The Cysko Kid Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 39 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-super-bowl-ranking-nick-foles-top-10-landing-spots-for-next-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now. Probably not but I guess we have to see how everything plays out, and in that link: 1. Philadelphia Eagles Why it could happen: This is all about Wentz's recovery. He tore his ACL in December, roughly nine months before the start of the 2018 season. So, Wentz -- a quarterback who relies on his mobility behind the line of scrimmage -- might not be fully healthy in time for the regular season. Just because Adrian Peterson did it doesn't mean Wentz will be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broganreynik Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Tour2ma said: I think this was posted earlier in this thread, but it carries more meaning now.... Scot McCloughan on Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins: ‘I don’t see special’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/01/19/scot-mccloughan-on-redskins-quarterback-kirk-cousins-i-dont-see-special/?utm_term=.131704d49c8c That headline isn’t indicative of what McCloughan said at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Nobody saw "special" when Nick Foles walks into the room... but dude just won the Superbowl against Tom Shmucking Brady! Maybe QB isn't the end all be all that many on this board want to try and make it out to be. Wentz is sooo good. The Eagles don't win the Superbowl if Wentz doesn't get injured, period. It's all about BELIEF and working together as one, trusting each other and fighting for your brothers. There is no reason that next season it can't be us. "It's our turn" is the mentality it is going to take to win. Saying we NEED 2 or 3 more years of being competitive and slow progress is NEVER GOING TO WORK- EVER. Mentality has to be "NOW OR NEVER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Wentz=overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now. Um, sure. Good enough to win a SB on a great team. I'll digress and kick Cal in the a$$ right now- who needs a rocket arm QB to win a SB? (like Allen?) Foles and Brady were tossing up accurate ducks plenty of times. 47 minutes ago, PoeticG said: Nobody saw "special" when Nick Foles walks into the room... but dude just won the Superbowl against Tom Shmucking Brady! Maybe QB isn't the end all be all that many on this board want to try and make it out to be. Wentz is sooo good. The Eagles don't win the Superbowl if Wentz doesn't get injured, period. It's all about BELIEF and working together as one, trusting each other and fighting for your brothers. There is no reason that next season it can't be us. "It's our turn" is the mentality it is going to take to win. Saying we NEED 2 or 3 more years of being competitive and slow progress is NEVER GOING TO WORK- EVER. Mentality has to be "NOW OR NEVER" You got some of that stuff you're smoking? 0-16 to the SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, wargograw said: Wentz=overrated. Foles= overrated. great backup on a great team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 6 hours ago, hoorta said: Foles= overrated. great backup on a great team. Who must have been very lucky to throw so many really great passes throughout this year's playoffs + the SB. If a player plays great that many times in a row, then you have to give it up for him. It wasn't the team yesterday. The defense collapsed nearly every possession until the end. He did what great QBs do, willed them into score after score after score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/4/2018 at 10:32 AM, Tour2ma said: Well... appears we are not expecting to sign Cousins... Scot McCloughan to work for Browns during 2018 draft The extreme makeover of the Cleveland Browns' scouting department continued Saturday when former Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan joined the organization as a personnel consultant to assist the team in this year's draft, according to league sources. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22316771/ex-washington-redskins-gm-scot-mccloughan-work-cleveland-browns-draft And, if that's not enough - Washington is now considering franchise tagging Cousins a 3rd time per a scroll I saw on ESPN early this morning. And why? They want exchange value on him from the determined team that will want him. Stay tuned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Who must have been very lucky to throw so many really great passes throughout this year's playoffs + the SB. If a player plays great that many times in a row, then you have to give it up for him. It wasn't the team yesterday. The defense collapsed nearly every possession until the end. He did what great QBs do, willed them into score after score after score. Foles was absolutely marvelous last night. Always seemed in control, and really appeared to be beyond comfortable in that offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said: Foles was absolutely marvelous last