■ 2018 - 2019 ODDS TO WIN THE NCAA FOOTBALL NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ■

[mjp28]

On 5/1/2018 at 10:10 AM, The Gipper said:

4 Big Ten teams in the Top 11....

UPDATED 5/9/2018, even though they have not played a game yet:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/futures/

ODDS TO WIN 2018-19 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/7/19)

Team	Odds
Alabama......THE BIG FAVORITE	2/1
Clemson	6/1
3. Ohio State	7/1
Georgia	8/1
5. Michigan	14/1
6. Penn State	16/1
7. Wisconsin	20/1
Florida State	25/1
Oklahoma	25/1
Washington	25/1
Auburn	28/1
Miami, Fl.	28/1
Virginia Tech	33/1
LSU	40/1
Michigan State  THE 5 BIG TEN IN THE TOP 15....	was 65/1 now 40/1
Notre Dame	40/1
Texas	40/1
USC	40/1
Florida	50/1
Stanford	50/1
West Virginia	50/1
Texas A&M	66/1
TCU	66/1
Texas Tech	66/1
USC	66/1
Oklahoma State	66/1
Oregon	66/1
UCLA	100/1

[MLD Woody]

Heard he's visiting LSU and Cincinnati

 

I hope he goes to Cincy 

[Canton Dawg]

17 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Heard he's visiting LSU and Cincinnati

 

I hope he goes to Cincy 

I don't want him in Cincy with Fickell.

I think LSU would be a better fit.

 

[mjp28]

A look ahead not a bad schedule except maybe at PSU and MST.

Ohio State schedule 2018

Date	Opponent	Location
April 14	LifeSports Spring Game	Columbus, Ohio
Sept. 1	Oregon State	Columbus, Ohio
Sept. 8	Rutgers	Columbus, Ohio
Sept. 15	No. 18 TCU	Arlington, Texas
Sept. 22	Tulane	Columbus, Ohio
Sept. 29	at No. 10 Penn State	University Park, Pa.
Oct. 6	Indiana	Columbus, Ohio
Oct. 13	Minnesota	Columbus, Ohio
Oct. 20	at Purdue	West Lafayette, Ind.
Oct. 27	Bye	Off
Nov. 3	Nebraska	Columbus, Ohio
Nov. 10	at No. 16 Michigan State	East Lansing, Mich.
Nov. 17	at Maryland	College Park, Md.
Nov. 24	No. 17 Michigan	Columbus, Ohio
Dec. 1	Big Ten championship	Indianapolis

Bold denotes Big Ten game

[mjp28]

Michigan football schedule 2018

Date	Opponent	Location
April 14	Michigan spring game	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 1	at No. 9 Notre Dame	Notre Dame, Ind.
Sept. 8	Western Michigan	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 15	SMU	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 22	Nebraska	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Sept. 29	at Northwestern	Evanston, Ill.
Oct. 6	Maryland	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Oct. 13	No. 6 Wisconsin	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Oct. 20	at No. 16 Michigan State	East Lansing, Mich.
Oct. 27	Bye	Off
Nov. 3	No. 10 Penn State	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Nov. 10	at Rutgers	Piscataway, N.J.
Nov. 17	Indiana	Ann Arbor, Mich.
Nov. 24	at No. 4 Ohio State	Columbus, Ohio
Dec. 1	Big Ten championship	Indianapolis

Games in bold denote Big Ten games

[MLD Woody]

Our schedule is brutal

[The Gipper]

ODDS TO WIN 2018-19 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/7/19)

Team	Odds
Alabama......THE BIG FAVORITE	2/1
Clemson	6/1
3. Ohio State	7/1
Georgia	8/1
5. Michigan	14/1
6. Penn State	16/1
7. Wisconsin	20/1
Florida State	25/1
Oklahoma	25/1
Washington	25/1
Auburn	28/1
Miami, Fl.	28/1
Virginia Tech	33/1
LSU	40/1
Michigan State  THE 5 BIG TEN IN THE TOP 15....

 

5 Big Ten in Top 15.  4 SEC;   4 ACC  1 Big 12, 1 Pac 12

[The Gipper]

3 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Our schedule is brutal

Well....there are two factors that do make your schedule more "brutal" than say OSUs:    A. You DO have to play Wisconsin, and OSU does not. OSU has to play Minnesota instead.  B. You DO have to play Ohio State....and OSU does not have to play itself....it just has to play Michigan instead.

On the other hand,  OSU does play 2 P5 non conference games. (Ore St. and TCU)    Mich only has to play one...P5 equivalent Notre Dame. 

[mjp28]

3 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Our schedule is brutal

Has to be one of the toughest in the USA, preseason #4, 6, 9, 10, 16 oh yeah.

IF THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY BUCKEYES get by TCU in Texas and PSU in Happy Valley they have a real shot until Michigan at home.

