Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 I was going to respond with an actual argument but then I saw someone basically say Duke is just as good of a slot receiver as Landry. I definitely don’t miss these scorching hot takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Well with one of the worst HC’s and some of the worst QB play imaginable Duke averages more yards per catch, more yards per target and more yards after catch. But apparently that means Sheet because, pro bowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 hours ago, LondonBrown said: An article I read a while back that has had me worried since and today sure didn't help Your article states that he averages 10 yard per catch. It complains that he catches most around the 5 yard range and only gets 5 yac. Now I don't pretend to comprehend high in math but what that says to me is he averages a first down per catch, you know 10 yards is a first down and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 hours ago, LondonBrown said: If you say we have to overpay then you're admitting we overpaid, which is my issue... We are a 1 - 23 football team. How in the hell can you not understand we will pay a premium for ANY decent player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Seems a lot of people are underestimating Landry, and the impact of possession/slot receivers. This has been one of the greatest weaknesses of Browns offenses for the past decade. 2 things, consistency and ability to separate quickly. For a comparison, Brady destroys the league every year with Landry-type recievers (but less talented) and TEs. Best way to keep LBs on their heels is to force them to consider coverage issues. Duke, Landry, and Njoku (if he continues to develop) could be the best benefits to our running game. The "go-deep" and outside WRs are seriously overrated. They may put safeties on their heels but they rarely lead teams to championships. Rant over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, LondonBrown said: Some of you can’t handle another opinion without aiming abuse. And I’m the crybaby 🤣 Syd's a dickhead crybaby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Well then what alternative would you propose a historically bad team to do in order to attract and retain talent? I don’t think this contract is overpaying but that seems to be your consistent gripe. I personally don’t care about the idea of what is or isn’t overpaying until the Browns can put out a product that would attract free agents and encourage players to stick around. Exactly- until we start winning- we're going to have to pay a premium for top players. Some guys like Cousins and Suh wouldn't even consider the Browns- because why play for a dumpster fire regardless of how much I can make. Guys like that coming off Franchise tags- or the equivalent- are already set for life, they can pick and chose their destinations. Also paying Landry sends a clear message to the rest of the League- come here, if you're good enough we'll pay you. 2 hours ago, LondonBrown said: That isn't very much is it, we could have got that out of Duke or a slot WR in the draft and not paid them elite WR money LOL, and having a historical amount of cap room got us 0-16 last year. Thing is- we still have more cap room than anyone- I wouldn't worry too much about what Landry is getting.... Even if Gordon behaves and we have to pay him out the wazoo next year on top of that. So you want to gamble Christian Kirk not only will be there at #33, but can put up Landry's production? Changing Duke to a slot receiver is going to bump him up to 100+ catches? Sorry, that's crazy, it already would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, hoorta said: Sorry, that's crazy, it already would have happened. Maybe if our HC knew his arse from his elbow it would have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Syd's a dickhead crybaby. hahahahhahahaahahahahahah F.U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 I think this is an overpay but we have a top of cap space and frankly given our record we are going to have to overpay players in the short term. That being said the devil is in the details of the contract, he is guaranteed less than 10 mil per year on average for the deal, so there is probably opt out room after 3 years if needed. If Browns start winning games, people won't care about his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Syd's a dickhead crybaby. Aren't you the one who ran to the moderators on here with your girlfriend calfox when both of your snowflake feelings got so, so hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Aren't you the one who ran to the moderators on here with your girlfriend calfox when both of your snowflake feelings got so, so hurt? that's been his m.o for years along with the dickface shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, syd said: that's been his m.o for years along with the dickface shep Shep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, Dutch Oven said: Shep? heard he posted here I knew the dickfaced crying to the mods fukc from a different board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 hours ago, LondonBrown said: @JoshFin 6m6 minutes ago More Just in: