darren15 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Mary Kay CabotVerified account @MaryKayCabot 47m47 minutes ago More Updated: Former Bills CB E.J. Gaines is close to signing with the #Browns. Visiting today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 EJ Gaines was drafted by Rams 6th round #188 in 2014. Was drafted when Gregg Williams was at Rams.In 2014, 73 tackles 2 picks.Gaines was out with foot Lisfranc injury in 2015. But played Ok in 2016 & 17 getting 57 tackles with 1 pick on average/year. Welcome Aboard The Goodship Dorsey EJ!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 I'm in! Dig this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Jamar Taylor will be going then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Here's some info on how Bills defense was when Gaines was in the game versus not, take it for what its worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Healthy thru college (Mizzou), but missed 5 games each of past two years. Short 5'09... slightly long wingspan... only a 31.5" vert...OK speed 4.51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns1216 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 nowhere to go but up, right? glad to see some attention being paid to the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Healthy thru college (Mizzou), but missed 5 games each of past two years. Short 5'09... slightly long wingspan... only a 31.5" vert...OK speed 4.51. PFF ranked him as the 13th best corner in the league either you have a nose for the ball or you don't and seems to have it maybe this will shut up all the winners about trading McCourtney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Healthy thru college (Mizzou), but missed 5 games each of past two years. Short 5'09... slightly long wingspan... only a 31.5" vert...OK speed 4.51. I like how you say "only" 31" vertical yours is what? Yeah, 40+" is good, but that doesn't necessarily translate to NFL success. https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/what-are-the-highest-vertical-jumps-in-nfl-scouting-combine-history.html/?a=viewall nfl.com has him listed an inch taller 5' 10", and depending on who you want to believe 185 or 195. Played for Williams on the Rams, so Greg knows what he's getting... http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/browns_sign_cb_ej_gaines_reuni.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, syd said: PFF ranked him as the 13th best corner in the league either you have a nose for the ball or you don't and seems to have it maybe this will shut up all the winners about trading McCourtney So if he's available he's good... got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, hoorta said: nfl.com has him listed an inch taller 5' 10", and depending on who you want to believe 185 or 195. Mine were DraftScout numbers from his ProDay... but I cheated him out of 1/2"... measured at 5'09.5... and 190#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: So if he's available he's good... got it. even with missed games still a huge upgrade over McCourtney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Deal done.... John Kosko @PFF_JohnKosko 24m24 minutes ago More John Kosko Retweeted Andy Ross Gaines 13th best CB in NFL last year. Good signing by the Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, syd said: even with missed games still a huge upgrade over McCourtney Huge? Here's their production over the past two seasons... McC: 28 games; 3 INT; 26 Passes Defended; 2 Forced Fumbles; 113 tackles; 19 assists EJG: 22 games; 1 INT; 16 Passes Defended; 4 Forced Fumbles; 95 tackles; 20 assists I get younger option, but what am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Huge? Here's their production over the past two seasons... McC: 28 games; 3 INT; 26 Passes Defended; 2 Forced Fumbles; 113 tackles; 19 assists EJG: 22 games; 1 INT; 16 Passes Defended; 4 Forced Fumbles; 95 tackles; 20 assists I get younger option, but what am I missing? Tour, you just don't see that the guy is a real leader. I would say a "real football player". Fiery. A real winner. And other stuff that can't be measured and/or related to football in anyway. All joking aside, I hope Gaines plays well and can stay on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, LogicIsForSquares said: Tour, you just don't see that the guy is a real leader. I would say a "real football player". Fiery. A real winner. And other stuff that can't be measured and/or related to football in anyway. All joking aside, I hope Gaines plays well and can stay on the field. If he stays on the field the gains will be ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Bottom Line: since they dumped McCourty.....Browns needed a guy. Seems like he fits as well as anyone. May be another indication that they may not be going DB with that 4th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Dissenting opinion... Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season. 11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Tour2ma said: Dissenting opinion... Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season. 11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018 Well then, maybe, hopefully they DO still have some DBs in mind for early in the draft. If they don't take one at 4, I think they have to get one or two in rounds 2-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: Dissenting opinion... Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season. 11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018 so this dude has never coached at any level let alone being a scout for a NFL team and u put this crap out there like i am going to take his word over what Dorsey has planned ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Pff grades are rather good... Soft tissue injuries frequently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, jcam222 said: so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so. NoNo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, jcam222 said: so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so. We've added pieces all over the team, we really don't have any holes right now. We could go and play tomorrow if we had to. We've set ourselves up to take what the draft is going to give us, BPA all the way- it's what successful teams do. I see it as it should be, you fill your holes in FA and take the best players and make yourself better through the draft/development process. Going into FA, our biggest needs were QB, CB/S, RB, WR, OL. We've solidly addressed all of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Dissenting opinion... Ian WhartonVerified account @NFLFilmStudy McCourty to Carrie is a massive drop (Carrie's not even a qualified outside CB), and Gaines to Taylor is a wash (plus Gaines struggles to stay healthy). Safeties are wholly unproven. They may have gotten worse this off-season. 11:52 AM - 23 Mar 2018 Considering the Browns had like for corners dressed for games last year I can see how this is a down grade, we dont even know how good....or bad Howard Wilson is yet. I think the Browns are better in the secondary. We have a free safety who can cover for sure, thats an upgrade. We definitely have more depth and quality depth. We will see how it works out but I suspect our nickel and dime packages are a lot better already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Are we around half way now when it comes to teams with the most cap space ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Gaines deal is 1 year $5m with $4m guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, PoeticG said: We've added pieces all over the team, we really don't have any holes right now. We could go and play tomorrow if we had to. We've set ourselves up to take what the draft is going to give us, BPA all the way- it's what successful teams do. I see it as it should be, you fill your holes in FA and take the best players and make yourself better through the draft/development process. Going into FA, our biggest needs were QB, CB/S, RB, WR, OL. We've solidly addressed all of these. Well since RB isn't a need anymore, no reason to draft your boy 😂 JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 5 hours ago, jcam222 said: so do we think enough attention has been paid to our secondary that its an unlikely position to be drafted in rounds 1 or 2? I am starting to think so. I still thinking Ward... Yes, we've made moves, but where is the shutdown corner? As Runyon pointed out we still have to see what Howard Wilson can bring, but someone has to push Carrie back to slot duty. And Safety is a real unknown... times two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Tour2ma said: I still thinking Ward... Yes, we've made moves, but where is the shutdown corner? As Runyon pointed out we still have to see what Howard Wilson can bring, but someone has to push Carrie back to slot duty. And Safety is a real unknown... times two. I'm with you. This unit doesn't make me excited to watch it next play season. It was awful last year, so almost any change could have made it better. But there have been so many moves that now I'm wondering if we'll aim for secondary in 1st or 2nd round. The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced we'll go QB-Chubb and then RB with #33 (or earlier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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