night. Always seemed in control, and really appeared to be beyond comfortable in that offense. Pederson is an Andy Reid disciple (minus the crumbling under pressure) and Foles has played in that system before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Listening to the radio this morning on 92.3 They talked about Foles contract. It is a crazy good deal for any team if the Eagles decided to trade him. The Eagles control his contract through next season. Then he is free to opt out. However, if they trade him to another team he is locked in for 5 years at a very cheap rate. Watching some of those throws he pulled off last night, If I'm Doresy, I'm on the phone offering one of the 2nd rounders today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Pederson is an Andy Reid disciple (minus the crumbling under pressure) and Foles has played in that system before. Yep, really showed too! I was amazed at how calm and collected he was...during the effing Super Bowl. There was one pass to the intermediate-middle where Foles threaded the ball between 2 or 3 Patriots and delivered an absolute strike for a huge play. He always seemed to know where to go with the ball, and pressure hardly ever rattled him. Big shout out to the Eagles OL...they really shined and helped their QB. Just goes to show that QBs are somewhat reliant on the systems they excel in, and good coaches fit their players to their own strengths, rather than force the coach's ideas on them (in my opinion). I think what really impressed me the most was Foles' accuracy. So many passes weren't just good, they were freaking on the money. For those hopeful at possibly getting Foles to start for us, or at least be our "veteran QB", you can forget about it. Wentz has a long recovery ahead, and he'll miss all of OTA's, mini camp, and probably most/all of training camp. Eagles won't give up their backup, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 9 hours ago, hoorta said: Foles= overrated. great backup on a great team. This is just his breakout moment. Foles has been a pretty solid QB for a while. A franchise guy? Maybe not but the browns wouldn't be looking for a franchise QB in a veteran would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Back to the Cousins front: It was all over the scroll this morning that the Redskins ARE actually considering putting the Franchise Tag on Cousins once again....in order to trade him. They must feel there would be some demand for him even at the what? 34 million per year that he would make under the tag this year? I don't know what they would be asking in trade.....but I do NOT think that I would want the Browns to have any part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, The Gipper said: Back to the Cousins front: It was all over the scroll this morning that the Redskins ARE actually considering putting the Franchise Tag on Cousins once again....in order to trade him. They must feel there would be some demand for him even at the what? 34 million per year that he would make under the tag this year? I don't know what they would be asking in trade.....but I do NOT think that I would want the Browns to have any part of it. Gips, I mentioned that 6-7 posts up in this flow of discussion. That's turning into a War of the Roses-level divorce between Cousins and Washington's FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Flugel said: Gips, I mentioned that 6-7 posts up in this flow of discussion. That's turning into a War of the Roses-level divorce between Cousins and Washington's FO. So....who is going to turn out to be Richard III and who is going to be Henry Tudor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: This is just his breakout moment. Foles has been a pretty solid QB for a while. A franchise guy? Maybe not but the browns wouldn't be looking for a franchise QB in a veteran would they? Foles played a great game. But watching him and Brady- it goes to show you don't need a Josh Allen arm to play in or win a Super Bowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 15 hours ago, PoeticG said: Nobody saw "special" when Nick Foles walks into the room... but dude just won the Superbowl against Tom Shmucking Brady! Maybe QB isn't the end all be all that many on this board want to try and make it out to be. Wentz is sooo good. The Eagles don't win the Superbowl if Wentz doesn't get injured, period. It's all about BELIEF and working together as one, trusting each other and fighting for your brothers. There is no reason that next season it can't be us. "It's our turn" is the mentality it is going to take to win. Saying we NEED 2 or 3 more years of being competitive and slow progress is NEVER GOING TO WORK- EVER. Mentality has to be "NOW OR NEVER" So we should just face reality and start Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: So we should just face reality and start Hogan. Start Hogan, get Mayfield at #4 to back him up. Get Hogan some help, Saquon Barkley would help a lot, then get him another tall WR. Hogan is excellent at reading defense and throwing to where only the WR has a chance