5_Golden_Rings Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 10:29 AM, TopDawg31 said: still more talent than our last 20 drafts. This is what's important. As a 49er fan, I see Jimmy Garoppolo, and yeah he looks good, but he has a mechanical flaw on deep passes and threw 5 INTs. But then I think, well, he isn't quite Tom Brady, but my God he is MILES better than what the 49ers have had since Jeff Garcia. That's how you have to look at it. Look at the Browns last two decades of drafts. The new GM is a DRASTIC upgrade, and will turn the tide for this franchise. Book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, 5_Golden_Rings said: This is what's important. As a 49er fan, I see Jimmy Garoppolo, and yeah he looks good, but he has a mechanical flaw on deep passes and threw 5 INTs. But then I think, well, he isn't quite Tom Brady, but my God he is MILES better than what the 49ers have had since Jeff Garcia. That's how you have to look at it. Look at the Browns last two decades of drafts. The new GM is a DRASTIC upgrade, and will turn the tide for this franchise. Book it. Does Four Calling Birds agree with your assessment? And, you know...all the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 15 hours ago, The Gipper said: Does Four Calling Birds agree with your assessment? And, you know...all the others? The partridge pooped all over that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5_Golden_Rings Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 1/18/2018 at 5:23 PM, The Gipper said: Does Four Calling Birds agree with your assessment? And, you know...all the others? Lol I just thought I'd point out that so far I am right. The Browns have turned a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, 5_Golden_Rings said: Lol I just thought I'd point out that so far I am right. The Browns have turned a corner. I’m glad I could entertain you with a two-year-old post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 1/8/2018 at 1:07 PM, Zombo said: They'll sign him or franchise him Z I never really liked to tag key players -but- you might not want to see them walk away either. Besides being a tagged QB isn't exactly minimum wage, offensive players 2019 numbers: Franchise Tags QB: $24.865 million..... almost Mayfield numbers RB: $11.214 million WR: $16.787 million TE: $10.387 million Transition Tags QB: $22.783 million RB: $9.099 million WR: $14.794 million TE: $8.815 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 I wanted this guy SO BADLY before he signed with San Francisco. I really thought he was an instant QB that you rarely get on the market and I would've traded lord knows what pick to get him. The accuracy, the quick release, and the ability to distribute the ball made him a lock for me. Will he end up being worth it? Time will tell, but his record is stupid amazing, I don't care WHO he's played. Lord man, how many times does that freaking play-action bootleg throw to the tight end work? Apparently a metric shit load. Speaking of bootleg, why don't we ever run that? Wasn't that bomb to Perriman off a bootleg last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: I wanted this guy SO BADLY before he signed with San Francisco. I really thought he was an instant QB that you rarely get on the market and I would've traded lord knows what pick to get him. The accuracy, the quick release, and the ability to distribute the ball made him a lock for me. Will he end up being worth it? Time will tell, but his record is stupid amazing, I don't care WHO he's played. Lord man, how many times does that freaking play-action bootleg throw to the tight end work? Apparently a metric shit load. Speaking of bootleg, why don't we ever run that? Wasn't that bomb to Perriman off a bootleg last year? Bootleg's are nice but 1 of the times Jimmy Garrapolo went outside the pocket at the beginning of 2018 - he ended up on IR. A lot of times, Waggle Passes utilize QB bootlegs which are set up from the running game. Teams use different terminologies but back in the late 80s-early 90s we set it up from the Buck series (sweep & trap) in the Delaware Wing-T. When you have an athletic line skilled at trapping and pulling, you can put some really good eye candy on film. When you don't, the X's and Uh-O's can expose your QB to some trauma. Back when Kyle Shanahan was here, he used the bootleg passes with Hoyer quite frequently. The reason for that is he had some success doing so especially early on when the Browns got off to a 7-4 start that nobody saw coming. The problem he eventually encountered was once enough teams got this on film, it wasn't that difficult to stop and Hoyer began to struggle. I remembered us being favored to beat Jax when they put on an absolute clinic on how to defend this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Flugel said: Bootleg's are nice but 1 of the times Jimmy Garrapolo went outside the pocket at the beginning of 2018 - he ended up on IR. A lot of times, Waggle Passes utilize QB bootlegs which are set up from the running game. Teams use different terminologies but back in the late 80s-early 90s we set it up from the Buck series (sweep & trap) in the Delaware Wing-T. When you have an athletic line skilled at trapping and pulling, you can put some really good eye candy on film. When you don't, the X's and Uh-O's can expose your QB to some trauma. Back when Kyle Shanahan was here, he used the bootleg passes with Hoyer quite frequently. The reason for that is he had some success doing so especially early on when the Browns got off to a 7-4 start that nobody saw coming. The problem he eventually encountered was once enough teams got this on film, it wasn't that difficult to stop and Hoyer began to struggle. I remembered us being favored to beat Jax when they put on an absolute clinic on how to defend this. This is a terrific post, Flugel. Thanks for the input. Fans need to be ready for the obnoxious wide open tight end play, and hopefully we see it enough to adjust and stop it. I read a stat that showed the tremendous disparity between Garoppolo throwing under pressure vs clean pocket and it was startling. Bottom line? We get pressure and we can win. We don't, they WILL march it down the field and score a bunch of points on us. It'd be nice if they self destructed like they did against the Steelers (and somehow won btw), but I wouldn't count on it. They got lucky but we're a team that will definitely beat you if you turn it over 4 or 5 times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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