The Cysko Kid Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 You may remember Jonathan Martin, who whined about being bullied by Richie Incognito. Well he's been arrested for making threats to shoot up his old high school and the Miami dolphins. Maybe incognito wasn't the problem after all. From his Instagram: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 That's pretty Shmucked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Someone needs to start teaching these kids to stand up for themselves and fight. Win or lose the bullying will stop. I'm sure none of these shooters had any respect for themselves in their hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I'm surprised by the lack of comments on this. It really shows the fragility of these kids' psyche where being called a pussy is enough to justify murder in their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, The Cysko Kid said: I'm surprised by the lack of comments on this. It really shows the fragility of these kids' psyche where being called a pussy is enough to justify murder in their minds. I think you're painting with a very wide vrysg right there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Really, do you? How many of these mass shooters has bullying been mentioned as a factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I guess this back and forth will be determined by who you meant to include when you said "their minds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 18 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: Someone needs to start teaching these kids to stand up for themselves and fight. Win or lose the bullying will stop. I'm sure none of these shooters had any respect for themselves in their hearts. Why should school age kids have to fight bullies? This is so &#$*ed up. School should be a place for learning and not one where a 15 year old needs to assault a 18 year old to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, BaconHound said: Why should school age kids have to fight bullies? This is so &#$*ed up. School should be a place for learning and not one where a 15 year old needs to assault a 18 year old to do it. Of course, this is true. The sad part is, there have always been maladjusted kids who bully others, because they are bigger, whatever. Like the story I posted about the kid who had had cerebral palsy - being bullied by two football players. If I hadn't come along, know one would ever have known, couldn't have been proven. That's the part when you fight back. The part where the two scums were suspended is the other part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 hours ago, BaconHound said: Why should school age kids have to fight bullies? This is so &#$*ed up. School should be a place for learning and not one where a 15 year old needs to assault a 18 year old to do it. Spoken truly like someone that never stuck up for himself. Yes it would be nice if the world was utopia but it isn't, it never has been, and it never will be. Either you can fight for yourself or be a Jonathon Martin. A self admitted coward with no self esteem that still dwells so much on how he never did that he just got arrested as a grown man for threatening to shoot up his old high school where the bullies who once picked on him are not at anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: Spoken truly like someone that never stuck up for himself. Yes it would be nice if the world was utopia but it isn't, it never has been, and it never will be. Either you can fight for yourself or be a Jonathon Martin. A self admitted coward with no self esteem that still dwells so much on how he never did that he just got arrested as a grown man for threatening to shoot up his old high school where the bullies who once picked on him are not at anymore. Which is clearly what happens to anyone that doesn't fist fight someone that picks on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 59 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Which is clearly what happens to anyone that doesn't fist fight someone that picks on them. Not everyone but I'd bet a dollar that every mass shooter that was bullied didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: Not everyone but I'd bet a dollar that every mass shooter that was bullied didn't So fight people in school because you think mass shooters, the small number that they are, didn't? The underlying issue is probably something else here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: Spoken truly like someone that never stuck up for himself. Yes it would be nice if the world was utopia but it isn't, it never has been, and it never will be. Either you can fight for yourself or be a Jonathon Martin. A self admitted coward with no self esteem that still dwells so much on how he never did that he just got arrested as a grown man for threatening to shoot up his old high school where the bullies who once picked on him are not at anymore. Also true - human nature is that way - some people are bad screwed up people and they take it out on others. It just happens, and it's all too often just you. FACT: sometimes, you just can't walk away, there isn't anyone there to help you, so you just fight back, and make it so they never, ever try to pay that price again. They don't bully anymore. One day, in the fifth grade, we moved from the suburbs to way, way out in the country in deep S. Ohio. I had never heard of 4H before. I'm new in this little country school, and the first week, the kids elected me treasurer of the class (I got the good guys vote and most of the girls vote). Well, not too long after that, there were two big redneck really stupid looking stupid kids in our class, and they decided they were bored roughing up other kids, I was new. So, they grabbed me in the hallway, knocked the books out of my hand, and shoved me down. I didn't know who they were. I got back up and was ready to fight em, but.....a teacher ran out of her classroom. A few of my friends told me everybody was afraid of them - they were really stupid, and crazier than crazy. The going rumor was that they should be sophomores in school, but they kept failing. Teacher yells at them, okay. They got in trouble. Fast forward to the little county fair. Everybody was there, it was at the school grounds, we were walking with my parent's close friends, and their son David was a best friend of mine...and I went back to the car to get my Mom's purse. And, those two hoodlums followed me without me realizing it. No lights out there. It's dark. I get near our car, and they came after me, kickin, punchin, stompin, yellin and laughin. Well, I think that's the first time I learned that an elbow can be a dangerous weapon, and I used it. The one brother -they were brothers- was screaming in pain, holding his arm layin on the ground next to us, and the other goes "you (*&^(*&^ what did you do to my brother?" and charged in swinging and kickin at me. I fall into the car next to us, swinging back, landing a few, and he charged at me again, and I grabbed the radio antenna, drew it back, and let it fly. It hit him right in the face, and in his right eye. He's screaming in pain, and before I can get away, four adults get out of their car, they were looking for a parking spot, and came running up, and the two idiots took off into the darkness. They park, and escorted me back up to the fair. With the purse, I am that stubborn. They tracked down the local sheriff, and he walked with me til we found my parents. He said he knew who those two were, and something had to be done. He turned to my parents and said I caught a few, but from what the folks said, they got the worst end of it. Those two hoodlums never came back to school. He guessed who they were before he asked me. But, word got around - two of the pretty girls in my class - their parents were one set of the parents who came to my rescue. I never got bullied again there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 23 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: Spoken truly like someone that never stuck up for himself. Yes it would be nice if the world was utopia but it isn't, it never has been, and it never will be. Either you can fight for yourself or be a Jonathon Martin. A self admitted coward with no self esteem that still dwells so much on how he never did that he just got arrested as a grown man for threatening to shoot up his old high school where the bullies who once picked on him are not at anymore. Unfortunately I was the bully, never physical, but verbal. I was, and many would say still am, a douchebag. Classic middle class athlete growing up in a blue collar town. But my shortcomings as a human being doesn't mean we should normalize bad behavior. Yeah if someone I picked on in High School came up and punched me, things would have been different but they would have been different if my peers would have called me on my nonsense, if an adult cared or if a person like myself connected with a younger me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 3 hours ago, BaconHound said: Unfortunately I was the bully, never physical, but verbal. I was, and many would say still am, a douchebag. Classic middle class athlete growing up in a blue collar town. But my shortcomings as a human being doesn't mean we should normalize bad behavior. Yeah if someone I picked on in High School came up and punched me, things would have been different but they would have been different if my peers would have called me on my nonsense, if an adult cared or if a person like myself connected with a younger me. That and a larger prefrontal cortex would have helped. Sure we must guide children to be better, but underdeveloped portions of their brains will cause them to seek out a simplistic solution to complex problems. So no, children don't deserve anything, but it quite literally is part of growing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 21 hours ago, BaconHound said: Unfortunately I was the bully, never physical, but verbal. I was, and many would say still am, a douchebag. Classic middle class athlete growing up in a blue collar town. But my shortcomings as a human being doesn't mean we should normalize bad behavior. Yeah if someone I picked on in High School came up and punched me, things would have been different but they would have been different if my peers would have called me on my nonsense, if an adult cared or if a person like myself connected with a younger me. And they would have self respect that they didn't get if the principal stepped in to stop it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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