Westside Steve Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield: The Browns could be down to these two, sources say https://search.app.goo.gl/YtZT7 Shared from my Google feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, The Gipper said: Well....assume the Browns take a QB....then Giants take Chubb....then Jets take QB.....and Browns do trade down to a team that wants/needs a QB Bills/Dolphins whomever. Do you claim that the Broncos will nab him? I don't know why keep going around with me. I feel the Browns should walk away with their QB and either Barkley or Chubb at 1 and four. I do not feel that Dorsey is mentally retarded, and I feel that he would have to be to trade out of #4 if Barkley and/or Chubb is there, so I am not engaging in trade down scenarios. If we take the QB and Chubb, and Barkley is sitting there, yes, I feel the Broncos would take him. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, Zombo said: I don't know why keep going around with me. I feel the Browns should walk away with their QB and either Barkley or Chubb at 1 and four. I do not feel that Dorsey is mentally Retarded, and I feel that he would have to be to trade out of #4 if Barkley and/or Chubb is there, so I am not engaging in trade down scenarios. If we take the QB and Chubb, and Barkley is sitting there, yes, I feel the Broncos would take him. Zombo Well, maybe these posts are misplaced.....they should be over in the "trade down scenario" thread. The purpose of that thread IS to "engage in trade down scenarios". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 ... and zombo goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield: The Browns could be down to these two, sources say https://search.app.goo.gl/YtZT7 Shared from my Google feed MKC Steve, 'nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: ... and zombo goes... I think, rather that you are internalizing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 If it is Allen or Mayfield ......Giants take Darnold and Jets take Rosen, we then have to decide ....Chubb, Barkley or trade down....some say Denzel Ward would be in play but not with that scenario of Giants taking Darnold ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 47 minutes ago, darren15 said: If it is Allen or Mayfield ......Giants take Darnold and Jets take Rosen, we then have to decide ....Chubb, Barkley or trade down....some say Denzel Ward would be in play but not with that scenario of Giants taking Darnold ....... Most say that the Giants take either Barkley or Chubb...and not a QB. But maybe they assume that Barkley will go #1. What makes you think they would change there mind about taking a QB if Darnold were available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Most say that the Giants take either Barkley or Chubb...and not a QB. But maybe they assume that Barkley will go #1. What makes you think they would change there mind about taking a QB if Darnold were available? I have seen reports saying how high the Giants are on Darnold .....Ben Albright was just on Browns daily and he said if Browns take Mayfield Giants will take Darnold...but Giants go Barkley or Chubb if Darnold goes at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Too small. pin this idiotic thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Zombo said: I don't know why keep going around with me. I feel the Browns should walk away with their QB and either Barkley or Chubb at 1 and four. I do not feel that Dorsey is mentally Retarded, and I feel that he would have to be to trade out of #4 if Barkley and/or Chubb is there, so I am not engaging in trade down scenarios. If we take the QB and Chubb, and Barkley is sitting there, yes, I feel the Broncos would take him. Zombo Barkley at #1. One of the best QBs at #4 will still be there. None of the QBs have an edge, they are all equal odds. Barkley is the best player in the draft. By the way, I challenged Barkley to a fight and told him he has to fly to either Memphis or Vegas. He won't do either, He is afraid of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Ghoolie said: Barkley at #1. One of the best QBs at #4 will still be there. None of the QBs have an edge, they are all equal odds. Barkley is the best player in the draft. By the way, I challenged Barkley to a fight and told him he has to fly to either Memphis or Vegas. He won't do either, He is afraid of me. Well...if you want to fight him....you won't be coming to Cleveland either..because he won't be here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 If the Browns take Barkley #1... Who do the Giants take #2? Then who do the Jets take #3? Who does that leave us with at #4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, PoeticG said: If the Browns take Barkley #1... Who do the Giants take #2? - I'm going to say they either trade down- could be with Cleveland or they take or Nelson/Chubb. I'm convinced they pass on a QB. Then who do the Jets take #3? With All of the QBs still available, which one will they take. Who does that leave us with at #4? Leaves us with our choice of QBs... Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield/Allen/Rudolph/Jackson minus one of them... a perfect place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Here's mine + other DBN staff members: https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/4/25/17281598/2018-nfl-draft-preview-dbn-mock-drafts-including-the-browns-first-4-picks-staff-edition Pick Team Andrea Hangst Mike Hoag DBN Community 1 Sam Darnold Josh Allen Lamar Jackson 2 Saquon Barkley Saquon Barkley Baker Mayfield 3 Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold Bradley Chubb 4 Bradley Chubb Bradley Chubb Denzel Ward 5 Josh Rosen Baker Mayfield Saquon Barkley 6 Denzel Ward Quenton Nelson Quenton Nelson 7 Derwin James Minkah Fitzpatrick Minkah Fitzpatrick 8 Quenton Nelson Denzel Ward Tremaine Edmunds 9 Minkah Fitzpatrick Tremaine Edmunds Marcus Davenport 10 Roquan Smith Derwin James Roquan Smith 11 Vita Vea Vita Vea Josh Rosen 12 Josh Allen Josh Rosen Sam Darnold 13 Tremaine Edmunds Da'Ron Payne Derwin James 14 Josh Jackson Jaire Alexander Harold Landry 15 Lamar Jackson Calvin Ridley Josh Allen 16 Mike McGlinchey Roquan Smith Calvin Ridley 17 Da'Ron Payne Rashaan Evans Vita Vea 18 Harold Landry Josh Jackson Mike Hughes 19 Calvin Ridley D.J. Moore Will Hernandez 20 Marcus Davenport Taven Bryan Taven Bryan 21 Will Hernandez Marcus Davenport Isaiah Wynn 22 Kolton Miller Courtland Sutton Christian Kirk 23 Rashaan Evans Mike McGlinchey Kolton Miller 24 D.J. Moore Harold Landry D.J. Moore 25 Arden Key Billy Price Arden Key 26 Maurice Hurst Maurice Hurst Da'Ron Payne 27 Hayden Hurst Lamar Jackson Lorenzo Carter 28 Leighton Vander Esch Ronnie Harrison Leighton Vander Esch 29 Courtland Sutton Will Hernandez Rashaan Evans 30 Connor Williams Kolton Miller Mike McGlinchey 31 Jaire Alexander Derrius Guice Mike Gesicki 32 Sony Michel Ronald Jones Connor Williams 33 Geron Christian Sony Michel Maurice Hurst 34 Mason Rudolph Arden Key Derrius Guice 35 Rashaad Penny Isaiah Oliver Sam Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 I thought Roquan Smith would slide a little, but I'm hearing that probably won't happen. Kind of throws a wrench in mine already. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 46 minutes ago, Mike H said: I thought Roquan Smith would slide a little, but I'm hearing that probably won't happen. Kind of throws a wrench in mine already. We'll see. I would love it if he would slide and somehow the Browns ended up with him..... that dude is going to be an absolute beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 49 minutes ago, Mike H said: I thought Roquan Smith would slide a little, but I'm hearing that probably won't happen. Kind of throws a wrench in mine already. We'll see. Nice job, but I'm hoping not Allen, (Troy Aikman doesn't like him at #1 either) and Lamar for sure isn't happening at #1. Also guaranteed there's going to be a bunch of trades, and guys going higher or lower than projected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigalow80 Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, hx214 said: I would love it if he would slide and somehow the Browns ended up with him..... that dude is going to be an absolute beast It's just the opposite. His stock is going up. They are saying he's going top 10, no question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, hoorta said: Nice job, but I'm hoping not Allen, (Troy Aikman doesn't like him at #1 either) and Lamar for sure isn't happening at #1. Also guaranteed there's going to be a bunch of trades, and guys going higher or lower than projected. Well Phil Simms was really pushing for Allen today as the best of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Mike H said: Here's mine + other DBN staff members: https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/4/25/17281598/2018-nfl-draft-preview-dbn-mock-drafts-including-the-browns-first-4-picks-staff-edition Pick Team Andrea Hangst Mike Hoag DBN Community 1 Sam Darnold Josh Allen Lamar Jackson 2 Saquon Barkley Saquon Barkley Baker Mayfield 3 Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold Bradley Chubb 4 Bradley Chubb Bradley Chubb Denzel Ward 5 Josh Rosen Baker Mayfield Saquon Barkley 6 Denzel Ward Quenton Nelson Quenton Nelson 7 Derwin James Minkah Fitzpatrick Minkah Fitzpatrick 8 Quenton Nelson Denzel Ward Tremaine Edmunds 9 Minkah Fitzpatrick Tremaine Edmunds Marcus Davenport 10 Roquan Smith Derwin James Roquan Smith 11 Vita Vea Vita Vea Josh Rosen 12 Josh Allen Josh Rosen Sam Darnold 13 Tremaine Edmunds Da'Ron Payne Derwin James 14 Josh Jackson Jaire Alexander Harold Landry 15 Lamar Jackson Calvin Ridley Josh Allen 16 Mike McGlinchey Roquan Smith Calvin Ridley 17 Da'Ron Payne Rashaan Evans Vita Vea 18 Harold Landry Josh Jackson Mike Hughes 19 Calvin Ridley D.J. Moore Will Hernandez 20 Marcus Davenport Taven Bryan Taven Bryan 21 Will Hernandez Marcus Davenport Isaiah Wynn 22 Kolton Miller Courtland Sutton Christian Kirk 23 Rashaan Evans Mike McGlinchey Kolton Miller 24 D.J. Moore Harold Landry D.J. Moore 25 Arden Key Billy Price Arden Key 26 Maurice Hurst Maurice Hurst Da'Ron Payne 27 Hayden Hurst Lamar Jackson Lorenzo Carter 28 Leighton Vander Esch Ronnie Harrison Leighton Vander Esch 29 Courtland Sutton Will Hernandez Rashaan Evans 30 Connor Williams Kolton Miller Mike McGlinchey 31 Jaire Alexander Derrius Guice Mike Gesicki 32 Sony Michel Ronald Jones Connor Williams 33 Geron Christian Sony Michel Maurice Hurst 34 Mason Rudolph Arden Key Derrius Guice 35 Rashaad Penny Isaiah Oliver Sam Hubbard Well, the DBN Community has a draft I'd be excited over. Lamar, Ward and Mo? Haha that would be some entertaining Sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Top NFL Draft quarterback explains why he hung up the phone on Brett Favre's agent https://search.app.goo.gl/kB5om Shared from my Google feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Top NFL Draft quarterback explains why he hung up the phone on Brett Favre's agent https://search.app.goo.gl/kB5om Shared from my Google feed Good for Baker. That agent obviously did little to no homework to learn about Baker & didn't deserve to represent him. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 17 hours ago, darren15 said: If it is Allen or Mayfield ......Giants take Darnold and Jets take Rosen, we then have to decide ....Chubb, Barkley or trade down....some say Denzel Ward would be in play but not with that scenario of Giants taking Darnold ....... Read the same thing. Then the possible trade down from #4 goes off the board because one extra QB off the board decreases the price for #4. Dorsey then has to take either Chubb or Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Top NFL Draft quarterback explains why he hung up the phone on Brett Favre's agent https://search.app.goo.gl/kB5om Shared from my Google feed That is great, I’d have no problem if Dorsey called his name at #1 tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter FollowingFollowing @AdamSchefter More Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, darren15 said: Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter FollowingFollowing @AdamSchefter More Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield. It may very well be - Tyrod and Mayfield - about the same size. and leadership. and playmaking on the move ability... accurate, smart, ...etc. If you don't worry about Mayfield's height, and figure he won't have maturity issues in the NFL... it does make sense. ************************* http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/24/does-john-dorseys-assessment-of-tyrod-taylor-point-to-baker-mayfield/ “I loved Tyrod coming out of college, I always did,” Dorsey said at the time. “I thought there was a dynamic set about him, not only his athleticism [and his] ability to extend a play, but he had — as coach [Frank] Beamer would always say, ‘He’s one of the best leaders I’ve ever been around.’ He’s got enough arm talent with accuracy to get the ball downfield, and he doesn’t turn the ball over.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 46 minutes ago, darren15 said: Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter FollowingFollowing @AdamSchefter More Browns continue to keep the decision on their No. 1 pick a secret, but there is a mounting belief from HCs and GMs around the league that Cleveland will take Baker Mayfield. I prefer Darnold, but if they are all in on Mayfield I'm cool with that, he is my second choice. Pair Barkley with him. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 11:09 AM, Tour2ma said: Fair enough... and not to reignite things, but... I fail to see the rationale for drawing a line at the Defenses once team strength is brought into the QB evaluation equation. If scouts are looking at tape of UCLA's defense to evaluate Josh Rosen - I sincerely hope they're not our's. I've never read or heard any draft analyst or scout say UCLA's defense is the concern about Rosen so I don't see why it's brought up as one all the time. For example, he got more credit than Darnold did in their 2017 head to head when UCLA lost to USC 28-23. Lashley led UCLA with 10 rec for 204 yds and 3 TDs on a day Rosen went 32 of 52 for 421 yards for 3 TDs and 1 INT. In comparison, S. Mitchell Jr led USC with 4 rec 56 yards on a night Darnold went 17 of 28 for 264 yards and 1 INT. Most viewers concluded Rosen outplayed Darnold with no mention of UCLA's defense killing Rosen's draft stock that night. I've seen a lot of people pointing out the difference in competitive value between Rosen and Allen in the games they lost was UCLA's offense continued to amass a lot of yardage and score a lot of points via their passing games. If anything, a bad defense can keep a prolific passer in a bunch of shoot-outs he wants on center stage. For example, in 2005 Vandy's defense wasn't good enough to stop SEC opponents - so Cutler got into a bunch shootouts that earned him the SEC Offensive Player of the Year honors. They were never Bowl eligible throughout his tenure at Vandy. That said, he's the only Vandy QB I've seen in drafted as high as #11 overall. In the end, the biggest hurdle Rosen is facing doesn't have anything to do with UCLA's defense. Fair or not, it will be his concussion inventory and in some instances his attitude (which I like by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zombo said: I prefer Darnold, but if they are all in on Mayfield I'm cool with that, he is my second choice. Pair Barkley with him. Zombo And if we take Mayfield it's better than 50% odds the Giants then take Darnold leaving Barkley for us. Tough choice then for our later round RB picker Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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