GO BUCKEYES! 

[MLD Woody]

7 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Well....there are two factors that do make your schedule more "brutal" than say OSUs:    A. You DO have to play Wisconsin, and OSU does not. OSU has to play Minnesota instead.  B. You DO have to play Ohio State....and OSU does not have to play itself....it just has to play Michigan instead.

On the other hand,  OSU does play 2 P5 non conference games. (Ore St. and TCU)    Mich only has to play one...P5 equivalent Notre Dame. 

Anything I say about Michigan that isn't overtly negative you have to try and discredit... Lol

[The Gipper]

15 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Anything I say about Michigan that isn't overtly negative you have to try and discredit... Lol

What are you talking about?   I agreed with you.   Wisconsin is a tougher opponent than Minnesota likely will be.  FMU DOES have to play Ohio State.  

At least ratings wise at this point, Notre Dame seems to be a potentially more difficult opponent than TCU.  Of course that remains to be seen as the season goes on.

But, of course, I realize that actual facts are not your strong point.   Or it depends on if you think that the non P5 SMU is on a level as the P5 Oregon State. That also remains to be seen. They are likely close enough that the fact that one is P5 and the other not may not be that big a difference.  Its not like OSU is taking on the cream of the Pac 12....USC, Washington UCLA or the like.

Nevertheless....I understand your natural and rightful propensity to feel inferior. 

[MLD Woody]

Hahahahahaha. The guy least interested in facts is telling me I don't listen to facts. Hahahaha

You aren't bright man

 

Fact of the matter is, like I said, you have to try and undermine anything about Michigan. 

Not to mention you're not even hitting on Home vs Away, which is a huge contributor here. 

Our schedule is brutal

[The Gipper]

10 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Hahahahahaha. The guy least interested in facts is telling me I don't listen to facts. Hahahaha

You aren't bright man

 

Fact of the matter is, like I said, you have to try and undermine anything about Michigan. 

Not to mention you're not even hitting on Home vs Away, which is a huge contributor here. 

Our schedule is brutal

There is not a single fact that I haven't listened to.  You just don't like the facts. 

And, you are right....I didn't pay attention to home vs. away.   Because it is not patricularly relevant.   You have Wisconsin at home, you have Penn St. at home.  You can't have every tough game at home.  Same with OSU.....which has to go on the road to Penn St.  So...as far as the Big Ten schedule is concerned....Michigan has the advantage in home vs. road.

And, FYI....I don't have to TRY at all to undermine anything about Michigan.  They do it all on their own without one bit of help by me.  I just report facts....the ones you hate to hear.

[MLD Woody]

Gip, you can keep saying you're about facts, that doesn't make it true. Any unbiased person can see that. You've proven that time and time again whenever OSU or Michigan is involved. 

Home Field Advantage is obviously relevant in college football. What are you talking about?

Plus, we play MSU and OSU on the road, so what are you even talking about? Plus ND on the road. 

[mjp28]

Just for comparison look at this killer Bama schedule.  

Preseason 8, 13, 25.

Alabama football schedule 2018

Date	Opponent	Location
April 21	A-Day Spring Game	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Sept. 1	Louisville	Orlando, Fla.
Sept. 8	Arkansas State	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Sept. 15	at Ole Miss	Oxford, Miss.
Sept. 22	No. 25 Texas A&M	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Sept. 29	Louisiana-Lafayette	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Oct. 6	at Arkansas	Fayetteville, Ark.
Oct. 13	Missouri	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Oct. 20	at Tennessee	Knoxville, Tenn.
Oct. 27	Bye	Off
Nov. 3	at No. 13 LSU	Baton Rouge, La.
Nov. 10	Mississippi State	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Nov. 17	The Citadel	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Nov. 24	No. 8 Auburn	Tuscaloosa, Ala.
Dec. 1	SEC championship	Atlanta

Bold denotes SEC games

Oh I can't wait for college football!

 

 

[mjp28]

Just for the latest 5/12/2018 vegasinsider.com odds on D-1A football here's the whole lineup, remember too that the oddsmakers don't really care who wins as long as the money gets bet evenly......and that they don't lose money.