Guy lambasted for a career of not being good with the cap does things that are bad for the cap Don't worry, this is what a rebuild looks like. Just remember the posts from last year. The Browns FO is very advanced and they are doing things that the other 31 teams are just too stupid to understand. Landry is a Hue Jackson pick. Make no mistake about it. Hue likes the dink and dump, high percentage offense. Hue is NOT going to stretch the field and he not going to choose a QB who isn't a black Tarkenton. Get ready for Lamarkenton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Haha, let's not spend any money and continue to suck. The master plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Two things- 1- Landry was on a one year trial and then we would have to try and resign him. We basically are signing him to a 4 year extension for 10 million a year. Not bad for a guy that you won't have to question his hands or if the QB threw a catchable ball. If Landry don't catch it, it's on the QB. 2- Duke Johnson may or may not be here after this year. With Barkley starting Duke may not even see the field that much. Gordon, Landry, Njoku, Barkley and Coleman with Taylor's scrambling threat will be a nightmare to try and stop- but it'll be fun to watch them try anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, PoeticG said: Two things- 1- Landry was on a one year trial and then we would have to try and resign him. We basically are signing him to a 4 year extension for 10 million a year. Not bad for a guy that you won't have to question his hands or if the QB threw a catchable ball. If Landry don't catch it, it's on the QB. 2- Duke Johnson may or may not be here after this year. With Barkley starting Duke may not even see the field that much. Gordon, Landry, Njoku, Barkley and Coleman with Taylor's scrambling threat will be a nightmare to try and stop- but it'll be fun to watch them try anyway Po we love ya- but Barkley probably isn't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Ghoolie said: Don't worry, this is what a rebuild looks like. Just remember the posts from last year. The Browns FO is very advanced and they are doing things that the other 31 teams are just too stupid to understand. Landry is a Hue Jackson pick. Make no mistake about it. Hue likes the dink and dump, high percentage offense. Hue is NOT going to stretch the field and he not going to choose a QB who isn't a black Tarkenton. Get ready for Lamarkenton. Hue isn't making the pick- since you made $300k betting the slots, and won't bet me $35 bucks we're not taking Jackson? Get outta here with that weak $hit. You can can the Jimmy cheapster crap too, since Haslam apparently OKed Dorsey spending $73 million of his money on a guy some idjits think is under talented and over paid. Hue isn't smart enough (by your constant past posting) to pick up a pro bowl WR for a fourth round pick. He wanted to spend a second and third round on a quarterback who probably isn't even as good as Taylor. You so blind to not even see Hue is 100% in damage control mode after the rest of the NFL made him look like a total buffoon? Sure, if Sashi was still in charge, we'd still be stuck with Kizer, and certainly we're trading down out of #4 to take that next great slot receiver Christian Kirk in the bottom half of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 ha that’s the best yet, no hint as to why we even have pick #4 in the first place I can give you a clue if you like... Id be surprised if Dorsey doesn’t trade back there. The pick has huge value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 But since that comes with our territory... Folks have said we overpaid for all our FA signings as well.. no better example than Currie. Thing is none of those were headline contracts. Back on Landry... I think the trend in his stats is informative. His YPR was trending up until he ran into Cutler in 2017. Not sure how that squares with the rise in TDs last season, but I can't do all the work here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 This is a great signing, he is exactly what this team needs ... talented, passionate, healthy, young ... GOOD AT HIS JOB. If Landry catches 8 balls for 80 yards to keep drives going while Gordon scores two TDS on 4 grabs and Nojoku 1 TD on three grabs ... we're winning that game. This guy is a QUARTERBACK'S BEST FRIEND. We are drafting a quarterback #1 ... If I have to spell it out any further ... If we signed a top LT to protect the QB no one would bitch about the money ... but we sign perhaps THE best possession receiver in the league to protect the QB ... and we overpaid because he doesn't make enough big plays. They all don't have to be "big" ... there's other weapons for that, but he have to start by in fact "MAKING PLAYS" big or small. We're in the business of winning football games. This guy just filled a huge need so we can finally start moving in that direction. Duke Johnson? Bitch, please ... Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Duke in the possession WR role is not far-fetched. He was our leading receiver last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 hours ago, PoeticG said: Two things- 1- Landry was on a one year trial and then we would have to try and resign him. We basically are signing him to a 4 year extension for 10 million a year. Not bad for a guy that you won't have to question his hands or if the QB threw a catchable ball. If Landry don't catch it, it's on the QB. 2- Duke Johnson may or may not be here after this year. With Barkley starting Duke may not even see the field that much. Gordon, Landry, Njoku, Barkley and Coleman with Taylor's scrambling threat will be a nightmare to try and stop- but it'll be fun to watch them try anyway Do you measure the volume after you wank off to the thought of Barkley? Per some accounts, the amount comes to about 10 cc: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Zombo said: This is a great signing, he is exactly what this team needs ... talented, passionate, healthy, young ... GOOD AT HIS JOB. If Landry catches 8 balls for 80 yards to keep drives going while Gordon scores two TDS on 4 grabs and Nojoku 1 TD on three grabs ... we're winning that game. This guy is a QUARTERBACK'S BEST FRIEND. We are drafting a quarterback #1 ... If I have to spell it out any further ... If we signed a top LT to protect the QB no one would bitch about the money ... but we sign perhaps THE best possession receiver in the league to protect the QB ... and we overpaid because he doesn't make enough big plays. They all don't have to be "big" ... there's other weapons for that, but he have to start by in fact "MAKING PLAYS" big or small. We're in the business of winning football games. This guy just filled a huge need so we can finally start moving in that direction. Duke Johnson? Bitch, please ... Zombo Red Cashion: FIRST DOWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 45 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Duke in the possession WR role is not far-fetched. He was our leading receiver last season. No...not far fetched. But probably half or more of his catches were made when he lined up in the backfield. He can certainly still do that. And he would still be decent run threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 58 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Duke in the possession WR role is not far-fetched. He was our leading receiver last season. Duke is a third down back with one year left on his contract. Valuable player, sure. Long-term WR answer for this franchise ... no. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Zombo said: Duke is a third down back with one year left on his contract. Valuable player, sure. Long-term WR answer for this franchise ... no. Zombo We are\ were trying to extend him though. No recent news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Zombo said: This is a great signing, he is exactly what this team needs ... talented, passionate, healthy, young ... GOOD AT HIS JOB. If Landry catches 8 balls for 80 yards to keep drives going while Gordon scores two TDS on 4 grabs and Nojoku 1 TD on three grabs ... we're winning that game. This guy is a QUARTERBACK'S BEST FRIEND. We are drafting a quarterback #1 ... If I have to spell it out any further ... If we signed a top LT to protect the QB no one would bitch about the money ... but we sign perhaps THE best possession receiver in the league to protect the QB ... and we overpaid because he doesn't make enough big plays. They all don't have to be "big" ... there's other weapons for that, but he have to start by in fact "MAKING PLAYS" big or small. We're in the business of winning football games. This guy just filled a huge need so we can finally start moving in that direction. Duke Johnson? Bitch, please ... Zombo YES.. the drunken bed-wetter who last year told us "Kizer is a great pick, he is a gamer", is now giving his schidt-lined endorsement to a $75 million dollar dink-and-dump WR that Hue Jackson chose to fit into his powerful offense. Zomblow's endorsement talent.................The Barney Fife of football. Hey Zomblow, why don't you challenge Tyson Fury to a fistfight, and then tell me he has to meet you at a Browns game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Zombo said: This is a great signing, he is exactly what this team needs ... talented, passionate, healthy, young ... GOOD AT HIS JOB. If Landry catches 8 balls for 80 yards to keep drives going while Gordon scores two TDS on 4 grabs and Nojoku 1 TD on three grabs ... we're winning that game. This guy is a QUARTERBACK'S BEST FRIEND. We are drafting a quarterback #1 ... If I have to spell it out any further ... If we signed a top LT to protect the QB no one would bitch about the money ... but we sign perhaps THE best possession receiver in the league to protect the QB ... and we overpaid because he doesn't make enough big plays. They all don't have to be "big" ... there's other weapons for that, but he have to start by in fact "MAKING PLAYS" big or small. We're in the business of winning football games. This guy just filled a huge need so we can finally start moving in that direction. Duke Johnson? Bitch, please ... Zombo Also, Jim Brown comes back to join the 2018 team and averages 6.7 ypc. You need to design a fantasy video game and start getting paid for all your fantasy bullschidt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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