Westside Steve Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: You know, I was going to make a comment on how you'd brush this aside, but I figured you'd rear your head anyway with some links and a comment. Thanks for not disappointing. It's about branding my man. Right or wrong people will rally against Allen because of something like this. The "N" word people could probably look past. But he directly said "Why are you so white ? — If it ain't white, it ain't right! " Joke or not, that stings. But of course the admonition why are you so white didn't cause you to Blink an eye. Understood. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: Not that I brushed it aside, jrb, but do you want to post how he probably dirtied his diaper when he was 2 months old, too? It was said to him, "why are you so white"...and he made a stupid joke in return. same thing with the n-word. Context - it was wrong, but still, context. After all your excusing Mayfield's antics, you go back to high school for Allen. I'm not surprised. Haters gonna hate. The world and media doesn't care about context. The media can the rest of the kids life mark him as saying "if it aint white, it aint right". That simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: But of course the admonition why are you so white didn't cause you to Blink an eye. Understood. WSS It doesn't. You can cry into your beer about it, but it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 When the Paul Revere of the Josh Allen patriots was announcing "The Rosens are coming - the Rosens are coming" - someone made it okay to hold comments Rosen made way back in high school against him. That being the case, did you know that in between altar boy sessions on Sundays - Josh Allen was firing off racial slurs in social media? The NFL channel is reporting this today. Someone's got some splainin to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: I'm not surprised. Haters gonna hate. You're a grown butt man using this phrase. Let that sink in for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: It doesn't. You can cry into your beer about it, but it doesn't. Me? I don't care about either one. Somebody who really cares about one or the other is looking for reasons to be outraged. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day? NE or Pitt? Somebody wants him to drop to them-----bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said: Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day? NE or Pitt? The agents for Rosen Mayfield or Darnold? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: The world and media doesn't care about context. The media can the rest of the kids life mark him as saying "if it aint white, it aint right". That simple. Context is an excuse for Allen but isn't for Rosen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said: Context is an excuse for Allen but isn't for Rosen? Yes, yes it is. I don't have a dog in the fight here but looking at the issue from the top it just is. EDIT: Well to be fair, my dog in the fight is that Allen is going to suck in the NFL but that's based on his body of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: You're a grown butt man using this phrase. Let that sink in for a moment. he was not a grown man, dammit. He was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. That's about 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 44 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: Not that I brushed it aside, jrb, but do you want to post how he probably dirtied his diaper when he was 2 months old, too? It was said to him, "why are you so white"...and he made a stupid joke in return. same thing with the n-word. Context - it was wrong, but still, context. After all your excusing Mayfield's antics, you go back to high school for Allen. I'm not surprised. Haters gonna hate. MFAO! Says the SAME guy that was all over anything and everything Josh Rosen said when he was 17 years old. While the pot continues to call the kettle black - Josh Allen can only wish he used the word black in lieu of the hateful description he preferred. But as you said, haters are gonna hate and Allen did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: he was not a grown man, dammit. He was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. That's about 2011. I meant YOU... saying "haters gonna hate". What are you, 16?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 The media needed SOMETHING different to say. The kid was fifteen. Nate Burleson, on the NFL channel just this morning, had a similar take - it doesn't define who you are now, but kids need to know that if, somehow, they "know" they are going to be a pro player - that scouts, etc, are going to look at their history all the way back through grade school maybe. All this not caring about Rosen's lack of intangibles, just caring about "pocket passer"... and now this from 2011? five/six years ago? about one minute's worth of counter-jousting on social media? Burleson said teams will KNOW who the guy is with his entire career so far - they've done their homework. It was about a minute of stupid crap both ways on social media. It's bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I meant YOU... saying "haters gonna hate". What are you, 16?!?! I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, calfoxwc said: I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. Damn, I wish I was 16 again. I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 So "documented racial slurs at 15" = "perceived lack of intangibles"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, tiamat63 said: Damn, I wish I was 16 again. I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat. Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again... Wait! I'll take Nixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again... Wait! I'll take Nixon. For me that would mean Dubya, Friday night football after pizza, and Half Life 2. 2004 > 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 and for me it would mean getting to watch The Breakfast Club for the first time again....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, D Bone said: and for me it would mean getting to watch The Breakfast Club for the first time again....... "SMOKE UP JOHNNY".... Shmuckin' A. Love that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again... Wait! I'll take Nixon. 16? For me....it would be LBJ. It also meant the assassinations of MLK and RFK. And race riots. And Vietnam War. but also...great music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Damn, I wish I was 16 again. I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat. 1980 for Me. The Kardiac Kids, A Cleveland Browns Christmas, my first car, my first date (funny how that works) ... send me back to 16 with this knowledge and a sideline spot next to Sam Rutigliano ... "Anything but Red Right 88, Sam, Anything!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'd do 1960 all over again and con Gail into going skinny dipping down that Venezuelan beach with the clear water coral reef. That could have changed my entire definition of snorkeling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Meanwhile back at the thread... Sorry, cal... your #1 Allen-ally has left you at the altar.... Mel Kiper Jr.Verified account @MelKiperESPN My final Mock Draft for the Class of 2018. And there's a change at No. 1 ... 7:53 AM - 26 Apr 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day? NE or Pitt? Somebody wants him to drop to them-----bet on it. If it keeps his assss out of here - Cleveland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Meanwhile back at the thread... Sorry, cal... your #1 Allen-ally has left you at the alter.... Mel Kiper Jr.Verified account @MelKiperESPN My final Mock Draft for the Class of 2018. And there's a change at No. 1 ... 7:53 AM - 26 Apr 2018 Kiper switch so he could be "right" once he got inside information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Man.. I swear I corrected the spelling of "altar"... 34 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Kiper switch so he could be "right" once he got inside information? Seemingly... There's a huge move to "hearing it's Mayfield" happening on reddit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Well, Tour, I'm glad you finally love you some Kiper. lol Mayfield does take care of the ball better than Darnold, fewer bad throws than Allen... I just don't know if Mayfield can let go of the controversy and drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: I just don't know if Mayfield can let go of the controversy and drama. That doesn't bother me. I think he'll be fine in that aspect, just fiery on the field. I wish for a little more height. If he was 6'3 I might like him more than Darnold. In the end, what is 2 inches? Boo Fagley? Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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