Tour2ma Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 And one more sim for you QB haters as I was playing Iggles GM... 14. Cleveland Browns - 21049 Round 1 Pick 1 (1) Browns: Barkley, Saquon (RB) Penn State Round 1 Pick 2 (2) Giants: Darnold, Sam (QB) Southern California Round 1 Pick 3 (3) Jets: Rosen, Josh (QB) UCLA Round 1 Pick 4 (4) Browns: Chubb, Bradley (DE) North Carolina State Round 1 Pick 17 (17) (LAC) Browns: Mayfield, Baker (QB) Oklahoma Round 2 Pick 32 (64) Browns: Davis, Carlton (CB) Auburn Round 4 Pick 14 (114) Browns: Brown, Andrew (DT) Virginia Round 5 Pick 1 (138) (G.B.) Browns: Igwebuike, Godwin (FS) Northwestern Round 7 Pick 1 (219) Browns: Neal, Siran (SS) Jacksonville State Spent some capital, but moved back into 1st to tab Mayfield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Interesting picks on that first one Tour. A few questions. Was Sony Michel still available when you took Johnson? What kind of grade did Johnson get? Same question on Marcus Allen. What grade? I'm just not all that hot on him in the second round over other safeties so just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Interesting picks on that first one Tour. A few questions. Was Sony Michel still available when you took Johnson? What kind of grade did Johnson get? Same question on Marcus Allen. What grade? I'm just not all that hot on him in the second round over other safeties so just curious. I wasn't clear, but both the above were picked by the sim while I was playing as one of my two teams in the Browns Board Draft. I have drafted both before tho in the 2nd round. Near the top of it Kerryon gets an A or A- and mid-round Allen gets an A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Oh god only 36 more days of mock drafts. But it will be fun, we'll get by, the Indians will have almost a month in on the 2018 regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 ROUNDER http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000922149/article/fiveround-mock-draft-buffalo-bills-trade-up-for-baker-mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 One more FirstPick sim generated as I was checking out the Texans' needs... 14. Cleveland Browns - 20941 <--- you'd think the sim would do better than we can do. Round 1 Pick 1 (1) Browns: Rosen, Josh (QB) UCLARound 1 Pick 4 (4) Browns: Chubb, Bradley (DE) North Carolina StateRound 2 Pick 1 (33) Browns: Guice, Derrius (RB) LSURound 2 Pick 3 (35) Browns: Hughes, Mike (CB) Central FloridaRound 2 Pick 32 (64) Browns: Reid, Justin (FS) StanfordRound 4 Pick 17 (117) (DET) Browns: Settle, Tim (DT) Virginia TechRound 4 Pick 19 (119) (LAC) Browns: Leonard, Darius (OLB/ILB) South Carolina StateRound 6 Pick 44 (218) (MINN) Browns: Webb, Damon (SS) Ohio State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Me playing Denver the Browns take #1 Barkley #7 Josh Allen (I took Darnold for Denver @ #5) 2-1 Arden Key DE/OLB LSU (computer does not remember Mingo apparently) 2-3 Carlton Davis CB Auburn 3-5 Trenton Thompson DT Georgia (and Sony Michel went on the next pick to S.F.) 3-13 Scott Quessenberry C UCLA (And Nick Chubb 3 picks later to the Jets (damn stupid computer) 3-22 Kylie Fitts DE/OLB Utah 7-1 Auggie Sanchez ILB S. Fla. In the meantime how the hell did this computer give me an A- overall for Denver when not one of my picks was that low? I had 7 "A+" picks and 3 "A" picks and addressed all identified needs. Something wrong with this program. Your score is: 22326 (GRADE: A-)Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 5: Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A+) Round 2 Pick 8: Price, Billy, C/OG, Ohio State (A) Round 3 Pick 7: Averett, Anthony, CB, Alabama (A) Round 3 Pick 35: Settle, Tim, DT, Virginia Tech (A+) Round 4 Pick 6: Smith, Braden, OG, Auburn (A+) Round 4 Pick 9: Dickson, Michael, P, Texas (A+) Round 5 Pick 5: Avery, Genard, ILB, Memphis (A+) Round 5 Pick 23: Richardson, Will, OT, North Carolina State (A) Round 5 Pick 26: Quinn, Trey, WR, Southern Methodist (A+) Round 6 Pick 8: Apke, Troy, SS, Penn State (A+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 13 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: 2-3 Carlton Davis CB Auburn In the meantime how the hell did this computer give me an A- overall for Denver when not one of my picks was that low? I had 7 "A+" picks and 3 "A" picks and addressed all identified needs. Something wrong with this program. Your score is: 22326 (GRADE: A-)Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 5: Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A+) Round 2 Pick 8: Price, Billy, C/OG, Ohio State (A) Round 3 Pick 7: Averett, Anthony, CB, Alabama (A) Round 3 Pick 35: Settle, Tim, DT, Virginia Tech (A+) Round 4 Pick 6: Smith, Braden, OG, Auburn (A+) Round 4 Pick 9: Dickson, Michael, P, Texas (A+) Round 5 Pick 5: Avery, Genard, ILB, Memphis (A+) Round 5 Pick 23: Richardson, Will, OT, North Carolina State (A) Round 5 Pick 26: Quinn, Trey, WR, Southern Methodist (A+) Round 6 Pick 8: Apke, Troy, SS, Penn State (A+) I don't get this program either ag. I think the bonus is filling needs but i don't agree totally with their needs..Seems if, the guy is off the board next time around they give you the A +plus+. I got your same score, with no trades with Carlton Davis being my 2.3.. and only B+..went Darnold/Chubb/Guice/C.Davis/OT Rankins/M.Gallup,P.Ford,D.Flowers(if Haley wants a FB?we need one,imo) than P JK Scott.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Buffalo trades #12, #22 and #53 picks to Cleveland for #4 ROUND 1 #1 Cleveland — Sam Darnold (QB, USC) #2 NY Giants — Saquon Barkley (RB, Penn State) #3 NY Jets (via Ind) — Josh Allen (QB, Wyoming) #4 Buffalo (via Cle, Hou) — Josh Rosen (QB, UCLA) #5 Denver — Quenton Nelson (G, Notre Dame) #6 Indianapolis (via NYJ) — Bradley Chubb (EDGE, NC State) #7 Tampa Bay — Vita Vea (DT, Washington) #8 Chicago — Denzel Ward (CB, Ohio State) #9 Miami (via SF) — Baker Mayfield (QB, Oklahoma) #10 Oakland — Tremaine Edmunds (LB, Virginia Tech) #11 San Fran (via Mia) — Minkah Fitzpatrick (S, Alabama)#12 Cleveland (via Buf, Cin) — Mike McGlinchey (T, Notre Dame) #13 Washington — Leighton Vander Esch (LB, Boise State) #14 Green Bay — Marcus Davenport (DE, UTSA) #15 Arizona — Lamar Jackson (QB, Louisville) #16 Baltimore — Derwin James (S, Florida State) #17 LA Chargers — Roquan Smith (LB, Georgia) #18 New England (via Sea) — Kolton Miller (T, UCLA) #19 Dallas — Rashaan Evans (LB, Alabama) #20 Detroit — Da’Ron Payne (DT, Alabama) #21 Cincinnati (via Buf) — James Daniels (C, Iowa)#22 Cleveland (via Buf, KC) — Maurice Hurst (DT, Michigan) #23 LA Rams — Harold Landry (DE, Boston College) #24 Carolina — Rasheem Green (DE, USC) #25 Tennessee — Taven Bryan (DE, Florida) #26 Atlanta — Calvin Ridley (WR, Alabama) #27 New Orleans — Justin Reid (S, Stanford) #28 Pittsburgh — Jessie Bates III (S, Wake Forest) #29 Jacksonville — Tim Settle (DT, Virginia Tech) #30 Minnesota — Isaiah Wynn (G, Georgia) #31 Seattle (via NE) — Ronald Jones II (RB, USC) #32 Indianapolis (via Phi) — Austin Corbett (G, Nevada) ROUND 2 #33 Cleveland — Jaire Alexander (CB, Louisville) #34 NY Giants — Will Hernandez (G, UTEP)#35 Cleveland — Sony Michel (RB, Georgia) #36 Philadelphia (via Ind) — Malik Jefferson (LB, Texas) #37 Indianapolis — Kerryon Johnson (RB, Auburn) #38 Tampa Bay — Derrius Guice (RB, LSU) #39 Chicago — Connor Williams (T, Texas) #40 Denver — Nick Chubb (RB, Georgia) #41 Oakland — Ronnie Harrison (S, Alabama) #42 Miami — Billy Price (C, Ohio State) #43 New England (via SF) — Mike Hughes (CB, UCF) #44 Washington — Royce Freeman (RB, Oregon) #45 Green Bay — Courtland Sutton (WR, SMU) #46 Cincinnati — Hayden