ODDS TO WIN 2018-19 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/7/19)

Team	Odds
Alabama	9/4
Clemson	6/1
3.  Ohio State......THE BIG TWO AGAIN?	15/2
Georgia	8/1
5.   Michigan......DON'T LOOK PAST M	15/1
6. Penn State....... EH? NO BARKLEY	15/1
Oklahoma	22/1
Washington	22/1
Auburn	28/1
Florida State	30/1
11. Wisconsin. ......NOT SURE YET, WAS 20/1	30/1
LSU	35/1
Texas	35/1
Miami, Fl.	45/1
Michigan State........NOW #15, THE UPPER ECHELON OF THE B10...	45/1
Virginia Tech	45/1
West Virginia	45/1
18. USC	50/1
19. Notre Dame	55/1
Stanford	55/1
Texas A&M	70/1
Florida	100/1
UCLA	110/1
Arizona	120/1
Boise State	120/1
Kansas State	120/1
Mississippi State	120/1
Missouri	120/1
Oklahoma State	120/1
Oregon	120/1
TCU	120/1
Nebraska......MISS BO YET? YSU WENT TO THE 1-AA NC YEAR 2	150/1
South Carolina	175/1
Iowa State	225/1
North Carolina State	225/1
Utah	225/1
Wake Forest	225/1
Central Florida	300/1
Iowa.......THESE NEXT FOUR LUMPED TOGETHER ?	300/1
Purdue...... ?	300/1
Louisville	350/1
Minnesota...... ?	350/1
Northwestern....... ?	350/1
Syracuse	350/1
Washington State	350/1
Colorado	500/1
Ole Miss	500/1
Arizona State	600/1
Arkansas	600/1
Boston College	600/1
Duke	600/1
Georgia Tech	600/1
Houston	600/1
Indiana......ANOTHER CELLAR DWELLER.....AGAIN THE HC !	600/1
Kentucky	600/1
Maryland.......NEARLY AS BAD AS RUTGERS....	600/1
Memphis	600/1
North Carolina	600/1
Pittsburgh	600/1
South Florida	600/1
Tennessee	600/1
Texas Tech	600/1
Vanderbilt	600/1
Virginia	600/1
Florida Atlantic	750/1
BYU	1200/1
Baylor	1200/1
California	1200/1
Colorado State	1200/1
Fresno State	1200/1
Illinois.....WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ILLINI?  ( THE HC! )...	1200/1
Kansas	1200/1
Oregon State	1200/1
Rutgers.....OMG WAS THIS A LOUSY BIG TEN ADDITION. ....	1200/1
San Diego State	1200/1
Appalachian State	9999/1
Nevada	9999/1
UNLV	9999/1

 

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[MLD Woody]

Were those odds before or after Shae was made eligible?

[mjp28]

5 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Were those odds before or after Shae was made eligible?

I just pulled that up this Saturday morning, those numbers do move quite often as necessary.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/futures/

[The Gipper]

On 5/12/2018 at 11:37 AM, MLD Woody said:

Gip, you can keep saying you're about facts, that doesn't make it true. Any unbiased person can see that. You've proven that time and time again whenever OSU or Michigan is involved. 

Home Field Advantage is obviously relevant in college football. What are you talking about?

Plus, we play MSU and OSU on the road, so what are you even talking about? Plus ND on the road. 

Unbiased?  You expect me to be unbiased about OSU/Michigan?   What fuyucking planet have you been living on?   Hello...McFly...is anybody home?

Besides....I agreed with you that the FMU schedule was brutal.   WTF was it about that that you did not understand.

Nevertheless.....It is a FACT that    FMU plays only one P5 non conf. game...OSU plays 2.  It is also a FACT that you DO have those tough games vs.  Wisconsin and Penn State at home.   OSU has to play Penn St. on the road...and they too have to play  Mich. St. on the road.

As I said....the ONLY factor that I can see that gives FMU a more "brutal" schedule than OSU is that Wisconsin game. (if you count the game vs. each other as a wash....though playing OSU on the road is another factor.)

Your problem....apparently...is that you just cannot handle someone agreeing with you.  Mich. does have a brutal schedule, for sure.

So what do you think, with that brutal schedule:   7-5?  6-6?

 

[gumby73]

On 5/10/2018 at 12:48 PM, Canton Dawg said:

I think LSU would be a better fit.

Why not Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley? Sooners better Qb Kyler Murray is playing baseball & looking more like MLBaseball. Riley and Sooners still have talent & with Burrow it would close the gap with Bama at #1. Burrow may even play Michigan or Buckeyes in major bowl at Homa..  

[Canton Dawg]

13 hours ago, gumby73 said:

Why not Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley? Sooners better Qb Kyler Murray is playing baseball & looking more like MLBaseball. Riley and Sooners still have talent & with Burrow it would close the gap with Bama at #1. Burrow may even play Michigan or Buckeyes in major bowl at Homa..  

I think he would be a great fit the Sooners, but I haven't heard any rumors about Joe going to Norman.

No matter where Burrow goes, the Buckeye's AD must sign off on the transfer.

That will probably put the nix on the Nebraska rumor (since Joe has family working for the Cornhuskers) because I can't see OSU letting him go to another Big 10 team.

[gumby73]

5 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

I think he would be a great fit the Sooners, but I haven't heard any rumors about Joe going to Norman.

