Mark O Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Same pay tho? Yep.. Exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Barkley against Ohio State in 2015 - Penn State leaned on Barkley, who had missed the last two games with a foot injury. He made a difference, but his long touchdown run that could have put Penn State up 10-0 in the first quarter was wiped out by a holding call on right guard Brian Gaia. 2015 Game Log Rushing Receiving DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD 10/17 @Ohio State L 38-10 26 194 7.5 56 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Mark O said: Yep.. Exactly the same. Sweet... less responsibility... same pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 In 2016- 2016 Game Log Rushing Receiving DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD 10/22 Ohio State W 24-21 12 99 8.3 37 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, PoeticG said: In 2016- 2016 Game Log Rushing Receiving DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD 10/22 Ohio State W 24-21 12 99 8.3 37 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 Color me convinced... /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 I think that you guys tend to expect TOO MUCH from players sometimes. Take a guess at which 2 runningbacks owned these college stats? For reference here's Saquon Barkley's stats- NCAA career statistics Penn State Nittany Lions Season Team Rushing Receiving Kickoff Return Passing G Att Yds Avg Long TD Rec Yds Avg Long TD KR Yds TD Long Comp Att Yards TD 2015 Penn State 11 182 1,076 5.9 56 7 20 161 8.1 32 0 1 12 0 12 0 0 0 0 2016 Penn State 14 272 1,496 5.5 81T 18 28 402 14.4 44T 5 4 84 0 33 0 0 0 0 2017 Penn State 13 217 1,271 5.9 92T 18 54 632 11.7 85T 3 14 423 2 98T 2 2 36 1 Total 38 672 3,843 5.7 92T 43 102 1,195 11.7 85T 8 19 519 2 98T 2 2 36 1 Who owns the boxes down below? Rushing Receiving YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD NO. YDS AVG LNG TD 1979 115 477 4.3 43 6 6 35 5.8 11 0 1980 188 928 4.9 54 5 6 93 15.5 37 1 1981 255 1,428 5.6 62 19 1 2 2.0 2 0 1982 232 1,617 7.0 80 17 6 60 10.0 35 0 Totals 790 4,450 5.6 80 47 19 190 10.0 37 1 College statistics - Rushing Receiving Year Team GP Att Yards Avg TDs Rec Yards TDs 2004 Oklahoma 13 339 1,925 5.7 15 5 12 0 2005 Oklahoma 11 221 1,104 5.0 14 9 50 0 2006 Oklahoma 7 188 1,012 5.4 12 10 136 1 College Totals 31 748 4,041 5.4 41 24 198 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Cool... a game... AP and Hershall... (actually Hershall and AP)... Your turn... Who are these guys? Rushing Receiving Scrimmage Pos G Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD RB 12 78 370 4.7 2 1 14 14.0 0 79 384 4.9 2 RB 12 191 990 5.2 13 18 128 7.1 0 209 1118 5.3 13 RB 12 196 1042 5.3 8 10 68 6.8 0 206 1110 5.4 8 RB 12 253 1459 5.8 6 9 55 6.1 0 262 1514 5.8 6 Rushing Receiving Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD 664 3923 5.9 50 65 805 12.4 5 729 4728 6.5 55 FR RB 10 205 1128 5.5 17 12 95 7.9 2 217 1223 5.6 19 SO RB 13 248 1744 7.0 16 27 360 13.3 2 275 2104 7.7 18 JR RB 13 211 1051 5.0 17 26 350 13.5 1 237 1401 5.9 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 10 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: LOL! Another student of history I see. Don't tell them anything while their heads are in the sand. It worked out so well in Germany, Italy and Franco's Spain. EDIT: You can ship Nero's and my comments to the political board if you wish Mark. 10 hours ago, Mark O said: I don't have that power here anymore. I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers. Yeah- Zombo is the one with real powers, like kick bums off, suspend people, or change screen names.(Regarding the messing with names, I've told him several times I don't approve, and I think it's childish) I can only warn, delete, merge, and move. Haven't seen anything yet I'd want to move. Po means well, so let him show his over the top Barkley love here. His track record on spotting winners is sort of iffy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, PoeticG said: One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson. So you never answered, rather have Barkley or Gurley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Barkley, easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 9 hours ago, PoeticG said: Barkley, easy. Ahh, so you want someone who is unproven over a pro bowler who is still young, can do all phases, and had he not been held out of the last game, would have been league leader in rushing. That proves everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 13 hours ago, PoeticG said: One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson. Damn... I missed one. Guess my two were stumpers... They were: Butch Woolfolk - School: Michigan - Position: RB - Draft: 1st round, 18th overall of the 1982 NFL draft by the New York Giants... and Steve Slaton - School: West Virginia - Position: RB - Heisman Voting: 4th in 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 2:53 AM, PoeticG said: 2017 SPLITS ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD Season 217 1271 5.9 92 18 54 632 11.7 85 3 Home 104 664 6.4 80 10 25 431 17.2 85 3 September 86 574 6.7 80 4 27 386 14.3 85 2 Complete Splits » CAREER STATS RUSHING RECEIVING SEASON ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD 2017 217 1271 5.9 92 18 54 632 11.7 85 3 2016 272 1496 5.5 81 18 28 402 14.4 44 4 2015 182 1076 5.9 56 7 20 161 8.1 32 1 2017 Game Log Rushing Receiving DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD 9/2 Akron W 52-0 14 172 12.3 80 2 3 54 18.0 43 0 9/9 Pittsburgh W 33-14 14 88 6.3 22 1 4 45 11.3 46 1 9/16 Georgia State W 56-0 10 47 4.7 33 0 4 142 35.5 85 1 9/23 @Iowa W 21-19 28 211 7.5 44 1 12 94 7.8 15 0 9/30 Indiana W 45-14 20 56 2.8 8 0 4 51 12.8 36 0 10/7 @Northwestern W 31-7 16 75 4.7 53 2 2 9 4.5 8 0 10/21 Michigan W 42-13 15 108 7.2 69 2 3 53 17.7 42 1 10/28 @Ohio State L 39-38 21 44 2.1 36 1 4 23 5.8 10 0 11/4 @Michigan State L 27-24 14 63 4.5 36 0 3 33 11.0 20 0 11/11 Rutgers W 35-6 14 35 2.5 11 2 1 20 20.0 21 0 11/18 Nebraska W 56-44 17 158 9.3 65 3 6 66 11.0 24 0 11/25 @Maryland W 66-3 16 77 4.8 17 2 1 4 4.0 4 0 PLAYSTATION FIESTA BOWL 12/30 Washington W 35-28 18 137 7.6 92 2 7 38 5.4 12 0 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/07/northwestern-tying-down-saquon-barkley-but-penn-state-pitching-shutout/ Northwestern tying down Saquon Barkley, but Penn State pitching shutout By Kevin McGuireOct 7, 2017, 1:29 PM EST Penn State running back Saquon Barkley arrived in Evanston as the supposed Heisman Trophy favorite. Right now he’s looking to leave town just with some positive rushing yardage. Northwestern has held Barkley to negative rushing yardage (-1) so far, but Penn State has managed to take a 10-0 lead on the Nittany Lions. Northwestern failed to take advantage of a fourth down conversion on their offensive opportunity. After completing a 4th and 8 from the Penn State 34-yard line to the Penn State 10-yard line, the Wildcats immediately started moving the wrong way thanks to a holding penalty and a sack by Curtis Cothran to move the ball back to the Penn State 28-yard line. Two plays later, Clayton Thorson’s desperation ball was picked off by Amani Oruwariye. The Wildcats turned the ball over on a Thorson fumble on their next offensive possession, which also crossed midfield. Barkley has carried the football eight times and has been stuffed every time. He enters halftime with -1 rushing yards and just seven all-purpose yards with one eight-yard catch.Can Northwestern manage to dial in on Barkley like this for another two quarters? If they do, then the Northwestern offense has to start finding a way to get some point son the board and avoid letting other offensive options from hurting them when Penn State has the ball. Penn State has tended to make adjustments and play well in the second half over the last year. The only touchdown of the half came on a pass from Penn State’s starting quarterback, Trace McSorley, to Penn State’s backup quarterback, Tommy Stevens. ----------------------------------------- This was at halftime on October 7th, the Wildcats held Barkley to -1 yards. But look what he was able to finish with, 75 yards and 2 TDs! Let me see if I can find some video for you guys... here we go. here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Now 11 page Barkley at #1 topic may need a train to pull it till April Poe Aboard!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 You have to give it to PoG - when dude goes crazy, he goes batshit crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 minute ago, D Bone said: You have to give it to PoG - when dude goes crazy, he goes batshit crazy. He does go full "smearing sh-it in his hair" crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, PoeticG said: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/07/northwestern-tying-down-saquon-barkley-but-penn-state-pitching-shutout/ Northwestern tying down Saquon Barkley, but Penn State pitching shutout By Kevin McGuireOct 7, 2017, 1:29 PM EST Penn State running back Saquon Barkley arrived in Evanston as the supposed Heisman Trophy favorite. Right now he’s looking to leave town just with some positive rushing yardage. Northwestern has held Barkley to negative rushing yardage (-1) so far, but Penn State has managed to take a 10-0 lead on the Nittany Lions. Northwestern failed to take advantage of a fourth down conversion on their offensive opportunity. After completing a 4th and 8 from the Penn State 34-yard