Hurst (TE, South Carolina) #47 Arizona — Tyrell Crosby (T, Oregon) #48 LA Chargers — Brian O’Neill (T, Pittsburgh) #49 Indianapolis — D.J. Moore (WR, Maryland) #50 Dallas — Carlton Davis (CB, Auburn) #51 Detroit — Frank Ragnow (C, Arkansas) #52 Baltimore — B.J. Hill (DT, NC State)#53 Cleveland (via Buf) — Sam Hubbard (DE, Ohio State) #54 Kansas City — Joshua Jackson (CB, Iowa) #55 Carolina — Mike Gesicki (TE, Penn State) #56 Buffalo (via LAR) — Harrison Phillips (DT, Stanford) #57 Tennessee — Lorenzo Carter (EDGE, Georgia) #58 Atlanta — Andrew Brown (DT, Virginia) #59 San Francisco (via NOR) — Braden Smith (G, Auburn) #60 Pittsburgh — James Washington (WR, Oklahoma State) #61 Jacksonville — D.J. Chark (WR, LSU) #62 Minnesota — Geron Christian (T, Louisville) #63 Seattle (via NE) — Josh Sweat (DE, Florida State)#64 Cleveland (via Phi) — Donte Jackson (CB, LSU) The Trades Buffalo trades #12, #22 and #53 picks to Cleveland for #4 The Bills are in a situation now where their trade partners are quite limited. If they want to move up for a quarterback — and they clearly do — they’ll have to pay a steep price. Miami trades #11 and #73 to San Francisco for #9 Seeing an opportunity to jump up two spots and secure a long term solution at quarterback, the Dolphins pull the trigger with Arizona, Baltimore and Los Angeles lurking. New England trades #31 and #63 to Seattle for #18 The Patriots use their extra second round pick to jump into the top-20 to secure a replacement for Nate Solder. The Seahawks get an extra pick in the top-60. Indianapolis trades #36 and #140 to Philadelphia for #32 The Colts make a small jump back into round one to secure the underrated Austin Corbett. http://seahawksdraftblog.com/updated-mock-draft-two-rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 OK WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:38 PM, Tour2ma said: One more FirstPick sim generated as I was checking out the Texans' needs... 14. Cleveland Browns - 20941 <--- you'd think the sim would do better than we can do. Round 1 Pick 1 (1) Browns: Rosen, Josh (QB) UCLARound 1 Pick 4 (4) Browns: Chubb, Bradley (DE) North Carolina StateRound 2 Pick 1 (33) Browns: Guice, Derrius (RB) LSURound 2 Pick 3 (35) Browns: Hughes, Mike (CB) Central FloridaRound 2 Pick 32 (64) Browns: Reid, Justin (FS) StanfordRound 4 Pick 17 (117) (DET) Browns: Settle, Tim (DT) Virginia TechRound 4 Pick 19 (119) (LAC) Browns: Leonard, Darius (OLB/ILB) South Carolina StateRound 6 Pick 44 (218) (MINN) Browns: Webb, Damon (SS) Ohio State Love that draft, but no way Tim Settle will be available in the 4th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Consensus https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/1/30/16942234/2018-nfl-mock-draft-mathbomb-consensus-mock-2-0 WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Consensus https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/1/30/16942234/2018-nfl-mock-draft-mathbomb-consensus-mock-2-0 lol... Mathbomb.... love the name. Going thru the entire round the data scatter becomes very apparent, e.g., Denzel Ward falling to 23? Minkah not in Round One? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Tour2ma said: lol... Mathbomb.... love the name. Going thru the entire round the data scatter becomes very apparent, e.g., Denzel Ward falling to 23? Minkah not in Round One? From what I could gather there are concerns about Ward's size, not many CB's in the league at his weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 Of course the problem with that draft is it is out of date with the FA trades and acquisitions. Jets are now in #3 for the QB so the whole draft is screwed up for this one. The big question mark that may not be answered until draft night is what will the NYG do with #2. Nelson, QB, Chubb?? Trade out to the Broncos? Who knows. But whatever