Westside Steve Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Yep, it must be hard keeping all of the political agendas and conspiracy theories straight... Every politician and political activist that wants to get rid of weapons in the United States , incrementally of course , pretends to be in favor of the Second Amendment. And really it's not very hard. One just needs to be more astute than then people like you. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Exactly. Except most on the grandstanding left don't care about solutions and don't care about cause. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 the left is sicker and more dangerous than most of us think. they will do just about? anything to get a hold of our country, and not let go. Big serious trouble is everywhere now. PS: It's going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Every politician and political activist that wants to get rid of weapons in the United States , incrementally of course , pretends to be in favor of the Second Amendment. And really it's not very hard. One just needs to be more astute than then people like you. WSS 8 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Exactly. Except most on the grandstanding left don't care about solutions and don't care about cause. WSS It's easy to talk about solutions when one, stricter gun laws, is off the table and un-American. I think most rational people believe that violence, absent firearms, is a complex issue with many facets and gun violence is no different. The problem is the chasm between "love it or leave it" and "guns are bad mmmkay" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, BaconHound said: It's easy to talk about solutions when one, stricter gun laws, is off the table and un-American. I think most rational people believe that violence, absent firearms, is a complex issue with many facets and gun violence is no different. The problem is the chasm between "love it or leave it" and "guns are bad mmmkay" Oh no it is most certainly on the table. Outside of a Draconian ban and stiff uncontested sentences not even the tiniest change will happen. Anything less and you guys in the left or just jerking your selves off. You guys just want to pretend that it's the hardware that causes the problem. Because it's too hard and you lose too many votes if you tell people they are fuked up. The left doesn't care about a solution they want the issue. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Every politician and political activist that wants to get rid of weapons in the United States , incrementally of course , pretends to be in favor of the Second Amendment. And really it's not very hard. One just needs to be more astute than then people like you. WSS Oh geez, Shmuck off. He's a crisis actor! He wants to get rid of guns! *says pro 2nd amendment thing* .... uh well, of course he said that! They all do! Same ridiculous Sheet we hear from the very politically skewed on here. Same thing we've been hearing from you over the past year+ as you've drifted more that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: That's a great, unsourced group of data there. Especially considering, oh idk, the whole thing about abortion not being murder to a good number of people.... and only idiots think you can be "healthy at every size". Fat people are a burden on our healthcare system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 and with all of the claims on here about liberals manipulating these kids for their political agenda, it appears we may have that going on, but for the other agenda... http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/02/27/shooting-survivors-father-admits-email-changes-in-cnn-spat/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Oh geez, Shmuck off. He's a crisis actor! He wants to get rid of guns! *says pro 2nd amendment thing* .... uh well, of course he said that! They all do! Same ridiculous Sheet we hear from the very politically skewed on here. Same thing we've been hearing from you over the past year+ as you've drifted more that way... Yes little angry Woody he is a grandstanding little plant. A tool of CNN as they are his tool in his quest to get his face on TV. Self-promotion is his goal not saving the world. Just because he gives you an erection is no reason to believe everything he says. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: That's a great, unsourced group of data there. Especially considering, oh idk, the whole thing about abortion not being murder to a good number of people.... and only idiots think you can be "healthy at every size". Fat people are a burden on our healthcare system. Good eye Woody. You picked it right off! It's a Big lie. The number one cause of death in the world is school shootings using AR-15s. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Good eye Woody. You picked it right off! It's a Big lie. The number one cause of death in the world is school shootings using AR-15s. WSS oh wow! What a generic typical steve response! Great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: and with all of the claims on here about liberals manipulating these kids for their political agenda, it appears we may have that going on, but for the other agenda... http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/02/27/shooting-survivors-father-admits-email-changes-in-cnn-spat/ "They're crisis actors! He didn't even go to that school!" ----- Yeah... he did go there "CNN is scripting questions for all of these actors. See, look at this email!" ---- Again, not actors. Also that email is doctored. The parent, the one actually trying to manipulate his own kid for a political agenda, admitted he edited it. Damage done tho. Trump's out there tweeting whatever he sees on Fox and people are eating it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article202486304.html Shooter was using 10 round mags so that the gun would fit in his duffel bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 hours ago, MLD Woody said: "They're crisis actors! He didn't even go to that school!" I never said that. I did say that he's an actor and he's setting the groundwork for his little media career with the help of CNN. And you. "CNN is scripting questions for all of these actors. See, look at this email!" ---- Again, not actors. Also that email is doctored. The parent, the one actually trying to manipulate his own kid for a political agenda, admitted he edited it. how dare you attack the grieving families?? Damage done tho. Trump's out there tweeting whatever he sees on Fox and people are eating it up. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Yes, of course I did. Attempting to use the other person's words against them, and failing in every way. Impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 https://truepundit.com/jeff-zucker-silly-criticize-cnn-left-wing-gun-control-advocates/ Yep, no biased reporting here is there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 https://truepundit.com/vermont-senate-just-unanimously-approved-proposal-allowing-police-seize-firearms/ Things are heading for a physical conflict . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, JAFBF said: https://truepundit.com/vermont-senate-just-unanimously-approved-proposal-allowing-police-seize-firearms/ Things are heading for a physical conflict . . . I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 MONTPELIER, Vt. (WCAX) The Vermont Senate has approved a bill that would allow police to take firearms and explosives from people judged to be an extreme risk to themselves or others. The Fair Haven case brought new urgency to the gun control debate and the measure had wide support from lawmakers, who approved it on a unanimous 30-0 vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: MONTPELIER, Vt. (WCAX) The Vermont Senate has approved a bill that would allow police to take firearms and explosives from people judged to be an extreme risk to themselves or others. The Fair Haven case brought new urgency to the gun control debate and the measure had wide support from lawmakers, who approved it on a unanimous 30-0 vote. Quote A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Sorry, give and inch . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Can those at an extreme risk to themselves and others be in a militia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 nope. no cowardly woodpeckers either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JAFBF Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Can those at an extreme risk to themselves and others be in a militia? It's "creep", and that's why I don't like it. they'll chip away, tiny pieces at a time years upon years . . . look at where the Country is now as compared to a few decades ago. NEVER trust the Government, that is one of the reasons we have the 2A, they knew the tendency of those in power, and we're seeing it today in spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 "Slippery Slope" is a logical fallacy for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 actually, your heroine nasty pelosi thinks otherwise: The slippery slope is very, very real - because the left MAKES it so. http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/06/nancy-pelosi-hopes-ban-bump-stocks-slippery-slope-more-gun-control Pelosi Hopes Ban on Bump Stocks Is a 'Slippery Slope' to More Gun Control https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/15/the-slippery-slope-of-gun-control-time-to-stand-on-firm-ground/#b77e9327621b The Slippery Slope Of Gun Control: Time To Stand On Firm Ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Daily Wire: BETRAYAL: Trump Says Government Should 'Take The Guns First, Go Through Due Process Second' "...take the firearms first, and then go to court. Because that’s another system, because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures, I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida. … To go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second. - Donald Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Alright those of you on the left. This isn't from Ammoland or The Blaze not even Fox News but one of the most liberal papers in America. Yes yes I know wring your hands and cry "but but but we just have to do something!" http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-stokes-assault-weapon-ban-20180301-story.html WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 7:28 PM, jbluhm86 said: Daily Wire: BETRAYAL: Trump Says Government Should 'Take The Guns First, Go Through Due Process Second' "...take the firearms first, and then go to court. Because that’s another system, because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures, I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida. … To go to court would have taken a long time. So you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second. - Donald Trump Out of context (MSM - no surprise). Here's a question for ya, is the Left now defending "Due Process" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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