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16 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Carrie's billed as a slot-corner. He'll be competing with $630k bargain-guy, BBC.

Would that not be Terrance Mitchell from KC battling BBC at slot corner? Am picturing EJ Gaines getting 1WR"s (ranked as 14th CB by PFF) Taylor/Carrie/Wilson battling for covering #2WR's..I see Dorsey found his talent-less position group.Heck, he may even draft another DB..Now maybe we can play some press nickel coverage that G. Williams played at Rams?  https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/3/29/17177614/espn-power-rankings-the-browns-arent-in-last-place  

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5 hours ago, gumby73 said:

Would that not be Terrance Mitchell from KC battling BBC at slot corner?

Maybe... what I've read is that OAK kept moving EJ back and forth from slot to outside... and were never really happy with him at either, but that slot was where he played the most.

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Sep 11, 2017 - With rookie cornerback Gareon Conley inactive for the game, the Raiders opted to put TJ Carrie on the outside and start Sean Smith in the slot. But, after Carrie's early struggles, the coaching staff flipped it and put him in the slot.

Jan 23, 2018 - The Oakland Raiders had a cornerback crisis this season with injuries and disappointing play, and T.J. Carrie's struggles in the slot contributed.

 

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Well, I for one, am excited to add Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward to this depth chart.

Mayfield, was my rising second choice at his position ... but I've forgotten about those other guys already, all in on Baker. Ward fills a huge need. I wouldn't have passed on Chubb, but I don't get paid to make those decisions, and our defense looks stronger already with that pick. Needed a big-time corner.

Again, just a pre-2nd Round skeleton to see where our needs are, I didn't include minor players, most of whom won't make the team. The guys looking to see major playing time ... if the season started tomorrrow ... are in bold, And I'm not assigning jobs like slot receiver, nickel back, specialty pass rusher etc. yet.

QB: Taylor, Mayfield, Stanton

FB Vitale

RB Hyde, Duke,  Dayes

WR1 Gordon, Ricardo

WR2 Landry, Coleman, Higgins

TE1 Njoku, Devalve

TE2  Fells, Tefler

LT Coleman, Rod Johnson

LG Bitonio, Drango

C Tretter, Reiter

RG Zeitler

RT HubbardStephenson

 

DE Garrett, C. Smith, Orchard

DT Coley, Brantley

DT Ogunjobi, Meder

DE Ogbah, Nassib

SLB Collins, Burgess

MLB Schobert, Carder

WLB Kirksey, Alexander

CB WardGaines, Jordan, Wilson

CB Carrie, Taylor, Boddy-Calhoun, Mitchell

SS Peppers, Kindred

FS Randall,  Currie

 

K Gonzalez

P Colquitt

LS Hughlett

KR Dayes

PR Peppers

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    So, our Day 2 Needs:

    QB: No

    FB: bring in a UDFA

    RB: YES Need a speed guy, Duke is a pending free agent

    WR YES Even if Coleman prospers in Year three, there is not much after that and may need to replace Gordon at some point.

    TE Nah, I think we are OK here, but I may like Devalve a second pass catching option better than most.

    OT YES We don't know if Coleman is the answer at LT so the more competition the better

    OG-C Nah, but maybe pick up some interior depth on Day three

    DT Yes, I like our guys, but bring in another Big Body

    DE Yes, depth looks weak after starters

    LB Yes, depth needed

    CB No, lots of bodies already that are better than mid-round picks

    S No, if we are all in on Randall and Peppers this could be a day 3 special teams need.

    My Summary of our reamaining needs:

    1. OT

    2 & 3. RB & WR

    4 & 5 DT & DE

    6. LB

    7&8 IL & S

    So if we are drafting needs, our three picks in the second round would be:

    OT ... Offensive Playmaker ... DL

    Go get 'em ...

    Zombo

     

     

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    Based on your depth chart Z, I would put the Browns biggest needs now in this order:

    OLB.  We have 2 MLBs playing out of position....and not much behind them

    OT.....yes, we don't know if Coleman/Johnson are the answer to replace JT

    RB...to further enhance Dorsey's RB by committee system

    WR...We might have some talent here....Gordon/Landry/Coleman etc.   But then....Gordon always on thin ice.  Coleman brittle and questionable. Higgins/Louis...still meh

    DT....can't hurt to have more depth after they shipped out Shelton.

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    Browns are shopping Jamar Taylor and Randall Telfer .....

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    18 minutes ago, darren15 said:

    Browns are shopping Jamar Taylor and Randall Telfer .....

    I said elsewhere....do not be surprised if they take another CB here in round 2.  Then Taylor will definitely be left out when the cards are dealt.

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    16 minutes ago, darren15 said:

    Browns are shopping Jamar Taylor and Randall Telfer .....

    squeezing lemons here..we got Jamar in 7th round trade when Mia.did not want to pay him. We flipped 7th round picks giving 223 falling to 250..Telfer, not a surprise after adding Fells. maybe try selling him to Dallas?  