they do @ #2 changes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/03/24/2018-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-first-round-mock/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 DawgPundDaily staff did their predictions for Round 1: https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/03/24/cleveland-browns-staff-predictions-first-fourth-picks/ Here's a summary: Martin McConnell: Darnold/ Ward Randy Gurzi: Mayfield/ Barkley Shane Carter: Darnold/ Ward Mike Lukas: Mayfield/ Fitzpatrick Joel Cade: Rosen/ (trade w/Bills) - #12 James/ #22 Rashaan Evans Chris Markoch: Darnold/ Barkley (but multiple other "options" for both picks?) Ben Thomas: Darnold/ Barkley Bucky Daws: Darnold/ Barkley Matt McFatridge: Chubb/ Barkley Matt Stevenson: Rosen/ Chubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 8 hours ago, LondonBrown said: From what I could gather there are concerns about Ward's size, not many CB's in the league at his weight? Same thing was said about his former teammate Marshon Lattimore last draft. He's basically a Lattimore clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 6:42 PM, Mudfly said: Did they have any??? So what you been up to lately Mud? You've been missed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 4:13 AM, JimboJones said: Buffalo trades #12, #22 and #53 picks to Cleveland for #4 ROUND 1 #1 Cleveland — Sam Darnold (QB, USC) #2 NY Giants — Saquon Barkley (RB, Penn State) #3 NY Jets (via Ind) — Josh Allen (QB, Wyoming) #4 Buffalo (via Cle, Hou) — Josh Rosen (QB, UCLA) #5 Denver — Quenton Nelson (G, Notre Dame) #6 Indianapolis (via NYJ) — Bradley Chubb (EDGE, NC State) #7 Tampa Bay — Vita Vea (DT, Washington) #8 Chicago — Denzel Ward (CB, Ohio State) #9 Miami (via SF) — Baker Mayfield (QB, Oklahoma) #10 Oakland — Tremaine Edmunds (LB, Virginia Tech) #11 San Fran (via Mia) — Minkah Fitzpatrick (S, Alabama)#12 Cleveland (via Buf, Cin) — Mike McGlinchey (T, Notre Dame) #13 Washington — Leighton Vander Esch (LB, Boise State) #14 Green Bay — Marcus Davenport (DE, UTSA) #15 Arizona — Lamar Jackson (QB, Louisville) #16 Baltimore — Derwin James (S, Florida State) #17 LA Chargers — Roquan Smith (LB, Georgia) #18 New England (via Sea) — Kolton Miller (T, UCLA) #19 Dallas — Rashaan Evans (LB, Alabama) #20 Detroit — Da’Ron Payne (DT, Alabama) #21 Cincinnati (via Buf) — James Daniels (C, Iowa)#22 Cleveland (via Buf, KC) — Maurice Hurst (DT, Michigan) #23 LA Rams — Harold Landry (DE, Boston College) #24 Carolina — Rasheem Green (DE, USC) #25 Tennessee — Taven Bryan (DE, Florida) #26 Atlanta — Calvin Ridley (WR, Alabama) #27 New Orleans — Justin Reid (S, Stanford) #28 Pittsburgh — Jessie Bates III (S, Wake Forest) #29 Jacksonville — Tim Settle (DT, Virginia Tech) #30 Minnesota — Isaiah Wynn (G, Georgia) #31 Seattle (via NE) — Ronald Jones II (RB, USC) #32 Indianapolis (via Phi) — Austin Corbett (G, Nevada) ROUND 2 #33 Cleveland — Jaire Alexander (CB, Louisville) #34 NY Giants — Will Hernandez (G, UTEP)#35 Cleveland — Sony Michel (RB, Georgia) #36 Philadelphia (via Ind) — Malik Jefferson (LB, Texas) #37 Indianapolis — Kerryon Johnson (RB, Auburn) #38 Tampa Bay — Derrius Guice (RB, LSU) #39 Chicago — Connor Williams (T, Texas) #40 Denver — Nick Chubb (RB, Georgia) #41 Oakland — Ronnie Harrison (S, Alabama) #42 Miami — Billy Price (C, Ohio State) #43 New England (via SF) — Mike Hughes (CB, UCF) #44 Washington — Royce Freeman (RB, Oregon) #45 Green Bay — Courtland Sutton (WR, SMU) #46 Cincinnati — Hayden Hurst (TE, South Carolina) #47 Arizona — Tyrell Crosby (T, Oregon) #48 LA Chargers — Brian O’Neill (T, Pittsburgh) #49 Indianapolis — D.J. Moore (WR, Maryland) #50 Dallas — Carlton Davis (CB, Auburn) #51 Detroit — Frank Ragnow (C, Arkansas) #52 Baltimore — B.J. Hill (DT, NC State)#53 Cleveland (via Buf) — Sam Hubbard (DE, Ohio State) #54 