line to the Penn State 10-yard line, the Wildcats immediately started moving the wrong way thanks to a holding penalty and a sack by Curtis Cothran to move the ball back to the Penn State 28-yard line. Two plays later, Clayton Thorson’s desperation ball was picked off by Amani Oruwariye. The Wildcats turned the ball over on a Thorson fumble on their next offensive possession, which also crossed midfield. Barkley has carried the football eight times and has been stuffed every time. He enters halftime with -1 rushing yards and just seven all-purpose yards with one eight-yard catch.Can Northwestern manage to dial in on Barkley like this for another two quarters? If they do, then the Northwestern offense has to start finding a way to get some point son the board and avoid letting other offensive options from hurting them when Penn State has the ball. Penn State has tended to make adjustments and play well in the second half over the last year. The only touchdown of the half came on a pass from Penn State’s starting quarterback, Trace McSorley, to Penn State’s backup quarterback, Tommy Stevens. ----------------------------------------- This was at halftime on October 7th, the Wildcats held Barkley to -1 yards. But look what he was able to finish with, 75 yards and 2 TDs! Let me see if I can find some video for you guys... here we go. here You're making our (or maybe just my) points for us. -1 yards in the first half. You think a run-based NFL attack can sustain that? We'd be down 17-0 and then your 76 yards in the second half will mean bubcus. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, PoeticG said: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/07/northwestern-tying-down-saquon-barkley-but-penn-state-pitching-shutout/ Northwestern tying down Saquon Barkley, but Penn State pitching shutout By Kevin McGuireOct 7, 2017, 1:29 PM EST Penn State running back Saquon Barkley arrived in Evanston as the supposed Heisman Trophy favorite. Right now he’s looking to leave town just with some positive rushing yardage. Northwestern has held Barkley to negative rushing yardage (-1) so far, but Penn State has managed to take a 10-0 lead on the Nittany Lions. Northwestern failed to take advantage of a fourth down conversion on their offensive opportunity. After completing a 4th and 8 from the Penn State 34-yard line to the Penn State 10-yard line, the Wildcats immediately started moving the wrong way thanks to a holding penalty and a sack by Curtis Cothran to move the ball back to the Penn State 28-yard line. Two plays later, Clayton Thorson’s desperation ball was picked off by Amani Oruwariye. The Wildcats turned the ball over on a Thorson fumble on their next offensive possession, which also crossed midfield. Barkley has carried the football eight times and has been stuffed every time. He enters halftime with -1 rushing yards and just seven all-purpose yards with one eight-yard catch.Can Northwestern manage to dial in on Barkley like this for another two quarters? If they do, then the Northwestern offense has to start finding a way to get some point son the board and avoid letting other offensive options from hurting them when Penn State has the ball. Penn State has tended to make adjustments and play well in the second half over the last year. The only touchdown of the half came on a pass from Penn State’s starting quarterback, Trace McSorley, to Penn State’s backup quarterback, Tommy Stevens. ----------------------------------------- This was at halftime on October 7th, the Wildcats held Barkley to -1 yards. But look what he was able to finish with, 75 yards and 2 TDs! Let me see if I can find some video for you guys... here we go. here Ok, I understand now, you want an unproven back over a versatile pro bowler, CHECK. And this unproven guy was held in check to what would amount to less than practice squad defense, as there surely aren't many or possibly any NW defenders to be drafted. CHECK. I dont believe anyone here is saying the young man will not be good. But fact is, nobody knows, and you are using different ways to talk high about him to say he is a generational player that can't be proven anytime soon. Crowd, breaking big runs, heart, stats dont define him, etc. You notice how a lot of players break off big plays in college, not nearly as many in the NFL. Why? Because NFL is the best players from each college. CHECK MATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 The fact that the defense was IN the backfield before Barkley even got the ball wasn't obvious? Blocking from the Oline plays a huge factor in a RBs #'s... also, a defense stacking the box and keying on swarming Saquon nearly every play should tell you how scared they were of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Actually, many