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    11 hours ago, Zombo said:

     

    So if we are drafting needs, our three picks in the second round would be:

    OT ... Offensive Playmaker ... DL

    Go get 'em ...

    Zombo

     

     

    You're welcome.

    Z

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    1 minute ago, Zombo said:

    You're welcome.

    Z

    Yep Yep Yep congratulations their sportYep Yep Yep congratulations their sportexcept I'm not sure the Corbett is an offense of tackle I think he is more of an inside guard center 

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    Not sure what the ultimate plan is with Corbett, but I will put him in the mix at LT and adjust later. I'm going to keep Hyde as the starter at RB for now, we'll see how that develops, and will stick the DE Thomas right into the rotation.

    I think now more than ever we can label Duke Johnson 3rd Down Back/receiving back

    Again, just a pre-3rd Round skeleton to see where our needs are, I didn't include minor players, most of whom won't make the team. The guys looking to see major playing time ... if the season started tomorrrow ... are in bold, And I'm not assigning jobs like slot receiver, nickel back, specialty pass rusher etc. yet.

    QB: Taylor, Mayfield, Stanton

    FB Vitale

    RB Hyde, ChubbDuke,  

    WR1 Gordon, Ricardo, Janis

    WR2 Landry, Coleman, Higgins

    TE1 Njoku, Devalve

    TE2  Fells, Tefler

    LT Coleman, Corbett

    LG Bitonio, Drango

    C Tretter, Reiter

    RG Zeitler

    RT HubbardStephenson

     

    DE Garrett, C. Smith, Orchard

    DT Coley, Brantley

    DT Ogunjobi, Meder

    DE Ogbah,  C. Thomas, Nassib

    SLB Collins, Burgess

    MLB Schobert, Carder

    WLB Kirksey, Alexander

    CB WardGaines, Jordan, Wilson

    CB Carrie, Taylor, Boddy-Calhoun, Mitchell

    SS Peppers, Kindred

    FS Randall,  Nacua

     

    K Gonzalez

    P Colquitt

    LS Hughlett

    KR Dayes

    PR Peppers

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    So, my Needs Update ... and the Browns have been picking needs all along so far:

    1. WR Depth

    2. DT Depth

    3. LB Depth

    4 Safety/special teams.

    We have five picks left, I'd say adressing WR, DT and LB is pretty certain, then I'll say Safety and maybe a fullback.

    Maybe two linebackers.

    Zombo

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    I'm hoping for Simmie Cobbs Jr. or EQ St. Brown for WR

    Dimitri Flowers for FB

    Kentavious Street for DT

    Daniel Carlson to compete with Gonzo.

    Hill the CB/S still available? 

     

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    2 hours ago, Zombo said:

    So, my Needs Update ... and the Browns have been picking needs all along so far:

    1. WR Depth

    2. DT Depth

    3. LB Depth

    4 Safety/special teams.

    We have five picks left, I'd say adressing WR, DT and LB is pretty certain, then I'll say Safety and maybe a fullback.

    Maybe two linebackers.

    Zombo

    Number one is done with the addition of Callaway from Florida. As long as his field issues don't screw him up it is said he could have been first round talent

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    22 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

    Number one is done with the addition of Callaway from Florida. As long as his field issues don't screw him up it is said he could have been first round talent

    Yep, they are staying on target with needs.

    We can only hope they are right players, Callaway looks to be very talented.

    Z

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     I had hoped that Hearst might have fallen to us at number 150 but he went to the Raiders at number 140. For that depth at B O'Connor Ronco whatever may still be there okronkwo

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    AtEd defense of tackle maybe Tim settle of Virginia tech

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    4 hours ago, Zombo said:

    So, my Needs Update ... and the Browns have been picking needs all along so far:

    1. WR Depth

    2. DT Depth

    3. LB Depth

    4 Safety/special teams.

    We have five picks left, I'd say adressing WR, DT and LB is pretty certain, then I'll say Safety and maybe a fullback.

    Maybe two linebackers.

    Zombo

    Well they got a guy that might be a combo DE and or LB plus now they just got this inside linebacker/outside linebacker so that's seems like a lot of versatility and depth

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    OK, so here is my post-Draft depth chart, my Top 53 contenders to make the roster in Bold. Injuries and UDFA that make the team will change all that, and a couple veterans will get cut or traded,  but this is kinda where I see us now:

    QB: Taylor, Mayfield, Stanton

    FB Vitale

    RB Hyde, ChubbDuke,  

    WR1 Gordon, Callaway, Ricardo, Janis

    WR2 Landry, Coleman, Higgins, Ratley

    TE1 Njoku, Devalve

    TE2  Fells, Tefler

    LT Coleman, Corbett

    LG Bitonio, Drango

    C Tretter, Reiter

    RG Zeitler

    RT HubbardStephenson

     