Kansas City — Joshua Jackson (CB, Iowa) #55 Carolina — Mike Gesicki (TE, Penn State) #56 Buffalo (via LAR) — Harrison Phillips (DT, Stanford) #57 Tennessee — Lorenzo Carter (EDGE, Georgia) #58 Atlanta — Andrew Brown (DT, Virginia) #59 San Francisco (via NOR) — Braden Smith (G, Auburn) #60 Pittsburgh — James Washington (WR, Oklahoma State) #61 Jacksonville — D.J. Chark (WR, LSU) #62 Minnesota — Geron Christian (T, Louisville) #63 Seattle (via NE) — Josh Sweat (DE, Florida State)#64 Cleveland (via Phi) — Donte Jackson (CB, LSU) I'd love this scenario. We basically trade Bradley Chubb for McGlinchey, Hurst and Hubbard, though not sure I'd go with those exact guys with some of the other names on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, JimboJones said: I'd love this scenario. We basically trade Bradley Chubb for McGlinchey, Hurst and Hubbard, though not sure I'd go with those exact guys with some of the other names on the board. Especially McGlinchey... still too high for him. And the fumble frequency info has put me off the Michel wagon. Agree on Ward... 5'11 may not measure up, but a 39" vert makes up for it. Had the BUF trade-down scenario pop up in a sim this AM. It was far from my highest score, but overall it is my favorite draft.. Your score is: 21127 (GRADE: A-) Round 1 Pick 1: Rosen, Josh, QB, UCLA (A) Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF): James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A) Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State (A-) Round 2 Pick 1: Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B) Round 2 Pick 3: Rankin, Martinas, OT, Mississippi State (B-) Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF): Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B+) Round 2 Pick 32: Brown, Tony, CB, Alabama (A-) Round 4 Pick 14: Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+) Round 5 Pick 22: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A) Round 6 Pick 1: Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+) Round 7 Pick 1: Scott, JK, P, Alabama (A+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 22 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Especially McGlinchey... still too high for him. And the fumble frequency info has put me off the Michel wagon. Agree on Ward... 5'11 may not measure up, but a 39" vert makes up for it. Had the BUF trade-down scenario pop up in a sim this AM. It was far from my highest score, but overall it is my favorite draft.. Your score is: 21127 (GRADE: A-) Round 1 Pick 1: Rosen, Josh, QB, UCLA (A) Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF): James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A) Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State (A-) Round 2 Pick 1: Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B) Round 2 Pick 3: Rankin, Martinas, OT, Mississippi State (B-) Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF): Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B+) Round 2 Pick 32: Brown, Tony, CB, Alabama (A-) Round 4 Pick 14: Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+) Round 5 Pick 22: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A) Round 6 Pick 1: Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+) Round 7 Pick 1: Scott, JK, P, Alabama (A+) Not only the fumble rate with Michel, but his age too. He's over two years older than Guice and Jones. Here's the carry to fumble ratio for some of the top RB's: https://www.footballcouchscout.com/copy-of-qb Ronald Jones, EXCEPTIONAL ball security, 207:1 carry/fumble ratio. Saquon Barkley, VERY GOOD ball security, 193:1 carry/fumble ratio. Kerryon Johnson, VERY GOOD ball security, 191:1 carry/fumble ratio. Josh Adams, VERY GOOD ball security, 174:1 carry/fumble ratio. John Kelly, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 123:1 carry/fumble