1 overall- no bet involved on your part- I'll give you a pair of tickets to the home opener against the Steelers should it come to pass, so you can drool all over your hero's first NFL game in person. Not kidding. OTOH, if it's pretty likely LOL, you should have no problem putting up the $260 bucks the tickets are worth, but you've already chickened out on all the other bets that have been put out there.... And you had better be ready when we hear Darnold\ Mayfield with the first pick, and totally pass on Saquon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, PoeticG said: You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!" It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen. Only You have such insane delusions. You must be singing that to Barky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, hoorta said: Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round. By the way Larry, did you see my PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Gipper said: By the way Larry, did you see my PM. I did- give me some time to think about it, won't be able to do a "grand tour" though. Regarding the hotel. Research says the BBs got a group rate last year at the Holiday Inn- it's literally on the edge of the stadium parking lot. IIRC, it was in the $100 a night range. And for sure, I won't be flying Frontier. The boogers unilaterally changed the flight schedule, and I got screwed out of $300. From non stops- to stopovers in Denver. Pick one- leave @ 5AM Monday morning after the game, or stay overnight in Denver with a 6PM flight. Bite me. Try to get a live person to complain to? Lotsa luck there- I gave up after being on hold 45 minutes+, twice. (They eventually did give me a partial refund, which expired way before I could use it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, hoorta said: I did- give me some time to think about it, won't be able to do a "grand tour" though. Regarding the hotel. Research says the BBs got a group rate last year at the Holiday Inn- it's literally on the edge of the stadium parking lot. IIRC, it was in the $100 a night range. And for sure, I won't be flying Frontier. The boogers unilaterally changed the flight schedule, and I got screwed out of $300. From non stops- to stopovers in Denver. Pick one- leave @ 5AM Monday morning after the game, or stay overnight in Denver with a 6PM flight. Bite me. Try to get a live person to complain to? Lotsa luck there- I gave up after being on hold 45 minutes+, twice. (They eventually did give me a partial refund, which expired way before I could use it.) I had a bad flight with Frontier....not so sure their customer service was so bad. I did not have the issues you did. Cant remember exactly where I was going. Out west somewhere. And fair deal otherwise. I just wanted to know if there was going to be a group going....even if it is a small group...such that adding a couple or 3 days to my LOU. trip would be worth it by there being somewhat of a gathering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, The Gipper said: I had a bad flight with Frontier....not so sure their customer service was so bad. I did not have the issues you did. Cant remember exactly where I was going. Out west somewhere. And fair deal otherwise. I just wanted to know if there was going to be a group going....even if it is a small group...such that adding a couple or 3 days to my LOU. trip would be worth it by there being somewhat of a gathering. I think Top Dawg may be going, and Tour will be trying to pry away from the relatives. He'll be at the game for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 hours ago, PoeticG said: You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!" It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen. The draft needs to get here STAT. PoG is now bringing up Barkley and "swallowing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: The draft needs to get here STAT. PoG is now bringing up Barkley and "swallowing". So? Are you saying that he is not keeping things to strictly "mental" masturbation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Gipper said: So? Are you saying that he is not keeping things to strictly "mental" masturbation? Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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