    DE Garrett, C. Smith, Orchard

    DT Coley, Brantley

    DT Ogunjobi, Meder

    DE Ogbah,  C. Thomas, Nassib

    SLB Collins, Burgess

    MLB SchobertAvery, Carder

    WLB Kirksey, Alexander

    CB WardGaines, S. Thomas, Wilson, Jordan

    CB Carrie, Taylor, Boddy-Calhoun, Mitchell

    SS Peppers, Kindred

    FS Randall,  Currie

     

    K Gonzalez

    P Colquitt

    LS Hughlett

    KR Johnson

    PR Peppers

    26 O 24D 3 ST

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    Updated 5/3/18 with some recent transactions, added a couple udfa's into the mix.

    My last wo vets on the roster are Reiter and Tank ... didn't have the heart to unbold either yet.

    OK, so here is my post-Draft depth chart, my Top 53 contenders to make the roster in Bold. Injuries and UDFA that make the team will change all that, and a couple veterans will get cut or traded,  but this is kinda where I see us now:

    QB: Taylor, Mayfield, Stanton

    FB Vitale

    RB Hyde, ChubbDuke,  

    WR1 Gordon, Callaway, Ricardo, Janis

    WR2 Landry, Coleman, Higgins, Ratley

    TE Njoku, FellsDevalve

    LT Coleman, Corbett

    LG Bitonio, Drango

    C Tretter, Reiter

    RG Zeitler

    RT HubbardStephenson, Harrison

     

    DE Garrett, C. Smith, Orchard

    DT Coley, Brantley

    DT Ogunjobi, Meder, Thompson

    DE Ogbah,  C. Thomas, Nassib

    SLB Collins, Burgess, Grace

    MLB Schobert Avery, Carder

    WLB Kirksey, Nicolas, Alexander, 

    CB WardGaines, S. Thomas, Wilson, Jordan

    CB Carrie, Taylor, Boddy-Calhoun, Mitchell

    SS Peppers, Kindred

    FS Randall,  Currie

     

    K Gonzalez

    P Colquitt

    LS Hughlett

    KR Johnson

    PR Peppers

    26 O 24D 3 ST

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    Mayfield is 3rd string.

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    I'm not sure Louis will make this team. Drops too many. And Wilson is an unknown quantity. Any updates on injury status?

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    48 minutes ago, Orion said:

    Mayfield is 3rd string.

    I'm projecting to opening weekend. He won't be.

    Zombo

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    29 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

    I'm not sure Louis will make this team. Drops too many. And Wilson is an unknown quantity. Any updates on injury status?

    Wilson is getting buried in a numbers game at corner. Louis working with Taylor and Landry in the offseason, so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.

    Zombo

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    Finally a competitive looking roster on both sides of the ball - on paper at least...... Getting harder to hide my optimism. 

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    1 minute ago, D Bone said:

    Finally a competitive looking roster on both sides of the ball - on paper at least...... Getting harder to hide my optimism. 

    How'd ya like the Process now? 

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    I think, for now Corbett may be slated in as the backup OG at both RG and LG....and Harrison the backup at OT.

    Though....don't we still have Rod Johnson here.  Don't count him out.

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    48 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

    I think, for now Corbett may be slated in as the backup OG at both RG and LG....and Harrison the backup at OT.

    Though....don't we still have Rod Johnson here.  Don't count him out.

    Ya, we'll see where Corbett lands ... he is probably curtains for Reiter, a backup sole center seems like a luxury. 

    As for Rod Johnson, if he gets squeezed out in a numbers game there is always an opening in the porn industry.

    Z

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    Agree... see Reiter pushed out. Especially if we see a developmental LT we want to keep.

    Meder still feels gone to me with Thomas inside. Odd to see last season's, "destined to start" MLB, Carder, sitting at third in the depth chart. Something gives there and that could be that Avery moves outside.

    Still can't get over how thin we look at FS after all the attention our play there last season drew...

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    4 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

    Agree... see Reiter pushed out. Especially if we see a developmental LT we want to keep.

    Meder still feels gone to me with Thomas inside. Odd to see last season's, "destined to start" MLB, Carder, sitting at third in the depth chart. Something gives there and that could be that Avery moves outside.

    Still can't get over how thin we look at FS after all the attention our play there last season drew...

    Agree at DT, love Meder's motor but this prospect sounds pretty good.

    I heard Dorsey say that Avery should get looks inside and out, and Hue called him a special teams gem ... His versatility actually could mean the end for Alexander and Tank could hang on because of his special teams prowess as well. Schobert's Pro Bowl season ended any starting dreams for the Tank.

    My opinion on Safety is that we've got two starters that will be in there for almost all snaps, and Kindred is a solid backup with starting experience so they may keep an extra body at corner, I'm sure some of those guys can be cross trained at safety.

    Z

     

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