ratio. Royce Freeman, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 114:1 carry/fumble ratio. Rashaad Penny, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 106:1 carry/fumble ratio. Darius Guice, AVERAGE ball security, 100:1 carry/fumble ratio. Nick Chubb, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 98:1 carry/fumble ratio. Bo Scarbrough, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 96:1 carry/fumble ratio. Mark Walton, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 90:1 carry/fumble ratio. Nyheim Hines, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 87:1 carry/fumble ratio. Akrum Wadley, VERY POOR ball security, 67:1 carry/fumble ratio. Kalen Ballage, VERY POOR ball security, 66:1 carry/fumble ratio. Sony Michel, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, JimboJones said: Not only the fumble rate with Michael, but his age too. He's over two years older older than Guice and Jones. Here's the carry to fumble ratio for some of the top RB's: https://www.footballcouchscout.com/copy-of-qb Ronald Jones, EXCEPTIONAL ball security, 207:1 carry/fumble ratio. Saquon Barkley, VERY GOOD ball security, 193:1 carry/fumble ratio. Kerryon Johnson, VERY GOOD ball security, 191:1 carry/fumble ratio. Josh Adams, VERY GOOD ball security, 174:1 carry/fumble ratio. John Kelly, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 123:1 carry/fumble ratio. Royce Freeman, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 114:1 carry/fumble ratio. Rashaad Penny, ABOVE AVERAGE ball security, 106:1 carry/fumble ratio. Darius Guice, AVERAGE ball security, 100:1 carry/fumble ratio. Bo Scarbrough, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 96:1 carry/fumble ratio. Mark Walton, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 90:1 carry/fumble ratio. Nyheim Hines, BELOW AVERAGE ball security, 87:1 carry/fumble ratio. Akrum Wadley, VERY POOR ball security, 67:1 carry/fumble ratio. Kalen Ballage, VERY POOR ball security, 66:1 carry/fumble ratio. Nick Chubb, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio. Sony Michel, VERY BAD ball security, 54:1 carry/fumble ratio. I don't really know that Ronald Jones 207:1 ratio is that much more exceptional than Barkley's at 193:1... They are both exceptional, I would add Johnson's number as well. There isn't that much separation between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Had the BUF trade-down scenario pop up in a sim this AM. It was far from my highest score, but overall it is my favorite draft.. Your score is: 21127 (GRADE: A-) Round 1 Pick 1: Rosen, Josh, QB, UCLA (A) Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF): James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A) Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State (A-) Round 2 Pick 1: Chark, DJ, WR, LSU (B) Round 2 Pick 3: Rankin, Martinas, OT, Mississippi State (B-) Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF): Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B+) Round 2 Pick 32: Brown, Tony, CB, Alabama (A-) Round 4 Pick 14: Lewis, Tyquan, DE, Ohio State (A+) Round 5 Pick 22: Ford, Poona, DT, Texas (A) Round 6 Pick 1: Jackson, Justin, RB, Northwestern (A+) Round 7 Pick 1: Scott, JK, P, Alabama (A+) good looking draft haul. Not familar with Ragnow at G nor C but we did just resign Reiter at C(spotrac).Tony Brown is a good value pick as a late 2nd rounder.TB looked great in combine drills.Draft Tracker compares him to Johnson Bademosi. not with them on that, but a 6 footer at 198 that runs a 4.35 40's..I'd say G.Williams has a nickel package for T. Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, gumby73 said: good looking draft. Not familar with Ragnow at G nor C but we did just resign Reiter at C(spotrac).Tony Brown is a good value pick as a late 2nd rounder I could not resist Ragnow there... while thought of primarily as an inside guy, at 6'5 he actually can play OT as well. Plus I think he'd push Reiter very hard for the starting job. Pared with Rankin who can play OT or OG, the OL flexibility depth would be off the charts. Both of the BAMA corners, Averett as well as Brown, get a lot less respect than they deserve, IMO. While not elite, both measured well at the Combine, can cover and, since they played for Saban, you know they can tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 hours ago, PoeticG said: I don't really know that Ronald Jones 207:1 ratio is that much more exceptional than Barkley's at 193:1... They are both exceptional, I would add Johnson's number as well. There isn't that much separation between them. If you can think of a medium phrase to put between "exceptional" and "very good", I'll edit the post. Barkley just isn't on Jones' level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 My first time doing one of these. Was going to take a LT and C in the 2nd but chose to load up on Defense instead. Your score is: 23264 (GRADE: A+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 1: Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A) Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF): Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A) Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): Ward, Denzel, CB, Ohio State (A+) Round 2 Pick 1: Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+) Round 2 Pick 3: Green, Rasheem, DE, Southern California (B+) Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF): Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (A) Round 2 Pick 32: Jones II, Ronald, RB, Southern California (A) Round 4 Pick 14: Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A+) Round 5 Pick 22: Hill, Holton, CB, Texas (A+) Round 6 Pick 1: Richardson, Will, OT, North Carolina State (A+) Round 7 Pick 5 (MIA): Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech (A+) Round 7 Pick 13 (WASH): ValdesScantling, Marquez, WR, South Florida (A+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, JimboJones said: My first time doing one of these. Was going to take a LT and C in the 2nd but chose to load up on Defense instead. This doesn't seem very realistic though. Your score is: 23264 (GRADE: A+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 1: Darnold, Sam, QB, Southern California (A) Round 1 Pick 12 (BUF): Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A) Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): Ward, Denzel, CB, Ohio State (A+) Round 2 Pick 1: Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+) Round 2 Pick 3: Green, Rasheem, DE, Southern California (B+) Round 2 Pick 24 (BUF): Reid, Justin, FS, Stanford (A) Round 2 Pick 32: Jones II, Ronald, RB, Southern California (A) Round 4 Pick 14: Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A+) Round 5 Pick 22: Hill, Holton, CB, Texas (A+) Round 6 Pick 1: Richardson, Will, OT, North Carolina State (A+) Round 7 Pick 5 (MIA): Coutee, Keke, WR, Texas Tech (A+) Round 7 Pick 13 (WASH): ValdesScantling, Marquez, WR, South Florida (A+) If we draft Vita Vea high after trading Danny Shelton for a bag of footballs I want Dorsey fired immediately, don't even let him finish the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Were the footballs fully inflated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboJones Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Vita Vea is better in every aspect of football than Danny Shelton, so I wouldn't be confused if they picked him. Had a tough choice of Vita Vea or Derwin James at that pick, though. Funny thing is I didn't even realize Denzel Ward was still available until pick #22. Must've been half asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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