It' been brewing  https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Bolt/Joe-Burrow-to-Oklahoma-if-Kyler-Murray-leaves-Greg-Mcelroy-says-118095930   Kyler being a 1st round baseball pick? it'd be hard for Kyler to pass up that kind of pocket $change$.Russell Wilson was a 3rd round baseball pick.   

[Canton Dawg]

1 hour ago, gumby73 said:

It' been brewing  https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Bolt/Joe-Burrow-to-Oklahoma-if-Kyler-Murray-leaves-Greg-Mcelroy-says-118095930   Kyler being a 1st round baseball pick? it'd be hard for Kyler to pass up that kind of pocket $change$.Russell Wilson was a 3rd round baseball pick.   

I’ve heard the rumors of UC, Florida, LSU, and Nebraska but haven’t heard about Oklahoma.

I think Riley could use a QB of Burrow’s caliber...I hope he lands there.

[The Gipper]

Burrows should go play in the MAC.

[Canton Dawg]

2 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Burrows should go play in the MAC.

Joe has the talent to play in one of the P5 conferences, so if he went to the MAC it would be a step down.

Urban never felt the need to play Burrows because he didn't recruit him.

Which in hindsight, is probably better for Burrow's being developed as a QB elsewhere.

Its not like Urban Meyer is a QB whisperer...just look at JT Barrett.

[MLD Woody]

Well to be fair to Urban, whether he is or isn't, his system doesn't require it. 

It will be interesting to see if they utilize the passing game more now with Haskins at QB.

[The Gipper]

1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said:

Joe has the talent to play in one of the P5 conferences, so if he went to the MAC it would be a step down.

Urban never felt the need to play Burrows because he didn't recruit him.

Which in hindsight, is probably better for Burrow's being developed as a QB elsewhere.

Its not like Urban Meyer is a QB whisperer...just look at JT Barrett.

Sure, look at him:  one of the most successful  college QBs of all time.   As was Braxton Miller before him.    And don't forget that he had Tebow at FLA.

And that he developed Alex Smith at Utah.

So, while it may not be said that he develops a lot of QBs that end up doing well in the NFL....he has had some.    Smith:  #1 overall pick...still starting in the NFL.  Tebow....one game when he punked the Steelers...that was good enough for me out of him.  His OSU QBs?  Not designed to really move to the next level.  

He coaches QBs to win at Ohio State....not necessarily beyond that.

I mean, honestly....some of the best pro QBs ever were not necessarily the cream of the crop when it came to their college careers.  Brady....had to fight for a starting job his whole time at Mich.  Brees...went to Purdue....where they likely won nothing.  Ben R.  Good in college, likely underrecruited. 

Favre, Marino, the Mannings....Rivers, etc.   Not great success per se in College.

And, FYI,  here is the list of QBs who have won the national championships since 2000:

Josh Heupel   Okla

Ken Dorsey  Miami

Craig Krenzel  Ohio St.

Matt Mauck  LSU

Matt Leinert  USC

Vince Young  Texas

Chris Leak  Florida

Matt Flynn  LSU

Tim Tebow Florida

Greg McElroy  Alabama

Cam Newton   Auburn

AJ McCarron  Alabama

Jameis Winston  FSU

Cardale Jones OSU

Jake Coker  Ala.

DeShaun Watson   Clemson

Jalen Hurt  Ala.

Only  one single proven quality NFL starter there.  Newton.  Others, like Winston and Watson still have the book out on them.  A couple were thought to be strong pro QB candidates, but flamed out:  Young, Leinert.  One became a decent backup QB at best:  Flynn.  

So, I think I can say this with some confidence:  total success in the college game does not really translate into success in the NFL.   And vice versa....QBs have to be good....but their NFL prowess may have little with how they ...or their team, did in college.

[gumby73]

On 5/15/2018 at 7:12 PM, Canton Dawg said:

I’ve heard the rumors of UC, Florida, LSU, and Nebraska but haven’t heard about Oklahoma.

I think Riley could use a QB of Burrow’s caliber...I hope he lands there.

Joe announced going to LSU. That will move the LSU odds..Hoping Joe does well there..

[MLD Woody]

I bet he does well there. LSU is usually everything but a QB

[gumby73]

On 5/15/2018 at 5:56 PM, gumby73 said:

It' been brewing  https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Bolt/Joe-Burrow-to-Oklahoma-if-Kyler-Murray-leaves-Greg-Mcelroy-says-118095930   Kyler being a 1st round baseball pick? it'd be hard for Kyler to pass up that kind of pocket $change$.Russell Wilson was a 3rd round baseball pick.   

Lincoln Riley's QB Kyler Murray to replace Baker Mayfield just went 9th overall to Oakland in MLB draft..Baker still thinks Kyler would break his school records if plays Oklahoma football. Thats a big "if" for Lincoln & Baker now