of the plays were he takes a loss in simply the QB running an option look, looking to throw and Barkley staying back to watch his back. If the QB doesn't see what he likes and the defense is coming and there is nowhere to go, he just hands it to Barkley and hopes he can make something happen. He's done some incredible things, come on, a little credit. The guy has incredible talent with the ball in his hands. Ran a laser timed 4.33 40 and is the Strongest player at their school. Have you even seen his workout videos? No... alright give me some time and I'll drum some up. Got a meeting with a patent attorney in Cleveland in the morning, I should already be asleep lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, PoeticG said: Actually, many of the plays were he takes a loss in simply the QB running an option look, looking to throw and Barkley staying back to watch his back. If the QB doesn't see what he likes and the defense is coming and there is nowhere to go, he just hands it to Barkley and hopes he can make something happen. He's done some incredible things, come on, a little credit. The guy has incredible talent with the ball in his hands. Ran a laser timed 4.33 40 and is the Strongest player at their school. Have you even seen his workout videos? No... alright give me some time and I'll drum some up. Got a meeting with a patent attorney in Cleveland in the morning, I should already be asleep lol When you going to figure out highlight videos mean nothing without the concurrent lowlight videos Po? Teams will do the exact same thing to Barkley in the pros- without the missing ingredient- a great QB. Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders combined have less championships than Tom Brady- or Joe Montana. That's the meal ticket to the top- so wise up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 It’s different for those of us who don’t see Hogan as the QBOTF. Regardless of how good a running back is, unless he’s also passing the ball he can’t take presidence over the top QB in a class like this. If the Browns want Barkley, they can wait until 4th overall. If he gets picked before that, oh well, at least the most important position is taken care of. Historically speaking, odds are good that another rookie back will have similar or better numbers than Saquon anyway. Leonard Fournette + Christian mccaffrey = 2428 yards from scrimmage, 17 total TDs and 4 fumbles. Alvin Kamara + Kareem Hunt = 3336 yards from scrimmage, 24 total touchdowns and 2 fumbles. Third round RBs blowing the first round guys out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 4 hours ago, PoeticG said: Actually, many of the plays were he takes a loss in simply the QB running an option look, looking to throw and Barkley staying back to watch his back. If the QB doesn't see what he likes and the defense is coming and there is nowhere to go, he just hands it to Barkley and hopes he can make something happen. He's done some incredible things, come on, a little credit. The guy has incredible talent with the ball in his hands. Ran a laser timed 4.33 40 and is the Strongest player at their school. Have you even seen his workout videos? No... alright give me some time and I'll drum some up. Got a meeting with a patent attorney in Cleveland in the morning, I should already be asleep lol You are telling us that Penn State runs option plays where the options are: 1. Scan the defense in an attempt to pass the ball... 2. If the QB doesn't like what he sees, instead of tucking the ball and running it himself, or throwing the ball away, the QB should hand the ball off to Barkley to lose yards. I'd pay money to see you talk to this "patent attorney in Cleveland". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 hours ago, hoorta said: When you going to figure out highlight videos mean nothing without the concurrent lowlight videos Po? Teams will do the exact same thing to Barkley in the pros- without the missing ingredient- a great QB. Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders combined have less championships than Tom Brady- or Joe Montana. That's the meal ticket to the top- so wise up. GREAT point Larry! That said, you chose 2 QBs that didn't even get drafted until the end of round 3 and in round 6. How about this one? The Dallas Cowboys drafted Troy Aikman 1st overall in 1989. Later that year, they traded RB Herschel Walker to Minnesota for a bunch of picks and players they could surround Aikman with. One of them led to Dallas trading up to draft Emmitt Smith at #17 overall in 1990. Doesn't this remind us there's ALWAYS good RBs after the 1st overall and/or 4th overall pick? There's not always going to be a Troy Aikman on your door step at #4 though (especially if 2 QBs are drafted at #2 and #3 