at the ball. He just needs time to develop some chemistry with his guys and with a RB like Barkley we could make the playoffs next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 48 minutes ago, PoeticG said: Start Hogan, get Mayfield at #4 to back him up. Get Hogan some help, Saquon Barkley would help a lot, then get him another tall WR. Hogan is excellent at reading defense and throwing to where only the WR has a chance at the ball. He just needs time to develop some chemistry with his guys and with a RB like Barkley we could make the playoffs next season. Why would the Browns use the 4th overall pick in the draft on Baker Mayfield when you've stated over and over that Kevin Hogan is a franchise QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Why would the Browns use the 4th overall pick in the draft on Baker Mayfield when you've stated over and over that Kevin Hogan is a franchise QB? You keep saying this, so I'll spell it out for you. A) I think that Kevin Hogan CAN be a franchise QB. The time to find out how good Hogan could be was last year, while Kizer lead us to a winless season. C) I happen to like Baker Mayfield he's the best out of all the QBs coming out this year. D) It is best to sit a young player while he catches up to the speed of the game. E) Is Baker ready to win now? If so then play him. I'll stand by what I said last year- Play the QB that gives you the best chance to win, play the best QB that you have on the roster. Last year Hogan was the best that we had. If we get Baker Mayfield, Hogan being the best may change. However, until he earns it and proves that he should be the starter, you do exactly what I said and start your best QB, that being Kevin Hogan. Actually, I think he may be a free agent so unless we resign him he's not even going to be here. F) So, like I said Dutch, draft Mayfield #4 and Barkley #1. Did I make that clear enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, PoeticG said: You keep saying this, so I'll spell it out for you. A) I think that Kevin Hogan CAN be a franchise QB. The time to find out how good Hogan could be was last year, while Kizer lead us to a winless season. C) I happen to like Baker Mayfield he's the best out of all the QBs coming out this year. D) It is best to sit a young player while he catches up to the speed of the game. E) Is Baker ready to win now? If so then play him. I'll stand by what I said last year- Play the QB that gives you the best chance to win, play the best QB that you have on the roster. Last year Hogan was the best that we had. If we get Baker Mayfield, Hogan being the best may change. However, until he earns it and proves that he should be the starter, you do exactly what I said and start your best QB, that being Kevin Hogan. Actually, I think he may be a free agent so unless we resign him he's not even going to be here. F) So, like I said Dutch, draft Mayfield #4 and Barkley #1. Did I make that clear enough for you? No, you said over and over that Kevin Hogan IS a franchise QB. Now you say he "can" be one, but you still want the Browns to draft a QB #4 overall. You wonder why no one takes you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: No, you said over and over that Kevin Hogan IS a franchise QB. Now you say he "can" be one, but you still want the Browns to draft a QB #4 overall. You wonder why no one takes you seriously. Laugh-a-trollable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, PoeticG said: The time to find out how good Hogan could be was last year, while Kizer lead us to a winless season. That time served us to find how good could be in our team Brady, Brees, Stafford... Dalton, McCarron, McCown... JFF, Quinn, a 70 year old retired QB on a wheelchair... Everyone shines comparing him to Kizer last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 12:07 AM, hoorta said: Foles= overrated. great backup on a great team. So he's "great" and overrated? What does that tell you about Wentz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: So he's "great" and overrated? What does that tell you about Wentz? I'll go Po on you- he's the greatest, most wonderfullest qb ever. Shoulda listed to me and drafted him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/7/2018 at 12:23 PM, Tour2ma said: So he's "great" and overrated? What does that tell you about Wentz? It tells you what I've said all along oh, if it team is firing on all cylinders any decent quarterback can win games. The old cliche about too much blame and too much credit. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 14 hours ago, Westside Steve said: It tells you what I've said all along oh, if it team is firing on all cylinders any decent quarterback can win games. The old cliche about too much blame and too much credit. WSS Still, for whatever reason, good QBs do help: Examples: without Garrapolo the 49ers win 1 game. With him they won 5 in a row. Without Aaron Rodgers the Packers are squadoosh. with him they are SB contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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