overall). Our FO has been overthinking the crap out of the QB position. Get our #1 QB with the 1st overall pick. Once we do that to the supply for the demand, there's probably going to be a run on the QB position at #2 and #3 anyway. Guess who that puts on our door step at #4? Barkley. We can either buy the hype and draft him or Herschel Walker his asssss in a trade-down for more picks. Me and Royce have brought up where Kamara and Hunt were drafted last year. And even though UGA was once most known for Herschel Walker - Terrell Davis was a 6th round RB that had an Hall of Fame NFL career. Once he arrived in Denver, Elway stopped losing Superbowls. THIS YEAR, UGA sends Nick Chubb and Sony Michel to the NFL draft. In split duty last year, Michel had 156 carries for 1227 yds at 7.9 ypc and 16 TDs while Nick Chubb 223 carries for 1345 yds at 6.0 ypc and 15 TDs. Both guys also went over 1000 yards rushing at least 1 more time in their SEC career. The draft NEVER runs out of studs at RB after pick #1 or pick #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 2:53 AM, PoeticG said: 2017 SPLITS ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD Season 217 1271 5.9 92 18 54 632 11.7 85 3 Home 104 664 6.4 80 10 25 431 17.2 85 3 September 86 574 6.7 80 4 27 386 14.3 85 2 Complete Splits » CAREER STATS RUSHING RECEIVING SEASON ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD 2017 217 1271 5.9 92 18 54 632 11.7 85 3 2016 272 1496 5.5 81 18 28 402 14.4 44 4 2015 182 1076 5.9 56 7 20 161 8.1 32 1 BARKLEY GOD BLESS YA! You are Wunphunmofo. Before you officially replace Cupid - we interrupt this Hallmark moment to remind you that both Sony Michel and Nick Chubb had better ypc than Barkley in 2017. Why the urgency to leapfrog QB at #1 overall? You don't want to play spin the bottle when there's too many Roseann Barrs in the circle. Get our QB first, which should trigger a run on QBs at #2 and #3, that will leave us any pick of the litter we want at other positions/BPA at #4 overall. As I already wrote, Sony Michel had 156 carries for 1227 yds at 7.9 ypc and 16 TDs while Nick Chubb 223 carries for 1345 yds at 6.0 ypc and 15 TDs. Not bad for split duty, eh? The thing that worries me about Barkley is he had his hibernation games against Ohio State, Rutgers and Missedagain State. Trent Richardson was built just like him so we bought the hype to the wide-spread applause of network draft analysts after trading up from #4 or #3 to pick him. In the NFL, he looked like a raccoon crossing the road at night time. He had no vision, which rendered all that speed and power useless. RB is a position that usually stocks drafts well. Over the years we've seen RD 6 gems like Denver's Terrell Davis and Atlanta's Jamal Anderson; a RD 5 kid like Chicago's Jordan Howard; last year's round 3 guys NO's Alvin Kamara and KC's Kareem Hunt; previous RD 2 guys like Buffalo's Thurman Thomas, Pitts' LeVeon Bell and Cleveland's Greg Pruitt (depicted in my avatar). Before the draft got shortened, we landed Earnest Byner in round 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 In "John (Dorsey) I Trust", so we'll just see who he & his staff choose. BTW folks, I keep seeing YPC...what about blocking & receiving? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Base picking Barkley strictly on talent. Barring injury, his size, speed and skills are going to dominate. He seems like a competitor without issues. The O-Line is already in place. The right rookie QB next to Barkley could turn this team around real quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: You are telling us that Penn State runs option plays where the options are: 1. Scan the defense in an attempt to pass the ball... 2. If the QB doesn't like what he sees, instead of tucking the ball and running it himself, or throwing the ball away, the QB should hand the ball off to Barkley to lose yards. I'd pay money to see you talk to this "patent attorney in Cleveland". Dutch, you take all of the fun out of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 9 hours ago, hoorta said: When you going to figure out highlight videos mean nothing without the concurrent lowlight videos Po? Teams will do the exact same thing to Barkley in the pros- without the missing ingredient- a great QB. Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders combined have less championships than Tom Brady- or Joe Montana. That's the meal ticket to the top- so wise up. Franco Harris has more titles than JB, Payton, or Sanders combined. And though he is a Hall of Famer....NO one who ever saw them play would equate Franco with the other three you mention. (and....oh...yea...he was another Penn St. RB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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